Plus Derval O’Rourke on life after elite sport

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With seven wins from the last ten championships, the Dublin football team are expected to be in the mix for the All-Ireland every year. Playing for Dublin means carrying that expectation, but it also means juggling a professional career and the demands of competitive sport.

Dublin footballers Dean Rock and John Small sat down with Ciarán Hancock to discuss the balancing act of winning 15 All-Ireland medals between them, while also excelling in their careers as utility consultants with

And what about life after elite sport?

Former Olympian and wellness entrepreneur Derval O’Rourke explains the challenges of calling time on her career in competitive sport and finding a new career in the wellness space.


Produced by John Casey and Suzanne Brennan, with JJ Vernon on sound.