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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: November 26, 2009 @ 11:17 am

    Speech Debelle’s blame report

    Jim Carroll

    Following her Mercury Prize win in September, Speech Debelle obviously expected an easy ride for herself and her “Speech Therapy” album. After all, she reckoned, the album had received damn good reviews and now, with the Mercury under her oxter to give her a dig-out, blockbuster album sales, sold-out shows and all of that razzmatazz would be hers.
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    But none of this happened. “Speech Therapy” did not progress far enough beyond its pre-Mercury sales tally to threaten the sharp end of the charts. Debelle’s live shows did not really move beyond the small rooms (and even at that, she couldn’t fill them). Just over two months after her Mercury night on the tiles, Debelle seems to feel that it’s all gone a little flat and now, she needs someone to blame. Voila – she fires her record label, boutique hip-hop imprint Big Dada.

    She claimed in an interview this week with BBC 6 Music that she was “disappointed” with the people she had worked with. “I wasn’t on a big label and the machine wasn’t there”, she said. “Even though the album won the Mercury, it was still only able to do what the label was capable of doing, which just means that I’m more prepared for next time.

    “The Mercury Prize was on a Tuesday, and the Friday there were no more physical albums in the shops. So on the Mercury weekend, which would have been my biggest-selling weekend, people couldn’t get it.”

    To back up her claims, she cited a “4,000% increase” in her Amazon sales and wondered why there wasn’t a similar bump in physical sales. It’s not known if anyone has pointed out to her that the number of high street outlets for physical sales has actually fallen somewhat in recent years.

    She blasted Big Dada’s “distribution network” for this lack of sales. Big Dada is a subsidary of Ninja Tunes and is distributed by PIAS, the company which also distributes such labels as XL, Domino and Rough Trade and works with such acts as Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand, Basement Jaxx, Radiohead, Dizzee Rascal, Vampire Weekend, Friendly Fires, The xx and many more. However, none of these have ever, to the best of my knowledge, blamed the “distribution network” for lack of sales.

    A veteran Irish promoter once remarked that when a show does really well, it’s all down to the band, but when a show flops, it’s the promoter’s fault. You could apply this thinking to Debelle pointing the finger of blame at Will Ashon and Big Dada. It’s not Debelle’s fault that her hip-hop album with its bittersweet sound and songs about family unhappiness, life on the edge and general social unease didn’t sell – it’s Ashon and his label’s fault.

    Naturally, she overlooks the fact that Big Dada actually signed her, spent time and money developing her and her sound and then released the album in the first place. According to Debelle herself in many interviews to plug the album, there wasn’t exactly a queue of labels seeking her signature in the six years it took her to get the songs together.

    Now, though, she says she’s ready to jump into bed with another label, but it will be interesting to see if there’s any takers for that proposed album (“a mix of Ray Charles, a song like “Georgia”… the atmosphere of Pink Floyd’s “Dark Side of the Moon” and the drums of J Dilla). After all, if Debelle couldn’t get arrested after all the media hoopla after the Mercury win, does she really stand a chance with album number two? Even a Mercury win doesn’t necessarily mean every radio station on the dial is going to play your tunes off the air. And without radio (and TV), Debelle’s never going to shift a colossal number of albums, no matter if they’re on display in every supermarket aisle in the land. A label is only as good as what it has to work with and Debelle may find few willing to give her the same leeway and encouragement she received from Big Dada. As the saying goes, a good workman never blames his – or her – tools.

  • 33 Comments

    1.
    November 26, 2009
    11:40 am

    Her album was out of stock in the UK and Ireland the week she won the prize and wasnt available again until at least a week after her win. Her point is completely valid and while firing her label might be a little extreme she is entitled to feel let down

    Comment by Vinnie
    2.
    November 26, 2009
    11:42 am

    Yeah, she took the easy way out … Maybe with people whispering in her ear, like an young footballer who hits the big time … The club want to nurture & protect, whereas the agent wants it all NOW !

    I think another problem for her was being caught between chairs regarding genres and that ugly HMV word ‘urban’ … If the BBCs Radio1 Xtra can’t find a place for her on their playlist, what chance any other station … Not that anyone is listening to R1 Xtra mind.

    Comment by Mully
    3.
    November 26, 2009
    11:46 am

    Vinnie – you still work in retail – was there a huge demand for her album post-Mercury?

    Mully – I think the lack of radio play for her album is more relevant to the lack of the sales than any distribution problems. For all the print and online profiles she got, it’s really radio which would turn her into a best-seller and radio did not come onboard with “Speech Therapy”.

    I’m also curious to know if she really has “fired” her label because I’m sure many other acts would like to do similar – surely there would be a contract with options weighed in the label’s favour?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    4.
    November 26, 2009
    12:18 pm

    There’s a fashion here in France for spoken word/slam set to jazz/hip-hop so she could do very well here. She’s been playlisted and prominently aired on an influential Paris station called Radio Nova that’s quite trendy and arty-bohemian. Some faux-boho UK acts (people like Hugh Coltman, Charlie Winston and Piers Faccini) are doing miles better in France than at home, filling large venues – she could be packaged as less urban and more coffee table.

    Big in France is the new Big in Japan :)

    Comment by aidan
    5.
    November 26, 2009
    12:40 pm

    Yeah
    It�s Eskiboy aka Wiley
    And I�m back, still treddin�
    A right nice 50/50
    Yo, I�m 50/50 nifty nifty
    Got the best deal nobody can twist me
    Anytime somebody try to shoot me
    I flip the board, they miss me, miss me
    They don�t wanna two fist me, fist me
    I�m quick
    I used to kick ball with
    And now, I fly through the air like a Frisbee
    Or paper aeroplanes see my life is risky
    They like the hype, and I like the mic
    We both like to fight, them girls like to lips me
    I don�t mind I�m an artist, don�t take part if you dont like drama
    Everyday I make history
    If I wanna turn Muslim I�ll go �n see Ibby and Shifty
    I got a brand new deal; at the other end it�s 50/50
    I�m 50/50
    Hold tight Big Dada

    blame the internet for spellins

    Comment by Daniel
    6.
    November 26, 2009
    12:48 pm

    Me thinks she has made a very big mistake…

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman
    7.
    November 26, 2009
    12:58 pm

    I think she has a fair point if it’s the case the retail shops were out of stock. That’s a massive fuck up. It’s a sacking offence.

    Plus I don’t think she thought it would ‘be an easy ride’ based on what she said.

    It’s probably not the sole reason for not breaking through.

    A good workman may not blame his tools but he’ll certainly blame his suppliers for fucking up an order

    Comment by nerraw
    8.
    November 26, 2009
    1:02 pm

    Is it possible that there is an element of sexism here as well? both in the audience accepting a black female MC and the label/ industry not knowing how to get it out there better. If she was a white singer songwriter I’m sure there would have been the expected spike in sales.

    If that’s the case I’d say she has a fair point getting frustrated with a system that has let down. Maybe taking drastic action like firing your label brings attention to this more than it would get otherwise. We’re talking about something now that I had quietly noticed a couple of months ago.

    Comment by Johnny
    9.
    November 26, 2009
    1:03 pm

    nerraw – but was there a demand at shop-level for punters for “Speech Therapy” to begin with? I’m curious to know if record shops up and down Ireland had hordes of people knocking on their door looking for the album to begin with. And if the stores had actually ordered enough copies to begin with?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    10.
    November 26, 2009
    1:05 pm

    @ Nerraw,

    It depends whether or not there was demand for them.
    You couldn’t move in London without seeing her album plastered on billboards and down the tube for some time after the Mercury’s.

    Also, if her shows aren’t selling out either, it points to a slightly larger problem than a record label one.

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman
    11.
    November 26, 2009
    1:25 pm

    I wonder does the lack of success for Speech say more about our perceptions/expectations for the Mercury winners rather than the actual quality of Speech’s album?

    The subsequent track record for previous winners has always been a bit more miss than hit. I am surprised that acts aren’t a bit more reluctant to be considered especially in those ‘urban’ genres eg Talvin Singh, Roni Size, Ms Dynamite.

    For the rock monsters, it appears to be almost a death knell of entering Coldplay territory i.e. commercial success at the expense of the artistic.

    Comment by James D
    12.
    November 26, 2009
    1:41 pm

    Just look at this
    Robbie Williams ’s management is reportedly preparing a plan to offer financial institutions a 50% stake in future releases

    Comment by Gerry
    13.
    November 26, 2009
    1:54 pm

    The fact is, Speech made a really ‘niche’ record. The music she makes doesn’t have a really big audience, a win was never going to translate into massive sales.

    Does she want to be the artist she wants to be, or does she want to shift units? She can’t do both.

    I met her a while after the Mercury, and she seemed pretty strong willed about making the music she wanted to make and F people who aren’t into it because she’s being true to herself. Fair enough, that’s the right attitude to have, but don’t expect people who buy Coldplay records to all of a sudden buy her stuff just because she won the Mercury.

    Big Dada probably fucked up on distribution, but who buys records in shops anyway? That was probably only going to be a small slice of her sales anyway. That old adage comes in here again: for every finger you point at someone three more point back at yourself.

    Comment by Una Mullally
    14.
    November 26, 2009
    1:54 pm

    True, there may not have been a demand. But you would imagine stores would’ve been packed with the record just in case. Just seems like an obvious thing to do.

    I don’t think her music has that wide an appeal to warrant massive sales but Debelle will always be left wondering.

    Comment by nerraw
    15.
    November 26, 2009
    1:55 pm

    Gerry – link to that story here – http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/nov/23/robbie-williams-album-rights

    It’s a bit like the fad for securitisation which David Bowie, James Brown and many others exploited when a dude called David Pullman, a music royalty securitisation expert, came up the gameplan.

    The “Bowie Bonds” netted $55 million in 1997 for the Thin White Duke when he sold shares in 25 of his albums recorded before 1990. Pullman’s other clients did well too – Ashford & Simpson ($25 million for the “I’m Every Woman” and “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough” songwriters), James Brown ($30 million), Isley Brothers (their 200 songs fetched another eight-figure sum) and Joan Jett (a lucrative issue largely based on one song “I Love Rock ‘N’ Roll). Others who went mad selling future royalties included Iron Maiden ($30 million), Rod Stewart ($15.4 million from Japanese investment bank Nomura Capital) and Dusty Springfield ($10 million for her back catalogue the year before she died).

    However, in 2004, US finance experts Moody’s Investors Services ran the rule over the current state of the Bowie bonds and significantly downgraded their value, sniffily describing them as “low quality speculative junk bonds, highly speculative in their ability to meet interest and principal obligations”.

    Don’t know what’s the state of them now. Anyone know?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    16.
    November 26, 2009
    2:00 pm

    @ Una,

    I’ve never heard that adage before, but will go out and use it right now

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman
    17.
    November 26, 2009
    2:02 pm

    I think banks have caused enough trouble without investing in Robbie Williams.

    Comment by Una Mullally
    18.
    November 26, 2009
    2:19 pm

    The problem with it all is the fact that the album isn’t actually that good. Mercury plumped for something different this year, like Dizzee a few years back, and some critics were afraid to say that it was not all that good for fear of sexism or racism.

    At the end of the day, it’s the music on the CD that sells the album, and this one is just not good enough. Don’t believe the hype.

    Comment by Ronan
    19.
    November 26, 2009
    2:20 pm

    Maybe she feels she’s gone as far as she can with Big Dada and needs to move on for herself as much as what she perceives as a lack of label competence. She strikes me as quite a singular character so it’ll be interesting to see where she goes next.

    But with a major distributor like that is shocking that her label was short-sighted enough to even let the album go out of stock following a Mercury nomination – let alone win.

    Comment by barryb
    20.
    November 26, 2009
    3:08 pm

    @ BarryB

    She will not know the extend of how many were shipped until the latter half of next year when her detailed statements arrive (trust me on this).

    If no units were shipped, then yes the label screwed up; however if it turns out that there are loads of returns, then it means there was no demand – but this will not be fully clear until next year.

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman
    21.
    November 26, 2009
    3:50 pm

    And Jim I read somewhere where the value of a song will become a tap of water. Who said this ?. A certain David Bowie

    Comment by Gerry
    23.
    November 26, 2009
    4:03 pm

    http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=10&p=7587&more=1&c=1

    Excellent article

    Record sales oops sorry CD sales are a thing of the past

    “In 2002, David Bowie predicted music would become a utility, like running water. He was right. The trouble with water is, it has a habit of slipping through your fingers”

    Comment by Gerry
    24.
    November 26, 2009
    4:10 pm

    Mar – that was the record label’s fault too

    Gerry – Bowie had the last laugh – he got $50 million for the Bowie Bonds.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    25.
    November 26, 2009
    4:13 pm

    the only big dad ish that should have got near winning a mercury was:
    http://www.bigdada.com/release.php?id=751

    Comment by OC
    26.
    November 26, 2009
    5:14 pm

    as ninjas dj food put it

    “amazing what a bit of success can do…”

    I think she made the bad decision in dumping big dada.. She won’t find another label that’ll let her have as much of a creative control over her music as BD did.. Also she’s bloody terrible live so i’m not surprised about the gig attendences

    Comment by carnie
    27.
    November 26, 2009
    5:22 pm

    Also she’s bloody terrible live so i’m not surprised about the gig attendences

    I was away when she played in Dublin in October – any reports on the gig and the numbers in attendance?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    28.
    November 26, 2009
    6:21 pm

    can;t say i’m surprised it didn’t sell hugely, it’s just not a great l.p. at the end of the day, bill, Not bad…. but by no means great either.

    and hardly accessible for daytime commercial radio

    Comment by jim comic
    29.
    November 26, 2009
    7:24 pm

    Ye totally agree with Carnie. Her performance at the award ceremony was terrible. I also agree with your comment Jim regarding daytime radio plays. Do feel her pain regarding the distribution problems as I experience this every week with our own label and no were not distributed by PIAS.I wish.

    Comment by Keith Downey
    30.
    November 27, 2009
    1:05 am

    have to agree with that veteran promoter whoever it is .

    1. the mecury prize is a poisened chalice, has fucked up many’s an acts career winning that yoke , they end up thinking winning an award actually means something and that they’re made. big mistake

    2. there’s no interest in seeing her live by sounds of it coz she aint great. you really need this nowadays to have any hope of selling music. and selling music is mainly a thing of the past anyway . she’s focussing on the wrong thing. The label got her an album, she wins an award. If she wants success after that , its really down to her, her live show and her personality. label cant do much more than put the album out, take the risk, and see what happens. Seems like the (mercury) light was shown on her, and people not to believe the hype. Wouldnt be the first time…

    Blaming the label though, i hate when artists make that excuse nowadays. The internet has demotcratised music. If people think your good, they’ll find ya and decide themselves . The litmus test as an act nowadays is whether people wanna see you perform. I’d believe all this ” there was huge demand for my album” shite if there was sellout gigs across the land . The Mecury curse strikes again me thinks

    Comment by tayor
    31.
    November 27, 2009
    12:35 pm

    oh dear..she’s really not having a very good week…even take that fans are booing her!!

    http://www.nme.com/news/speech-debelle/48581

    Comment by caroline
    32.
    November 27, 2009
    5:08 pm

    Re: Speech Debelle at the Take That shindig; it is really, really awful

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIqHE-_qORU

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman
    33.
    December 14, 2009
    1:35 pm

    It’s a shame her album didn’t do better, read here http://bit.ly/7OyUF9 she’s working with some interesting people for her next album so maybe do better.

    Comment by Chris

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