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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: June 25, 2009 @ 11:35 pm

    Michael Jackson RIP

    Jim Carroll

    Per LA Times and BBC, Michael Jackson died in the UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles this evening.

    Lovely piece from Nadine.

    Irish Times obit here.

    Video from way, way, way back in the day

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  • 68 Comments

    1.
    June 25, 2009
    11:53 pm

    I am shocked. I am numb. I can not believe it.

    The King of Pop is dead.

    He was a genius. His music was an inspiration.

    Rest in peace.

    Comment by Conor Furlong
    2.
    June 26, 2009
    12:02 am

    “Thriller” was the first album I ever bought – still love it. So terrible that MJ became better known for all the controversies than the music

    Comment by Smithy
    3.
    June 26, 2009
    12:10 am

    wow

    my first ever concert was Michael Jackson at the RDS 1996- I was just 13…I’ve been hooked and gig going ever since..sad times for his family, friends and fans.

    No matter what happened on in his later years, he made alot of people happy..he’ll continue to influence millions for lifetimes to come

    RIP

    Comment by caroline
    4.
    June 26, 2009
    12:36 am

    I just saw the performance of Billy Jean at the Motown 25th party; whatever the hell happened afterwards, and Christ knows plenty did, he was untouchable right there and then, and deservedly so. THAT was a star.

    In a way, the life was sadder than the death

    Comment by ivan
    5.
    June 26, 2009
    8:48 am

    a flawed genius , he was a complete odd ball but most of his music was great

    Comment by petee
    6.
    June 26, 2009
    9:37 am

    it’s typical, everyone’s gonna harp on now about how great he was and changed the world blah blah…. while they’d be the first to tell jokes about him.

    he touched kids….he did. Admission of guilt was when he payed out. good luck to him, coz he’ll need it

    Comment by paddy m
    7.
    June 26, 2009
    10:02 am

    Like many great artists he had loads of personal demons but whether it be James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Samuel Beckett, Miles Davis or Picasso or whoever else, I am of the opinion that the art can appreciated without always having to make a moral judgement on the artist

    http://steviegblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/michael-jackson-rip.html and http://steviegblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/10-more-moments-of-michael-magic.html

    Comment by Stevie G
    8.
    June 26, 2009
    10:32 am

    I agree with Paddy M. The guy made some fabulous music (and as I said elsewhere I think that song that Jim posted is probably the second greatest pop tune of all time) but the things that he very likely did shouldn’t be swept underneath the carpet even at a time like this.

    Even if you can compartmentalise between his music and his life away from music I think that it’s hugely dishonest now that he’s dead for people to not take a look at his life in it’s entirety when discussing him.

    Comment by Ian
    9.
    June 26, 2009
    10:34 am

    Sad to see an icon go. Esp sad when he had a tour ahead of him and an opportunity to show the world his great talents again. Its such a pity he didnt even get to play one of those concerts.

    I liked the jackson 5 stuff the best. He was a blast of energy. He had lived a lifetime by the age of 11.

    Comment by Finola
    10.
    June 26, 2009
    10:40 am

    When you saw him dance at his peak he made every move look so effortless and cool.
    I’m not really going to express this properly, but he made dancing masculine, if you know what I mean. He made proper grown man think “Jesus that is the coolest thing i’ve ever seen”.

    If ever a screaming frenzy was justified, it was when Michael Jackson was dancing on stage.

    @paddy m
    I don’t think he’ll be needing any luck, he’s dead.

    Comment by lutin
    11.
    June 26, 2009
    11:01 am

    It’s a strange one. I’m sure after a few more hours of blanket (no pun intended) coverage, we’ll be sick of it but it does make you think about his position in the music world, etc.

    I can understand and totally agree with what Paddy M has to say but I hope that folks will be able to focus on the incredible classics that he’s left behind. It seems a little unfair to not recognise the musical and cultural impact. Regardless of him as a human being, it’s impossible to deny the quality of his Jackson 5 or OTW to Bad output.

    Not looking forward to the media overkill over the next few days/weeks. We’ll have to contend with the fate of his kids, the circus of the funeral, the resolution of the gigs, the fate of his estate (and bills).

    When you throw in a couple of interviews with the medical staff who worked on him, the reaction of the fans and the showbiz world, it’s gonna be some overwhelming/insufferable weeks.

    The repercussions will mean that this story will run and run for decades. Elvis Mk 2.

    Comment by James D
    12.
    June 26, 2009
    11:06 am

    His music was complete shit.

    I am sorry he is dead.

    Comment by Michael FINLAN
    13.
    June 26, 2009
    11:16 am

    While the London gigs will no doubt be refunded, say you are a die hard MJ fan but didn’t get tickets to his comeback tour. Out of desperation you buy tickets at hugely inflated prices on eBay – where do you stand?

    I’m not in this situation, just curious.

    Comment by Joe
    14.
    June 26, 2009
    11:30 am

    @Smithy

    His own fault really. What with the touching kids and all that…

    Comment by James
    15.
    June 26, 2009
    11:34 am

    Michael Jackson’s legacy will be the incredible music he created that is universally acclaimed around the world. He is a star in every sense of the word and one that we will never witness again. 750 million albums sold = the greatest musical icon of them all.

    R.I.P. Michael

    Comment by Al D
    16.
    June 26, 2009
    11:38 am

    I was always more of a Jermaine Jackson fan myself.

    Comment by Matt Vinyl/The Golden Maverick
    17.
    June 26, 2009
    11:46 am

    The only good thing to come out of this is the ticket agency’s in london will all be taking a big hit today

    Comment by petee
    18.
    June 26, 2009
    11:53 am

    @Joe,

    I’d say if you did that, you’re screwed. You’ll get a refund for the price of the ticket from ticketmaster (assuming you have it in your hand), but whatever you paid over the face value is gone. I suppose that’s the risk when you buy from touts.

    Comment by lutin
    19.
    June 26, 2009
    11:54 am

    @petee

    Hope you’re right. Would be nice to see the touts get shafted for once.

    Comment by lutin
    20.
    June 26, 2009
    11:54 am

    On the business front, I assume AEG had cancellation insurance for those 02 shows?

    I thought it was hillarious to hear in one report last night (it was on Sky News so I suppose they had to report something when they couldn’t get Uri Geller away from the spoons) MJ when he was wheeled into the hospital, there were a dozen people with him yelling to docs not to let him die. Bang goes their meal ticket

    As lots of people have said above and elsewhere, the music (chiefly “Off the Wall”, “Thriller” and the Jackson 5 stuff) was amazing – just a shame that the offstage madness, lunacy and allegations overshadowed all of that.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    21.
    June 26, 2009
    11:59 am

    To rehash the tribute I posted on my own blog last night:

    If you weren’t a child of the 1980s, it’s impossible to exaggerate the extent to which this man’s outrageous talent captivated a generation. There is no contemporary equivalent. No one even comes close.

    As an entertainer in the era of recorded music, he had only three peers: Elvis, Sinatra and the Beatles.

    Half a dozen or so of his songs might be appropriate to post here to mark his passing. Somewhat perversely, I’ve chosen a song he didn’t write and never performed, but which sums up how I think a lot of us might feel about the man in his later years. Like Mr Bojangles, Jackson’s failings were human failings. But his talent was divine.

    Comment by Eoin
    22.
    June 26, 2009
    12:01 pm

    @paddy m. you sound sure of yourself, but you know nothing, none of us have a clue of the reality. I can honestly say i feel sorry for you that at a time like this you have to be so cynical and say things like good luck he’ll need it. What, in hell? Is that what you’re saying? What shit. I will never know what happened so i’m not going to waste my time thinking or discussing it, all i know is his music, which, @ ian, is the only thing i ‘honestly’ know about him.

    Comment by Michael
    23.
    June 26, 2009
    12:05 pm

    Pitchfork have collated a load of Tweeter comments about MJ here – http://pitchfork.com/news/35746-artists-react-to-michael-jacksons-death/

    My fave – Mogwai’s Stuart Braithwaite:

    You bought the Elephant Man’s bones and sent a statue of yourself round the world. RIP you amazingly talented loonball.

    And on the business front, from Record of the Day, “5 of the top 14 albums on amazon MP3 sales charts are MJ already today” and “All of the top 15 albums (physical) are Michael Jackson albums”

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    24.
    June 26, 2009
    12:17 pm

    a little info coming from nme.com regarding tickets and an announcment
    coming soon….

    http://www.nme.com/news/nme/45623

    Comment by caroline
    25.
    June 26, 2009
    12:23 pm

    @Michael, you don’t honestly know that that he dangled his baby off of a hotel balcony? You don’t know that he admitted to having sleepovers with young boys?

    Comment by Ian
    26.
    June 26, 2009
    12:30 pm

    @Ian

    Christ on a bike. Any chance we can maybe not have the whole “Jacko was/wasn’t a paedo” ping-pong? There will be no winners.

    Comment by lutin
    27.
    June 26, 2009
    12:31 pm
    28.
    June 26, 2009
    12:31 pm

    So? The guy was messed up, obviously. How much dumb shit do i do on a weekly basis that isnt noticed by anyone because the whole world isnt watching every move i make. Sleepovers, what does that mean exactly? What happened? Do you know? Would i have settled out of court if my child was molested? No bloody way. I dont even want to waste my time any further with this pointless speculation, the only thing i know, as i said, is his music and thats what i want to concentrate on

    Comment by Michael
    29.
    June 26, 2009
    12:34 pm

    Saddest day since Johnny Cash died. A massive loss. His comeback would’ve been amazing. I had tickets for February 2010, and was already excited for it.

    I’ve put up his entire RDS show from 1997 on my blog, http://swearimnotpaul.blogspot.com/2009/06/watch-michael-jackson-rds-dublin-1997.html

    We’ll never see that kind of show on our shores again.

    Comment by Ronan
    30.
    June 26, 2009
    12:36 pm

    @22

    Would you pay millions of dollars to a kid you DIDN’T abuse in the middle of the case? Don’t be so naïve. He admitted on camera to sharing his bed with kids, that’s not normal behaviour is it?

    Anyone who can seperate the man and the music would obviously have no problems playing a Gary Glitter record at their kids next birthday party.

    Michael Jackson might be responsible for some of the greatest pop tracks of all time but that doesn’t mean what he did in his personal life should be ignored now that he’s dead because it taints the legacy of his music. Lets face it, very few people have talked about Michael Jackson as a musician over the past decade and a half, why is that part of his life so important to you now?

    Comment by Steve
    31.
    June 26, 2009
    12:41 pm

    My mum took me to see Michael Jackson at Pairc Ui Caoimh when I was five. It was my first ever gig, and it was amazing. He was truly my idol then I think. It’s always been difficult to reconcile my early idolised image of him with the one that we have all become more familiar with since the early 90s.

    There is an early demo version of Billie Jean on an anniversary edition of Thriller which I think categorically shows that Michael Jackson was fundamentally a brilliant musician. So I echo what others have said here – the music, and the genius of his performing talent is what I will remember.

    I think it is sad that he has died, but I do hope, for a man who has appeared to have lived such a tortured life, he finds some peace in death.

    Comment by Julie
    32.
    June 26, 2009
    12:44 pm

    There is a new Best Of… being released by Sony next week…

    Now thats cynicism we can all learn from..

    Comment by fillerup
    33.
    June 26, 2009
    12:48 pm

    Bad was the CD I ever saw and it was the first time I realised that music existed outside what was on the radio.
    Incredible talent and with the wide diffusion of popular culture nowadays there’ll never be another star as big.

    His early albums had a massive impact on my childhood so I’m remembering that today. Unfortunately I mourned the loss of Michael Jackson years ago.

    Comment by Bold Lump
    34.
    June 26, 2009
    12:53 pm

    @30 because he’s dead steve. That’s why. I may not have listened to him much over the last few years but my entire childhood is infused with his music and it means a lot to me. I can well imagine him throwing money to try and get rid of the case, whether he was innocent or not. It seems as though he was surrounded by people giving him bad advice and taking advantage. who knows.

    Comment by Michael
    35.
    June 26, 2009
    1:07 pm

    An extraordinary talent. It’s sad that so much of his personal life was blighted. He deserved to be happier. A deeply screwed-up individual.

    I want to remember him the way he sounded, looked and danced on the Billie Jean vid. Why on earth did such a great-looking guy want to turn himself into the plastic surgery disaster area he became? Discuss…

    Comment by KC
    36.
    June 26, 2009
    1:27 pm

    sorry who is this person you all speak off.I’ve never heard of him.

    Comment by Martin
    37.
    June 26, 2009
    1:32 pm

    I grew up watching fab Vinnie on MT USA (the programme that introduced Ireland to exciting artists and videos such as ZZ Top, Pat Benatar and ..emmm Toto) on a Sunday afternoon and I think this is where I first saw Wacko Jacko first with Billy Jean and the the enormously exciting (for an 11 year old) Thriller video.. in full.

    At the time it was huge event. Soon after I bought Thriller with my confirmation money is Golden Discs, Stillorgan.. still got the vinyl buried in the attic.

    Comment by Declan
    38.
    June 26, 2009
    1:37 pm

    @ 21 – Eoin, Here here.

    I’ve been listening to him all afternoon, tracks I hadn’t pulled out in years, and memories of my teens are flooding back.

    There’s a graph on last fm of scrobbled Jackson tracks since the news broke and plays have spiked through the roof in a dead straight line

    Comment by sarah
    39.
    June 26, 2009
    1:42 pm

    very moved
    very sad
    very, very sad
    but a little relieved that such pain is at an end

    Comment by Mahon
    40.
    June 26, 2009
    1:51 pm

    As a child of the 80’s, it was always Prince v. MJ in the talent/superstar stakes. MJ sold more, but I always thought Prince was more talented. It is impossible to ignore the paedopilia aspect, but the whole celebrity thing resulted in him having what appeared to be a very sad life (not an excuse for paedophilia in any way). Lets hope his children get a better shot at it. Enough of the press’s self-serving celebrity mania – its time to focus on more important things.

    Comment by khan
    41.
    June 26, 2009
    2:19 pm

    Who’s going bad?

    Mayfayne

    Comment by Michael Kenny
    42.
    June 26, 2009
    2:28 pm

    Tragic news.

    I just wonder if RTE will pull my performance of Bad on The Den out of the archives as a tribute at the end of the 6 o’clock news tonight.

    Comment by P&M
    43.
    June 26, 2009
    2:30 pm

    ‘Anyone who can seperate the man and the music would obviously have no problems playing a Gary Glitter record at their kids next birthday party.’

    No, who would do that? Gary Glitter is shit.
    If you had never heard about Michael Jackson’s private life, but heard his music you’d think it was amazing – nothing should stop you listening to it. I think people need to remember the life he had before the accusations, the events that led him to have the problems he had & the situations he ended up in. It’s not an excuse and it doesnt make it ok, but it doesnt make his story any less sad.
    He was a strange man and he lived a strange life. But he was also an extremely talented man & has influenced so much of what we listen to today. So for that, be thankful.

    Comment by C
    44.
    June 26, 2009
    3:03 pm

    To steal a line from John Lennon – Jackson died when he went over to Pepsi.

    Talented – Yes
    Lucky – Very

    Misguided – Yes
    Tolerated – Yes

    Comment by EjM
    45.
    June 26, 2009
    3:35 pm

    just regarding the issue of the cancelled gigs – what I’m gonna find interesting is the issue of the ‘official’ seconary market which, I think, we’d all accept exists, wherein the promoter or the artist actually siphon off prime tickets to sell at inflated prices. Obviuosly if you buy over the odds on Ebay – tough titty, but if you go through semi-official channels, it could get very interesting, could it?

    Comment by ivan
    46.
    June 26, 2009
    3:43 pm

    It’s all a bit sad really but what did we expect? That he’d have some kind of damascean conversion to normality? He’s been on a one-way trip to insanity since he started singing with The Jackson 5.

    If we look back on his body of work it’s obvious that whilst in The Jackson 5 on Motown (and to some degree with The Jacksons on Epic Records) he had little in the way of creative control. He was writing good tunes but it was the production on them that made them so good. Later in life he owed a huge debt to Quincy Jones and it was their partnership that saw him pull some magic tunes out of the hat. The Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad albums (all produced by Quincy Jones) will be his lasting legacy. All the shit that came after will be forgotten and rightly so. He degenerated into some kind of whooping, hollering, shamon mofo, ee hee vaudeville act. In fact when I think about it even Bad wasn’t that good (excuse the pun).

    It was his inability to have a grasp on any kind of normal life that will also affect his legacy. He’s been demonised for quite a number of years for his antics in private life and rightly so. That kind of carry on will always taint your perception of an individual. However one of my favourite stories of the last few years involves Michael Jackson’s stay in Grouse Lodge (outside Portlaoise) a couple of years back. According to my second-hand sources he would regularly dine in the family home of the Grouse Lodge owners and was in fact a bit of a buzzer by all accounts. He was even partial to a few pints of Guinness during the course of his stay. It’s stuff like that that you’ll never hear about him. Even the nuttiest of us have a human side and it would be nice to think that he had one too. I’d prefer to remember him moon-walking across the kitchen with a pint of Guinness than to think of the freak show that has been his life over the last 20 years.

    P.S. I still think he says the words ‘Every night she washes my in-betweens’ in the opening line of ‘The Girl is Mine’ with Paul Mc Cartney.

    Comment by Matt Vinyl/The Golden Maverick
    47.
    June 26, 2009
    3:47 pm

    While we cannot ignore the controversies surrounding recent years, the focus now should be on his music and the great joy and entertainment he gave to countless millions – if not billions – of people worldwide.

    Watching US TV last night (as I’m living in NY), they showed some old interviews with Barbara Walters and others, which showed a confused, naive and very insecure young man, who never had a real childhoold and who clearly didn’t have the benefit of childhood friends. While it seems simplistic, this must have a lot to do with his desire to hang around children. We should not forget, either, that he was never convicted of anything. A jury acquitted him in the most recent trial.

    As for the $23million pay-off to the family of another boy, the TV last night played some recordings of the father of the child, made months before the settlement. He can be clearly heard telling a friend that he was going to milk Jackson. I would like to know why the parents of the children who were allowed to hang out with Jackson were not also put on trial for negligence? What normal parent would allow their child to sleep over in the house of an older adult who is not related to them, or not a close family friend, even a famous one?

    Comment by Paul
    48.
    June 26, 2009
    4:11 pm

    Place your faith in proof – the only thing we truly know is his unrivalled claim to the crown of Popular Music.

    I don’t know that he was a paedo or bought Merrick’s remains or any of the other sensationalist BS the papers printed.
    All I know is what’s in my own head and hearrt – the legacy and love he left that revolved around great music. That was all.

    Man, I’m gonna miss him. He just never had a chance to buy a pint of milk and wander down the road with his iPod on, kicking up his heels. We should be thankful for small blessings.

    *straight out to buy all the albums all over again*

    Comment by Naomi
    49.
    June 26, 2009
    4:12 pm

    Guess I was born in the wrong generation….our idols were role models, people who actually deserved our praise. People who led their lives as examples one should live by.
    I hope they hurry up and bury Jackson so we can get on with everyday activities. No way does this man deserve the sort of media attention given to Kennedy, 9/11, Princess Di. I am continually amazed and disgusted with our media.

    Comment by Katty
    50.
    June 26, 2009
    4:13 pm

    You talented, weird, beautiful, freak….an icon of pop, inventive, misunderstood and tragic, he will live on in MTV and our imagination forever. Anyone hear how Bubbles the chimp took the news?

    Comment by Cameron
    51.
    June 26, 2009
    4:30 pm

    “I am continually amazed and disgusted with our media.”

    I am continually amazed and disgusted by people being continually amazed and disgusted with our media and using that same media to express how continually amazed and disgusted they are with our media.

    Comment by Bubbles
    52.
    June 26, 2009
    4:53 pm

    @Katty

    I’m not sure anyone on here suggested that he was a good role model, just that he was enormously talented in his field which was the entertainment industry.
    In that respect, I’d say he has had as much impact in his field as Kennedy had in Politics or Princess Diana had in humanitarianism (or um, being a princess??).

    As a matter of interest, who are your idols and are they any good at moonwalking?

    As for you getting back to your “everyday activities” – guess what, you can do that right now, by not posting on boards about Michael Jackson.

    Comment by lutin
    53.
    June 26, 2009
    5:41 pm

    Matt@46 – ”However one of my favourite stories of the last few years involves Michael Jackson’s stay in Grouse Lodge (outside Portlaoise) a couple of years back”

    Outside Portlaoise??? Grouse Lodge Studios is a couple of miles outside Mullingar. What you are correct about though is that, yes, Jackson loved his time at Grouse Lodge. The owner of Grouse Lodge, Paddy Dunning, said in an an interview with the Westmeath Examiner that Jackson was one of the nicest, most down-to-earth people he’d ever met and was a devoted father to his nice, well-mannered kids. He loved the peace and quiet of the lakes and countryside around Mullingar and his frequent trips into the town itself! Mad but true. Granted, trying to make himself ‘white’, the excessive plastic surgery, the infamous baby-dangling incident and his friendships with children (was it more than friendship? We will never really know) shows someone not entirely in touch with reality but Dunning’s recollections reveal Jackson had a normal side too.

    As for his music, well ‘Thriller’ is the pop equivalent of ‘Sgt Pepper..’ or ‘Dark side of the Moon’ or ‘Blonde on Blonde’ or ‘After the goldrush’, a landmark album, a masterpiece of its genre (although Quincy Jones has a large part to play in this), the first album we ever had in our house growing up. The video for ‘Thriller’ gave me nightmares for months after I saw it as a kid on MT USA. It was shown in the afternoon! Unfortunately, he went completely shit from ‘Bad’ onwards….

    Jim mentioned Stuart from Mogwai’s Twitter comment about all this..Stuart also said, in a slightly tongue-in-cheek way, that this is ‘Pop’s 9/11!!’…there’s some truth in that though. We’re gonna be hearing about this for an awful long time to come.

    Comment by Quint
    54.
    June 26, 2009
    5:47 pm

    Katty@49 -’No way does this man deserve the sort of media attention given to Kennedy, 9/11, Princess Di’

    You ARE joking, yes? Definitely not as much as 9/11 or JFK but Di? What the fuck did she do in her life except be a parasite on the British taxpayer, have affairs and generally spend her days doing sweet fuck all? At least, Mick Jackson gave us some timeless pop music.

    Comment by Quint
    55.
    June 26, 2009
    6:10 pm

    I just want to know, who is going to give me bananas?

    Comment by Bubbles
    56.
    June 26, 2009
    7:11 pm
    57.
    June 26, 2009
    8:21 pm

    Have very mixed feelings about this whole thing.
    The guy was a genius there is no question of that – Billie Jean was one of the first videos I ever saw on Sunday on MTV (over at a friends house because of course we had only the two channels,RTE1 and 2, of course, at the time) and it remains in my Top 5. I had the jacket from Beat It. I was a mixed race (black) kid growing up in Monkstown in the ‘80 and MJ was one of the few black stars that everyone loved; he was a positive force who bought joy to millions.

    For me personally he was one of the very few positive black images I came across at the time. In a sea of on-screen ho’s, pimps, criminals, crack heads, “sports” stars, and gangstas – there was MJ.

    And then it went horribly wrong – so horribly, tragically wrong. What he did to his face; makes my soul weep.

    Such talent, such sadness.

    But I will try and remember him for the music.

    Comment by Siobhan
    58.
    June 26, 2009
    10:16 pm

    Good man Quint, the hysteria here in the US is reaching Princess Di proportions and equally unhinged from reality. While he contributed way more than Di (at least in pop culture) the fact that he had at best inappropriate contact with kids down through the years will forever tarnish his legacy. The only reason he was never convicted was he had the same high powered lawyers that got OJ off, anyone want to defend him?

    Comment by Donal
    59.
    June 27, 2009
    12:23 am

    Obviously the product of a weird family situation but it can’t be denied that he had a huge imapact on the ‘pop’ scene. MJ definitely made the ‘dance thing’ part and parcel of the whole MTV thingy. Gone were the statues and suddenly you have this gyrating moonwalking freak! His music , self pennend wasn’t too bad either! RIP
    (Hope we don’t have the Elvis type conspiracy theorists claiming MJ just took the easty way out and ‘faked it’! One is enough!

    Comment by Just an opinion
    60.
    June 27, 2009
    12:39 am

    BTW – Forgot to compliment Jim Carroll on his articles in the IT – The ‘real stuff’ Jim Boy! – Keep up the good work!

    Comment by Just an opinion
    61.
    June 27, 2009
    4:59 am

    In 1990 I was 4 years old. Thriller had been out 7/8 years.
    And this was the music that was still getting played in my house. The impact he made on music is astonishing. It is not to be underestimated.
    He is the biggest cultural icon of I don’t know how many years. Definitely the biggest artist of my lifetime by an absolute mile.
    I have never had any interest in dancing on any level but Christ, whenever I saw a Jackson video on TV as a kid, I tried to emulate every single move I saw.
    He was a genius within his field. Racial barriers were torn apart thanks to Michael.
    Now is a time to reflect on the musical history of this ridiculously talented individual and nothing more.

    Comment by Pedro
    62.
    June 27, 2009
    10:05 pm

    I have to say, I think certain lines in the Pitchfork obit linked to above are offensive because they are misleading, it’s very poor journalism. In the paragraph about the abuse allegations they baldly state that he was a child molester:

    “from all available evidence, he did things that everyone agrees are beyond the pale”

    From all available evidence, he was acquitted in court. There is no hard evidence of any wrongdoing, other than testimonies of the accusers; if there were, he’d be banged up in jail. Whatever happened to innocent unless proven guilty?

    “Jackson maintained his innocence. But no one’s luck is that bad.”

    This statement flatly proclaims that he was not innocent, and therefore denounces him as a child molester. WTF? Who granted some online hack the permission to act as judge and jury, this whole palaver of trial by mass media is sickening. All anybody can do is speculate, but they are presenting speculation as fact and I think that’s *really* wrong. For the love of God, where’s the humanity.

    Nobody knows the truth except the accusers and the man himself who has brought it to his grave. It is unlikely anyone else will ever know for sure whether he was innocent or guilty, there is nothing solid to condemn or vindicate him. The sole possibility is that either someone will come forward with hard evidence of abuse (eg footage/ photos/ tangible proof, as opposed to testimony) or else that one of his accusers will one day reveal that the allegations were fraud cooked up by their parents for financial gain. As there is a laughably miniscule chance we’ll witness either one of these scenarios, it will remain one of the great dark mysteries of the last century. If he was guilty, it is shocking and sad that he got away with it and it adds a layer of sinister complexity to his emotionally charged body of work. If he was innocent, it makes his life story one of the most tragic I’ve ever encountered, like the injustice in The Shawshank Redemption x1000.

    In proper obits like Jim’s one it is made clear that he was alleged/suspected of abuse rather than condemned as guilty of it. People have the right to make up their own minds, whichever side they choose to believe, rather than be force-fed opinion as fact. It’s a pity, because that Pitchfork obit was otherwise a good read, but I can’t respect a journalist who has such low regard for the truth as the guy who wrote it. Shame on him.

    Comment by trilby
    63.
    June 29, 2009
    10:26 am

    @Quint

    Portlaoise. Mullingar. It’s all the same to an ignorant jackeen like myself. There’s Dublin and the other bits.

    Anyhows, just googled them and they give Moate as the nearest village.

    Comment by Matt Vinyl/The Golden Maverick
    64.
    June 29, 2009
    11:40 pm

    @62 – Well said, Trilby, I had the exact same problem with the Pitchfork piece. But then there’s often a whiff of omniscience off pieces on that particular website

    Comment by Kieran
    65.
    July 1, 2009
    10:38 am

    Interesting writings from a guy who covered the child molestation trial as a journalist:
    http://classicalgeektheatre.blogspot.com/

    Comment by Michael
    66.
    July 1, 2009
    9:15 pm

    a mix paying homage to his soul music

    http://djstevieg.podomatic.com/entry/eg/2009-07-01T10_35_24-07_00

    Comment by Stevie G
    67.
    July 7, 2009
    11:35 pm

    Hey. I was at Michael’s HIStory concert in the RDS, Dublin. July 1997. I havent seen much footage except sum low quality video. If anyone has photos of that gig I would love to see them. I have a few myself will gladly post/swap them across email. just wanna see more from the show I was at. dont hesitate to contact me via my MySpace site above
    cheers all

    Craig

    Comment by Craig M
    68.
    November 7, 2009
    12:58 am

    I LOVE MICHAEL JACKSON N WILL MISS HIM VERY MUCH HE WILL ALWAYS REMAIN VERY SPECIAL TO MY HEART REST IN PEACE MIKE MAYBE NOW PEOPLE WILL LEAVE U ALONE GOD BLESS X X X

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