JP Morgan boss Jamie Dimon says bitcoin ‘is a fraud’
Cryptocurrency ‘worse than tulip bulbs’ and useful only for drug dealers, murderers and rogue states banker tells conference
JP Morgan bank chief Jamie Dimon said he would fire traders who dealt in bitcoin for two reasons: “it is against our rules and they are stupid, and both are dangerous”. Photograph: Chris Helgren/Reuters
Speaking at a bank investor conference in New York, Mr Dimon said, “The currency isn’t going to work. You can’t have a business where people can invent a currency out of thin air and think that people who are buying it are really smart.”
Mr Dimon said that if any JP Morgan traders were trading the cryptocurrency, “I would fire them in a second, for two reasons: it is against our rules and they are stupid, and both are dangerous”.
The best argument he’s heard for bitcoin, he said, is that it can be useful to people in places with no other options – so long as the supply of coins doesn’t surge.
“If you were in Venezuela or Ecuador or North Korea or a bunch of parts like that, or if you were a drug dealer, a murderer, stuff like that, you are better off doing it in bitcoin than US dollars,” he said. “So there may be a market for that, but it’d be a limited market.”
The bank chief’s comments come as the bitcoin, a virtual currency not backed by any government, has more than quadrupled in value since December to more than $4,100.
Bitcoin is a digital currency that enables individuals to transfer value to each other and pay for goods and services bypassing banks and the mainstream financial system.
While banks have largely steered clear of bitcoin since it emerged following the financial crisis, the virtual currency has a range of people who support it, including technology enthusiasts, libertarians sceptical of government monetary policy and speculators attracted by its price swings.
“Like it or not, people want exposure to bitcoin,” Edward Tilly, chairman and CEO of exchange group CBOE Holdings, said at the same conference. CBOE has applied with US regulators to launch a bitcoin futures contract and a bitcoin exchange traded fund on its venues.
Any good trade is started with a difference of opinion, Mr Tilly added, “so Jamie can be on the short side and the issuers and those trading in physical can be on the long side, and it sounds like we have a great trade”.
Mr Dimon may also be on the other side of another bitcoin trade closer to home. At another conference about two hours later, he said that one of his daughters had bought some bitcoin.
“It went up and she thinks she’s a genius now,” Mr Dimon said at the CNBC Institutional Investor Delivering Alpha Conference.
Banks and other financial institutions have been concerned over bitcoin’s early association with online crime and money laundering.
The supply of bitcoin is meant to be limited to 21 million, but there are clones of the virtual currency in circulation which have made the market for it more volatile.
“It is worse than tulips bulbs,” Mr Dimon said, referring to a famous market bubble from the 1600s.
Mr Dimon differentiated between the bitcoin currency and the underlying blockchain technology, which he said can be useful. JP Morgan and many of its competitors have invested millions of dollars in blockchain, the technology that tracks bitcoin transactions. Blockchain is a shared ledger of transactions maintained by a network of computers on the internet.
Mr Dimon said such uses will roll out over coming years as it is adapted to different business lines. Still, he said banks’ application of blockchain “won’t be overnight”.
Financial institutions are hoping blockchain can be adapted to simplify and lower the costs of processes such as securities settlement, loan trading and international money transfers.
Mr Dimon predicted big losses for bitcoin buyers. “Don’t ask me to short it. It could be at $20,000 before this happens, but it will eventually blow up.” he said.
“Honestly, I am just shocked that anyone can’t see it for what it is.”
Bitcoin’s price fell as much as 4 per cent following the comments and was last trading at $4,164. Rumours that the Chinese government is planning to ban trading of virtual currencies on domestic exchanges has weighed on bitcoin recently.
“It feels like we are in the midst of a negative news cycle, but even considering all this, we are still trading above $4,000.” said John Spallanzani, chief macro strategist at GFI Group. – Reuters / Bloomberg