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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: October 19, 2009 @ 10:33 am

    Hard Working Class Heroes ‘09 – put the kettle on….

    Jim Carroll

    Big thanks to everyone involved in making the On The Record Presents @ HWCH night at the Twisted Pepper such a fantastic occasion over the weekend. It was all down to the eight acts who played on the night (round of applause one more time for Hunter-Gatherer, The Dying Seconds, The Spook Of The Thirteenth Lock, Valerie Francis, The Holy Roman Army, Cities, Yes Cadets and Kyon), Nialler9 and UnaRocks for the DJ-ing and Banter-ing, the audience who showed up, everyone at the venue and especially Aidan, the HWCH stage manager who was getting bands and DJs on and off that stage on time all night long. It was the first time I’ve ever curated a night or event like that and it was a blast. More OTR Presents events to come, for sure.

    Well, that’s the formalities done and dusted….

    It was The Guardian who provided an unlikely preamble for this year’s HWCH. Dave Simpson’s piece on the current state of major label A&R could not have been more timely as a pointer to how things have changed for those who work in the industry and, by extension, those bands who are reason why there’s an industry to begin with. This was a profession which once lived life high on the hog, inhabitating an universe of fancy restaurants, the best hotels in town and expense accounts flexible enough to hire the LA Centrefolds to do a private show in a suite in Dublin’s Conrad Hotel to woo impressionable kids from the Marble City. They were able to do so because record and CD sales were huge. These days, though, those A&R execs lodge in the local Travelodge and all eyes are on the bottom line. And this wasn’t a case of putting on a show for the hack: for instance, Sony A&R dude Paul Harris, who was featured in the piece, stayed in a mate’s house when he was in Dublin for the weekend.

    Record labels are still open for business, but they’re embracing a new sort of austerity. Even those indie imprints which weren’t flinging too much cash around on vintage wine to begin with are cutting back on their shoestring budgets. At “Meet your new best friend”, the record label industry panel at HWCH, four reps from Irish, UK and US indie labels talked frankly about the current state of the game. They have changed how they work, the deals they’re signing and the amount of money they’re prepared to invest in new bands. What’s the point in spending thousands and thousands on a video, they reckon, when it ain’t going to produce the same kind of return? Recording budgets? You didn’t have to even come to the panel to realise they’re on the slide when people can record albums on the same machine they use to create spreadsheets – have a read of this Los Angeles Times’ piece for a sign o’ the times takeaway for the knob-twiddling fraternity.

    All of this recession-era doom and gloom makes it an interesting time for a festival like HWCH. It’s a weekend where 100 or so acts play short, snappy sets in venues all over the city. There are also industry panels, rapidfire meet-and-greet sessions and a photo exhibition, but those 100 bands are the reason why the event happens in the first place. While there have been all manner of shorthand expressions used to try to explain HWCH to the uninitiated, that’s really it in the nutshell: 100 Irish bands showing audiences what they’ve got to offer. And when you have 100 bands playing in the one location over a few days, you do get a lot of attention and that’s where the rest of the weekend comes into focus.

    To judge by the sounds coming out of various venues over the weekend, we are living in interesting times for Irish music. As one veteran observer put it to me on Sunday night as we left yet another venue, there’s a hell of a lot of acts out there with something going on and that has not been the case for a number of years. The problem now is just what do you do with that “something”. After all, writing killer songs or nailing that chorus is just the start of things. The rest is perspiration and hard work. Anyone who thinks who can get by with one or the other is just fooling themselves – or doesn’t really have a clue what they are talking about.

    I chaired all four of the weekend’s industry panels and the same words kept cropping up again and again from the panelists: research, doing-it-yourself and filters. In a world where, as Jim Powers from Minty Fresh Records noted from a conversation with a MySpace rep, there are eight million bands on MySpace, it’s up to the bands themselves to do the spadework. A label or a booking agent or a blogger or a music supervisior or a music publisher or a festival booker is not going to find out about your killer songs and choruses unless you actually do some heavy promotional lifting of your own to get on their radar. Yes, as Domino’s Harry Martin said, people will find your act if you’re really that good, yet it still comes down to filters.

    Again and again, from the bloggers to the labels, there was an emphasis on using filters to cut through the swathe of eight million bands. Those filters might be blogs, trusted writers, recommendations from people on Twitter or just simply hearing about a band from two different people whose tips you respect. And those filters and personal contacts are something which technology cannot and will not be able to replicate.

    It was was interesting also to hear what the panelists had to say about the bands they met in the speed-dating sessions. Some acts, panelists would shake their heads sadly, haven’t a clue about the world beyond their rehearsal studio and just want someone else to do all the hard work. On the other hand, it was acts who had the makings of a gameplan, who had done their research and who were prepared to take advice onboard who made an impression. And in a world of eight million MySpace bands, making an impression is what counts.

    Out on the streets, there are plenty of acts making an impression. When I wasn’t confined to barracks at TP for this blog’s own night, I was concentrating on acts I hadn’t seen live before. I was hugely taken with Not Squares (awesome to the power of a billion with a drummer who is the Elvin Jones of the nu-punktronica scene), We Cut Corners (brilliantly erudite tunes from a duo who put plenty of bang into their folksy pop), Pearse McGloughlin (dude added a lot of muscle, fibre and flex to the songs from his “Busy Whisper” album), Tidal District (amped-up geek pop from a band who have a whole bunch of songs which match their boom tune “Don’t Turn Your Back On The Bear” for panache), Autumn Owls (finely pitched atmospheric songs which got under your skin and left a Fleet Foxes/Band Of Horses tattoo), The Brothers Movement (the band formerly known as Mainline take off their leather jackets and get fresh with a new take on the old Jayhawks strumathon), Kyon (fierce, furious and fascinating electronic/punk workouts) and, best of all, the men of The Spook of the Thirteenth Lock (mighty, mighty, mighty music fleshing out hardy tales from the banks of the Royal and Grand canals). I’ve also heard nothing but great things about the performances from Clare’s Cities and Waterford/Cork’s O Emperor.

    Naturally, I’d be interested to know what new acts readers saw and who impressed them. If you’ve blogged about the weekend, stick a link to your review in the comments below. In the interests of fairness, I’ll also link to the HWCH overviews and reviews from my print peers when they appear. I assume they were also out all weekend long checking out fresh new Irish bands to write and talk about. They were, weren’t they?

    All in all, then, a grand weekend out in the big smoke. Yep, I heard plenty of grumbles and quibbles from bands about everything from short changeover times or not getting on the bill. Yep, I nodded sagely when I heard these things and kept my serious face on before replying “what the fuck do you expect, you numptie?”. An event like HWCH gets attention because 100 bands playing over the course of three nights in one place so, of course, there are going to be short changeovers between acts. If you’re going to take 20 minutes to get your act together, don’t be surprised if a stage-manager politely tells you that you’ve now only got 10 minutes to play. Get over it. And if it doesn’t suit you, don’t play. I’m sure there are plenty of acts on the waiting list.

    And advice for bands who didn’t get picked? Dudes, do your own festival! As simple as that. That’s what I’d do if I was so annoyed that I was exerting time and effort fuming about not getting picked. Sort out your own wee fringe event and jump on the HWCH bandwagon by having it the same weekend. Call it Harder Working Class Heroes or Hardy Working Class Heroes. Do your own thing. Yeah, yeah, I know it sounds like hard work but – message to those at the back who might not have heard it the first, second of 53rd time – it really is all about hard work.

  • 51 Comments

    1.
    October 19, 2009
    10:56 am

    Was fairly overwhelmed by it all but impressed by BIggles Flys Again in Chapters & Neosupervital in Road Recs, short but sweet (and free!)

    Comment by ronan
    2.
    October 19, 2009
    11:06 am

    We cut corners were brilliant- I had never seen them before so it was a very pleasant surprise.

    Also, the ambience affair were great.

    Hadn’t been to the academy 2 before- don’t think much of it as a venue. Saw Biggles flys again there which i really enjoyed.

    Comment by Tom
    3.
    October 19, 2009
    11:31 am

    Thought the ambiance affair were a bit one trick pony. It’s a good trick but it wore thin kind of quickly because the songs didn’t hold me. Villagers were decent but yer man telling everyone to stfu was a bit soft. Any idea who was on in the button factory around 10pm on Friday night?

    Comment by Speewah
    4.
    October 19, 2009
    11:33 am

    Any idea who was on in the button factory around 10pm on Friday night?

    http://www.hwch.net/schedule.html

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    5.
    October 19, 2009
    11:37 am

    Some people are not happy

    “Thanks everyone who didn’t turn up to not watch the gig we didn’t play at HWCH again this year.Looking forward to not seeing u again in 2010″

    http://twitter.com/cowboyxmusic

    Comment by Tim Fridge
    6.
    October 19, 2009
    11:37 am

    Thanks Jim, very lazy of me altogether.

    Comment by Speewah
    7.
    October 19, 2009
    11:50 am

    10 pm on Friday was either A Plastic Rose from Belfast or Dark Room Notes. By far the most entertaining act played to about 20 people in Academy 2 on Friday at 8pm. NoLady from Donegal are a good time indie pop band not a million miles from Sultans of Ping territory. Loved the Brad Pitt Light Orchestra from last night too. The indie sound of O Emperor was at odds with their image but I can see why people like them. The best band I seen all weekend and not part of HWCHs was Murder Plan in Le Cirk on Friday night.

    Comment by Peter Nagle
    8.
    October 19, 2009
    11:51 am

    It’s funny to read the above blog post, note all the references to bands having to do stuff themselves, see the positive reports from the gigs and then read Cowboy X’s Tweet.

    What a shower of morons! If you don’t get picked, so what? Go off and do your own gigs. Another example of bands wanting someone else to do it all for them instead of them actually getting on their fat, pampered arses and doing it for themselves.

    Comment by James
    9.
    October 19, 2009
    11:55 am

    I was only at the Saturday and the highlight was Adebisi Shank – Sensibly at the top of the bill because how in hell do you follow that. Awesome.

    Cities were also good — similar to AS but with a bit of drum & bass added to the mix.

    Whats the deal with Sweet Jane? There was photographers crowding them as if they were the second coming. They’re a bit plain I thought.

    Comment by Peter81
    10.
    October 19, 2009
    12:08 pm

    We CuT Corners were a revelation. Where the hell did they come from ? Brilliant ! That singer in villagers is a knob. A deal with domino doesn’t make you a rockstar. Get over yourself.

    Comment by timB
    11.
    October 19, 2009
    12:08 pm

    I really enjoyed Talulah, Not Squares, Cities, Valerie Francis, Jogging, and Only Fumes and Horses.
    I missed Adebisi Shank but I have seen them a lot this year.

    A lot of stuff I didn’t like, but I’ll keep with the good vibes

    Comment by Pee
    12.
    October 19, 2009
    12:13 pm

    “That singer in villagers is a knob. A deal with domino doesn’t make you a rockstar. Get over yourself.”

    And so the backlash from the disgruntled hordes begins.

    Comment by SunnySideUp
    13.
    October 19, 2009
    12:20 pm

    Autumn Owls are good. Their first EP I particularly like. I’d have said more of a Wilco influence then Fleet Foxes/Band Of Horses but perhaps that stands out more on record than live.

    I skipped it this year as I’ve had more pressing matters on right now. The price for the weekend has always been a bit of a stumbling block for me I have to say.

    Cowboy X are the sound of what happens when you let too many recording engineers that aren’t Albini and Weston into your band.

    Comment by Ian
    14.
    October 19, 2009
    12:23 pm

    I’m not sure why Conor from Villagers is getting such a hard time. I thought they played well. And, he wanted people to be quiet because he was doing a quiet song without the full band. To be honest, if people aren’t there to listen to the band and want to chat instead then they should go somewhere else rather than trying to talk over the music and ruining it for the people that want to listen.

    I found that over the whole weekend that the audiences were very noisey.

    Comment by Tom
    15.
    October 19, 2009
    12:25 pm

    “A deal with domino doesn’t make you a rockstar. Get over yourself.”

    Ah I dunno, I’ll always be of the opinion that if people don’t want to hear someone’s music at one of these things they should fuck off and try to find something that they do like.

    Comment by Ian
    16.
    October 19, 2009
    12:26 pm

    @Peter 81
    The photographers were a little annoying at the front of all the stages. They should have been told that they could take photo’s for the first 2 songs of each act and thats it i think.

    Comment by Tom
    17.
    October 19, 2009
    12:38 pm

    I heard a few reports about Conor being a little bit stuck up his own arse at the Villagers gig. Seems unlikely, but he must have been a bit rude to offend everyone I’ve talked to that was there.

    @Peter81 Sweet Jane most likely hired them to crowd around the front of the stage to make them look cool. If you looked closely, they were probably toy cameras from the €2 Shop.

    Comment by kDamo
    18.
    October 19, 2009
    12:43 pm

    Ah I dunno, I’ll always be of the opinion that if people don’t want to hear someone’s music at one of these things they should fuck off and try to find something that they do like.

    That’s my golden rule at these yokes – 100 bands playing so if the band aren’t rocking your world (or they’re spending too long trying to get their sitar in tune), head to another venue. It only takes 5 mins to get from ALT or 4 Dame Lane across to the Twisted Pepper or Academy 2. Yes, only 5 mins – as timed last night.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    19.
    October 19, 2009
    12:58 pm

    5 mins on a Sunday but on a Friday or Saturday night with more traffic and the un-easy feeling that you are being stalked by about 2 millions axis then you’re talking at least double that time!

    Comment by Peter Nagle
    20.
    October 19, 2009
    1:19 pm

    I enjoyed Bitches With Wolves, Sargeant Megaphone, Villagers, and Valerie Francis. But most of all, I enjoyed Adebisi Shank. Seeing them live is like being in on speed in some fucked up Japanese wind tunnel.

    RE: Conor telling people to shut up during Villagers. I don’t generally have a problem with musicians doing that. As someone else said, if you don’t want to hear the music, then why they fuck are you there? Thought they played a good set.

    Comment by unarocks
    21.
    October 19, 2009
    1:25 pm

    “Stuck up his own arse” is the version the hundred people who wouldn’t shut the fuck up would give you.

    “Well within his rights” is the version those of us who were there to actually listen to music as the main rather than background attraction would tell.

    Not like there wasn’t anywhere else to go.

    Most impressed with Adebisi Shank and Super Extra Bonus Party, and I enjoyed Not Squares, Hunter-Gatherer and the Funeral Suits a lot too. Funeral Suits were a surprise, but great.

    Comment by Karl
    23.
    October 19, 2009
    1:34 pm
    24.
    October 19, 2009
    2:12 pm

    He tried to quiet the crowd down a couple of times and it hadn’t worked, at that point he should have just gotten on with things. Telling people to shut the fuck up is pointless at that stage and he came across as a bit self important, the most noticeable affect of which was that he lost a portion of the crowd who were there to listen, me included.

    Comment by Speewah
    25.
    October 19, 2009
    2:24 pm

    Was too busy talking to hear Conor’s comments. Get off your high horse, dude.

    Comment by alien lanes
    26.
    October 19, 2009
    2:27 pm

    The joys of gigging in Dublin, part 17,899. An oldie, but a goodie.

    Dublin audiences just love to spend 40 yoyos for a weekend so they can talk to their mates at the bar because that’s really what people around them want to hear. Fucking clowns, the lot of them.

    Comment by Dip
    27.
    October 19, 2009
    2:28 pm

    I didn’t get to see much of the festival as we were stuck in Filmbase all weekend recording bands that were coming in to get their passes or just to drop their CDs off. This is as part of the 2xm live broadcast for the three nights and we got some very cool footage and interviews on the net already.

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/rt%C3%89-2xm

    Full high quality content with all bands we recorded should be up soon.

    Funeral Suits really stood out during the weekend for me – http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2379173

    Comment by adnans
    28.
    October 19, 2009
    2:46 pm

    @ Karl

    Couldn’t agree more.

    @ alien lanes

    There’s no point in going to see a band if you’re just gonna talk the whole way through it.

    Comment by Tom
    29.
    October 19, 2009
    2:55 pm

    I think villagers had lost a fair portion of the crowd before he told us to STFU. Saw frightened rabbit recently and the singer did one song with and accoustic guitar and no mike. Not a peep from the crowd. you’ve either got it or you don’t.

    Comment by timB
    30.
    October 19, 2009
    2:59 pm

    Plain to see that good old-fashioned Irish begrudgery is sadly alive and well

    Villagers sign deal with Domino. Suddenly, overnight, little Conor is seen as being up his own hole when he asks people to stay quiet.

    Ah, Irish music fans and especially members of failed Irish bands, you really are a bag of spanners.

    Comment by Aoifed
    31.
    October 19, 2009
    3:14 pm

    A lot of people missing the point here. Telling your ‘fans’ to shut the fuck up just isn’t a good career move. no matter what you think of their music, the guy came across as a bit of a tool.

    Comment by timB
    32.
    October 19, 2009
    3:21 pm

    timB – you’re obviously not a fan but, judging by the number of comments you’ve had to make about this above, you must have some axe to grind.

    Comment by PGS
    33.
    October 19, 2009
    3:21 pm

    At which point OTR steps in, yawns, scratches his chin and decides ‘enough already’ with comments about the Villagers and people yakking at gigs. It’s like tuning into a conversation with Frames fans circa 2000. B-o-r-i-n-g.

    No mas, amigos. All further comments of a similar “he said/he had every right to say” stripe will be simply deleted or edited out. Panto season doesn’t start till December, you know.

    Back to the post above and the rest of the fest.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    34.
    October 19, 2009
    3:35 pm

    Managed to catch the end of Land Lovers in The Button Factory. They played a nice set, very interesting, . Stuck around for Fionn Regan who was ok i guess. Nothing new here, move along. Ended up in ALT and got to see some Sweet Jane. Do not go see that band. Then like most of the people on here watched Adebisi Shank. Great set, full of beans. Something good must come of the Shank.

    Comment by Bara.
    35.
    October 19, 2009
    3:52 pm

    I saw O Emperor outside Taste on south William street on Saturday and was really impressed. Didn’t make it to their gig that night though. I went to Kill Krinkle club instead and wasn’t very impressed- they were ok but don’t manage to recreate the great sound on their recorded songs.

    Comment by Tom
    36.
    October 19, 2009
    4:08 pm

    I though Gran Casino were great fun but couldn’t say the same for Sweet Jane – what was the story with the six photographers there though? I’ve never seen that many at such a relatively small gig.
    I thought Spook were quality as well. Congrats on a cracking festival. It would be great if more bands could arrange shows like this where one ticket would give you the option of two or three venues within strolling distance. At a recent Redneck gig, Richie Egan announced they were finishing so everybody could head down to Andrew’s Lane and catch another band whose name escapes me (sorry!), which I thought was very classy.

    Comment by Lar
    37.
    October 19, 2009
    4:19 pm

    “At a recent Redneck gig, Richie Egan announced they were finishing so everybody could head down to Andrew’s Lane and catch another band whose name escapes me”

    Jape?

    Comment by Peter81
    38.
    October 19, 2009
    4:22 pm

    :-)

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    39.
    October 19, 2009
    5:17 pm

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz………

    Comment by Quint
    40.
    October 19, 2009
    5:24 pm

    catch another band whose name escapes me (sorry!)

    Bats, their albums launch was that night.

    Comment by Ian
    41.
    October 19, 2009
    6:30 pm

    Thought it worked really well this year away from the market square.

    Friday highlights were Not Squares & Subplots, although I’d really be hesitant about paying into Academy 2, particularly if I reckon the gig will be fulllish. That No Squares drummer is something else.

    Caught Cities, Yes Cadets, Fionn Regan and the Shank on Saturday, all of whom I enjoyed to various degrees. I brought a few friends to see the Shank, the look on their faces during was special.

    Sweet Jane come across as all style but very little substance

    Comment by JC
    42.
    October 19, 2009
    8:27 pm

    I only made it on Friday and Saturday nights, but was impressed by O Emperor, Gran Casino and a band I stumbled upon in the new Think Tank (a vast improvement on the open sewer that was The Hub) called Liz is Evil. After they got over their sound problems, The Holy Roman Army were starting to sound good, too. I like the addition of the trumpet.

    Comment by Lauren
    43.
    October 19, 2009
    9:39 pm

    we cut corners-amazing!

    Comment by Caoimhe
    44.
    October 19, 2009
    9:46 pm

    shit. i completely forgot about it. went to the ‘meitheal’ down in arbour hill. they’d installed a temporary park and stuff was going on in the joinery gallery. great buzz altogether. also was in at that viking stuff in wood quay. how ironic to concrete over a viking settlement and then try to recreate the buzz over a weekend. only in Ireland folks!

    Comment by the golden maverick/ matt vinyl
    45.
    October 19, 2009
    10:23 pm

    Adebisi Shank was a real highlight, there really were so many fantastic acts out. Ireland should be proud! :) Check out our blog for interviews, video and band Q&A from HWCH! http://inkywrists.wordpress.com

    Comment by inkywrists.wordpress.com
    46.
    October 20, 2009
    6:58 am

    @Peter81 So, more Plain Jane than Sweet Jane?

    Comment by Dave
    47.
    October 20, 2009
    9:30 am

    I enjoyed the weekend (though didn’t get in on Sunday night due to ‘unforeseen circumstances’). Enjoyed the discussion on online media on Saturday afternoon Jim. Good to hear the likes of yourself, Niall and Una confirming what I’ve thought for a long time now that Irish bands don’t make enough use of the interweb machine.

    I also reviewed Friday and Saturday night for CLUAS if anyone would care to read (BLATANT PLUG!). By the by, I chose to ignore those people talking at Villagers (and Conor’s reaction) and focus on those people, like myself, that were there to hear them.

    http://www.cluas.com/indie-music-reviews/gigs/

    Comment by Steve
    48.
    October 20, 2009
    11:26 am

    just caught the last three songs by We Cut Corners. not your usual indie fare but all the better for that. 10 / 10 ! the shank rocked as usual.

    Comment by jude
    49.
    October 22, 2009
    2:14 pm

    Got up to dublin for HWCH, got to a few events, but would have loved to have seen/heard more.

    Just wanted to post something to say congrats to all involved in organising the festival. It really is a well needed festival, to help bands and artists to draw attention to their music. And also, so lovely to be in a dublin crowd, full of people who genuinely appreciate music, who dont necessarily need to know the band to be there.

    Also seemed to be a good turnout overall.

    And its great to see there are a few bands out there pushing the boundaries, in many different ways.

    Comment by Finola
    50.
    October 22, 2009
    4:28 pm

    Jim , sorry I’m a bit behind in my catchin up.. Missed it this year cause I moved back home. Recessionary and geography issues are seriously curtailing my gigging these days. Just wondering was the attendence down as a result of there being no international section this year? Seems like that always drew a few extra bodies. We Cut Corners seem to be the choice of people. Must check em out.. Livin in the south west is no musical heaven I’ll tell ya.

    Comment by Martin
    51.
    October 22, 2009
    5:40 pm

    Martin – as Finola notes @ 48, there seems to have been a good turnout though I dont know the exact figures. Certainly, I thought there were far more people wandering from venue to venue on Friday than in previous years – and there was a monster crowd in TP on Saturday night to see the Spook of the Thirteenth Lock. There was definitely a better buzz about with people very keen to see as many acts as possible.

    In terms of choices of the people – the acts most mentioned in dispatches coming my way were O Emperor, We Cut Corners, Cities and Adebisi Shank. Interestingly, the international reps I’ve spoken to were going gaga for Villagers and Heathers.

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