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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: October 20, 2008 @ 12:40 pm

    Great issues of our age

    Jim Carroll

    No Age. Damn, they were good. Their appearance in the middle of the Drowned In Sound Shred Yr Face triple-bill in Whelan’s on Friday last put the cork on it for me – they are the ones who are really pushing things forward. If you haven’t already succumbed to the joyous put-blood-in-the-music thrillganza of their “Nouns” album, what the hell are you waiting for? Great turn-out for them too – met a ton of folks I hadn’t seen in ages (no, ages etc). Times New Viking were awesome too. Didn’t hang around for Los Campesinos. Did I miss anything?

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    Gomorra. Go see right away. One of the finest flicks of the year.

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    Gerry Ryan. Enough already. You know he has a book out, right? You can’t escape the damn thing. Bet there isn’t even a mention of the purple underpants in it. One interesting snippet which did emerge from the Ryan Tubridy v Gerry Ryan interview the other night (good to see that RTE are spending our licence fee so well, isn’t it?) was that Ryan once wrote a letter to the editor of this here paper giving out about a Shane Hegarty review of his lousy TV show. G Ryan even got a reply too – the editor telling him basically to cop on and take it on the chin.

    Ger Loughnane. Anyone seen sight or sound of him since last week?

    Liverpool’s weekly comeback. Great entertainment but shocking for the aul’ nerves.

    The withdrawal of automatic entitlement to a medical card for the over 70s. Imagine the very worst fuming you can from the ranks of Radiohead, Arcade Fire, Oasis and AC/DC fans about, oh, anything at all. Now, double it. Add a couple of zeros at the end. Multiply by the amount of money Irish banks won’t be getting back from developers any time soon. Now, treble that. And you’re still not even close to the sum total of stupidity behind that budgetary snip. Bet Bertie Ahern is having a grand old snigger at this one.

  • 42 Comments

    1.
    October 20, 2008
    12:56 pm

    Jim, to answer your question, no you didn’t as Los Camp! ended up being a damp squib (or is it squid, never sure) – from students to the dole queue methinks. And I agree wholeheartedly with you on No Age, what a performance – amazing stuff. Missed Times New Viking as they seemed to play at lunchtime or something.

    Comment by hugger
    2.
    October 20, 2008
    1:15 pm

    Wasn’t too keen on LC!, loved Times New Viking and thought No Age were a bit hit and miss…

    Seems many punters got mixed up by the running order on the posters, the door times being earlier than on the tickets, and missed TNV as a result.

    Comment by flynnduism
    3.
    October 20, 2008
    1:41 pm

    Sound was dire for Los Campesinos. Vocals were inaudible. Poor violinist was plugging away in what was purely an exercise in mime.

    Jenny Lewis last night though. Awesome.

    Comment by PaulMc
    4.
    October 20, 2008
    2:13 pm

    hopefully the scousers will give the mighty blues a 2 goal head start this sunday

    Comment by petee
    5.
    October 20, 2008
    2:24 pm

    Gomorra is amazing. One of those extremely rare films where murderers, gangsters and criminals are not shown in a romantic or heroic light. Here, they are ugly, fat, cowardly, pathetic and repugnant. The other side of Italy and it looks like hell on earth. There is no score throughout the film but there’s an incredible, explosive track that comes out of nowhere at the end credits…waited right until the end of the credits to see who it was: Massive Attack’s Robert Del Naja, aka 3D, of course. Who else.
    Can’t seem to download it from anywhere but it’s streaming on Massive Attack website…

    As for Liverpool, they’re just about hanging in there – it’s only a matter of time though before they drop away from the main title contenders (Utd and Chelsea), Arsenal also…it’s gonna be a two – horse race again come the Spring…As much as I despise Chelsea, they seem invincible at the moment and after their now obligatory ’slow-start’ Man U’s clinical demolition of West Brom will put fear of God into every other team. They’re back.

    Comment by Quint
    6.
    October 20, 2008
    2:28 pm

    I thought Los Campesinos were very impressive.

    No Age were alright. I really like the album but I don’t see what was so special?

    Constantly retuning his guitar, it seemed slightly shambolic and not in an endearing way at all?

    Maybe I’m just not that impressed by loud noise :)

    Comment by Niall
    7.
    October 20, 2008
    2:32 pm

    No Age were savage good – I only checked them out cos of the constant mentions here and I was glad I did. Picked up the album afterwards too and am really impressed by it – good call.

    Was also surpsied by Times New Viking – expected them to be a lot more noisy and feedbacky. Thought Los Campesinos were the worst pile of twee nonsense I’ve seen in an age

    “Maybe I’m just not that impressed by loud noise”

    If its too loud, you’re too old.

    Comment by Insider Trading
    8.
    October 20, 2008
    2:36 pm

    It wasn’t that loud where I was.

    Comment by Niall
    9.
    October 20, 2008
    2:39 pm

    Quint, your description reminds me of 30 Days of Night a Vampire film based on the graphic novel by Steve Niles. It doesn’t romanticise Vampires at all. Here they are ugly psychotic killers. Danny Huston is incredible as head vamp Marlow. There is no score throughout the entire film. And it looks amazing. It looks like a graphic novel on the big screen. That’s down to the mighty Jo Willems, the director of photography for the film. And guess what, he’s only bloody from Dublin…!
    Why I decided to write all of that, I have no idea.

    Los Capesinos were shit-shit-shit. Dull and twee.
    No Age were the shit-shit-shit. Amazing band.
    I like loud raucous music driven by drums and off-kilter vocals on a Friday night, and No Age did it perfectly.
    Great to see it sold out too.

    Comment by Pedro
    10.
    October 20, 2008
    2:47 pm

    hugger – TNV came on at 8pm sharp. Great to see bang-on time-keeping

    flynnduism – saw the 8pm start time for TNV plugged all over the place on Friday

    petee – i’m thinking more like chelsea 1, liverpool 2

    Quint – it really does unglamorise all that mafia bullshit (a bit like Donnie Brasco did?) and shows you just how so much widespread corruption leads to a terminally poor and messed-up country.

    This is liverpool’s best start to a season in AGES – sure, it might only last a few weeks but hasnt there already been a liverpool 2, man-u 1 result this season

    niall – that wasn’t loud!

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    11.
    October 20, 2008
    2:57 pm

    ‘This is liverpool’s best start to a season in AGES – sure, it might only last a few weeks but hasnt there already been a liverpool 2, man-u 1 result this season’

    True, but one was an own goal and they got their other goal as a direct result of a stupid mistake by Ryan Giggs…but, yes it is good start but I don’t think they have enough good players to sustain this good run for the next 7 months. Same with Arsenal.

    Holy Fuck tonight!!

    Comment by Quint
    12.
    October 20, 2008
    3:01 pm

    Mahjongg and Not Squares upstairs in whelans after TNR and No Age was excellent fun!

    Comment by Darren
    13.
    October 20, 2008
    3:04 pm

    True, but one was an own goal and they got their other goal as a direct result of a stupid mistake by Ryan Giggs

    I dont think I’ll ever tire of reading United fans justifying losses like that ;-)

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    14.
    October 20, 2008
    3:18 pm

    I dont think I’ll ever tire of reading United fans justifying losses like that ;)

    I don’t think I’ll ever get bored of Liverpool fans convincing themselves that this is “their year.”

    Comment by Pedro
    15.
    October 20, 2008
    3:20 pm

    Hahahahaha – I think you’ll be looking for quite some time on this blog to see me trying to convince myself that this is “our” year.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    16.
    October 20, 2008
    3:22 pm

    The medical card thing is one of the biggest blunders FF have suffered for years – then again they dug their own grave by granting it in the first place.

    The opposition are loving it though – I’m not long back from a local authority meeting where an opp. councillor accused the government of ‘introducing euthanasia through the back door’ – the type of conspiracy theory hysteria that would make a disgruntled ticketless AC/DC fan blush.

    Comment by Joe
    17.
    October 20, 2008
    3:27 pm

    Los Campesinos were wonderful, as always. I tend to think they’re simply not American enough for some people around here, singing in their clipped, educated English accents and all. If they were from Brooklyn or Baltimore, the same people would be throwing superlatives at them from the balcony.

    Comment by Johnnie
    18.
    October 20, 2008
    3:29 pm

    Darren, Mahjongg and Not Squares upstairs was indeed a triumph. Good one, Maximum Joy & Skinny Wolves :)

    Times New Viking were superb. Live, minus the layers of fuzz, the melodies really come to the fore. I love the fuzz on record though.

    Comment by Fiona
    19.
    October 20, 2008
    3:32 pm

    I tend to think they’re simply not American enough for some people around here, singing in their clipped, educated English accents and all

    Johnnie – I thought they were Welsh?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    20.
    October 20, 2008
    3:35 pm

    They are all English bar one, who is Russian. They met at Cardiff University. The same way that Snore Patrol used to be a Scottish band before they discovered they could win more awards by claiming all local territories… ;)

    Comment by Johnnie
    21.
    October 20, 2008
    3:41 pm

    The same way that Snore Patrol used to be a Scottish band before they discovered they could win more awards by claiming all local territories

    The things bands do to get Meteor awards, eh?

    I stand corrected on Los Campesinos’ geographical roots.

    Now, back to the action

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    22.
    October 20, 2008
    3:42 pm

    I too am enjoying this weekly Liverpool comebacks but like Jim, am not going to succumb to any “we’re going to win the league” blabbering. I nervously await Sunday’s game against Chelski.

    Jim – one of the great issues of our time really is should Tipperary keep picking their captain from the county champions? was at the match yesterday, and can’t see many Toome players making Liam Sheedy’s team next year.

    Comment by Ciarán
    23.
    October 20, 2008
    3:42 pm

    Los Campesinos were wonderful, as always. I tend to think they’re simply not American enough for some people around here, singing in their clipped, educated English accents and all. If they were from Brooklyn or Baltimore, the same people would be throwing superlatives at them from the balcony.

    Hahahahahaha!!
    What is it with people around here thinking that if you dislike a band, it must have something to do with the fact that said band is not part of some cool “scene” like B-More or Brooklyn.
    My personal opinion is that they’re a nothing band who I think are ferociously bland.
    And this has nothing to do with the fact that they don’t hang out with TVOTR in Brooklyn or go around to Animal Collective’s gaff in B-More for some tea and crumpets.

    Comment by Pedro
    24.
    October 20, 2008
    3:59 pm

    ciaran – saw some of the game on TG4 and thought it was poor. The Toomevara manager made some pitches afterwards for Liam Sheedy to consider some of the players – I think it was probably Brislane and his goals – but can’t see that happening. Be interesting to see how they do against Adare next day out.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    25.
    October 20, 2008
    4:23 pm

    Ger Loughnane, high-profile big-money Trap/Capello-style appointment as manager of the Kerry hurlers. You heard it* here first ;D

    (*it = baseless, unfounded rumour)

    Comment by aidan
    26.
    October 20, 2008
    4:56 pm

    “ciaran – saw some of the game on TG4 and thought it was poor. The Toomevara manager made some pitches afterwards for Liam Sheedy to consider some of the players – I think it was probably Brislane and his goals – but can’t see that happening. Be interesting to see how they do against Adare next day out.”

    Is this the Nenagh Guardian blog that i’m on these days? If so could someone bring me up to speed on Sunday’s parish notices? When is the last day to put my name down for the pilgrimage to Medjugorje?

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    27.
    October 20, 2008
    4:58 pm

    Matt – stay quiet or we’ll send you back to the Motor Tax Office

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    28.
    October 20, 2008
    5:33 pm

    What’s so cool about Baltimore or Brooklyn? I didn’t een know there was a “scene” there

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman
    29.
    October 20, 2008
    7:28 pm

    No love for Spiritualized on here? Saw them last night at (a scandalously half-full and very subdued) Vicar Street, they were bloody awesome, the best of the four or five times I’ve caught them live. New stuff sounded much better live than on record, Jason was on good form too – he almost smiled at one point, and he was even standing up!

    Comment by Neill
    30.
    October 20, 2008
    7:43 pm

    Jim – If only. I’d love that.

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    31.
    October 20, 2008
    8:13 pm

    RE: the Brooklyn scene, check out this track by Plastic Little: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4wejlb

    Comment by UnaRocks
    32.
    October 20, 2008
    8:14 pm

    I thought Los Campesinos! were great. The sound was a bit poor, but they more than made up for it with their enthusiasm towards the end. I missed all of Times New Viking and half of No Age, what with the madness that was a gig starting at the advertised time.

    Comment by Lenny
    33.
    October 21, 2008
    12:22 am
    34.
    October 21, 2008
    12:46 pm

    “Los Capesinos were shit-shit-shit. Dull and twee.
    No Age were the shit-shit-shit. Amazing band.”

    Caught the same Los Camps/No Age/TNV show in London last night and totally agree that the headliners are just plain annoying.. can’t see the attraction.

    No Age weren’t as completely amazing as I thought they’d be but still did enough to prove they’re easily one of the best bands about at the minute. Nouns = Album Of The Year – The Midnight Organ Fight

    Comment by Padraic
    35.
    October 21, 2008
    1:40 pm

    Quint @ 5 – i totally agree with you on Gomorra. very well made movie. I’ve also read that some of the actors are a little bit too close to the real thing – some of them are being investigated by the police.

    Saw it last friday at the Lighthouse, shame there was only about 15-20 people there, then i suppose it’s not that surprising.

    also that Massive attack piece was striking.

    Comment by garethh
    36.
    October 21, 2008
    3:12 pm

    “Saw it last friday at the Lighthouse, shame there was only about 15-20 people there, then i suppose it’s not that surprising.”

    the Lighthouse really need to cop on or else the place is going to go tits up. I don’t understand why they don’t do more fun things, special screenings, film club stuff (maybe they do, correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.) Or they should make like the Everyman theatre and do table service or something.

    Comment by unarocks
    37.
    October 21, 2008
    7:55 pm

    Gareth@35, yeah, 2 of the ‘actors’ have actually been arrested since the film was made…extremely hard to differentiate between fiction and reality with that film, a lot of the actors in that film were genuinely sinister….

    Went to the Lighthouse Cinema to see ‘Man On Wire’, as an architectural concept full marks but it’s a little sterile and I honestly don’t know how they can compete with IFI and The Screen cinema for bums on seats, etc. Bit of a trek to get there, not to mention having to avoid all tramps and junkies in that general area…

    Comment by Quint
    38.
    October 22, 2008
    10:22 am

    Una@36 – It’s a beautiful cinema but if there’s no one going to it then its days are numbered. They need to do a bit of a Sugar Club on it and get some more stuff going on there.

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    39.
    October 22, 2008
    10:27 am

    Re the Lighthouse, easily head and shoulders above all the other cinemas in town (especially the crummy IFI) but it’s just not getting the business in. Any time I’ve gone to see a film there, the cinema has just not been busy. Is it just the case that people think it’s too far from the centre? Such a shame.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    40.
    October 22, 2008
    12:02 pm

    The IFCO are doubtless helping with the rent in the Lighthouse but it’s always, always dead, as is Read’s next door. Am guessing both of ‘em signed up to the Smithfield “promise” of gourmet burger bars, quirky shops and so on – none of which have materialised. It’s a real ghost town after 7pm.

    Comment by Catherine
    41.
    October 22, 2008
    2:27 pm

    No Age – The reason I went in the first place, my one problem – they weren’t in the headline slot.
    sounded loud, wore O’Neills jacket, showed humour in forced interruptions, generally rocked.
    Eraser had that ‘get the smile on’ factor but the whole set was a good experience in noise adventure. I missed them earlier in the year, hope they can return before too long for another show.

    Times New Viking – I wouldn’t mind if these guys came along for the ride next time as well.
    A loud furious font, I only caught two of their songs, being that they were first on and I was, well, late. Enjoyed the brief introduction to Ohio’s next big thing.

    Los C – no. did not like. The Gareth singer seemed affected and his tone had a grating affect on my sober brain. Left after two and a half of their songs, maybe it got better, though maybe it didn’t. They looked pleasant enough, I suppose.

    Comment by trolley races
    42.
    October 23, 2008
    9:47 am

    pedro, for me, you blow your whole defensive argument out of the water by calling the place B-more…

    excuse me?

    Comment by Ally

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