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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: October 2, 2009 @ 8:43 pm

    Ireland paves the way for Tony Blair?

    Jamie Smyth

     

    Well, polling day is finally upon us. Thank god because I’m not sure I could face writing another article about the intricacies of the Lisbon treaty. One contact in a political party in Ireland told me at 7pm tonight their private exit poll is for a 60 – 40 yes vote. I think it will pass ok, but I suspect it may be closer.

    I think Czech president Vaclav Klaus will also be forced to sign- it’s not easy to stand alone against 26 states when your own parliament has already ratified a treaty. This means Lisbon entering into force by January 1st 2010 and the nomination of the first European Council president.

    I’m just back from meetings with a few senior EU diplomats and a top commission official, who all say their money is squarely behind former British prime minister Tony Blair for the plum job. The British are pushing him hard. Sarkozy seems to be awestruck by the suave French speaking Brit and even Merkel is apparently softening her stance- in part because there are few other high calibre candidates.

    Personally I’m not so sure Blair will survive the horse trading that goes on in choosing any top EU job. But all the speculation begs the question would Blair he be any good at it?

    Blair is clearly talented and a wonderful communicator. He was instrumental in making the Labour party electable once again and everyone in Brussels remembers his fine pro-European speech to the European parliament at the start of the Britain’s EU presidency. But despite all the fine words about Europe when he was prime minister he never attempted to tackle euroscepticism in Britain. 

    Blair is a chameleon, according to people who have done business with him. “When you sit down with him he usually tells you exactly what you want to hear but whether you ever get what you want is another thing,” says one source. That’s probably one of the skills that helped him manage the peace talks in Northern Ireland, which must go down as his single best achievement to date. In fact, Blair as president of Europe would suit Ireland. He has done more for British-Irish relations than probably any other British leader. His wife and kids have Irish passports. And he even managed to apologise for the Irish famine! 

    But I’m simply not convinced he can be forgiven for teaming up with George Bush to invade Iraq. This decision cost hundreds of thousands of lives in Iraq and led to the deaths of thousands of British and American soldiers. It also deeply divided the EU and raises questions about Blair’s commitment to Europe.  He also has another Iraq inquiry hanging over his head in Britain. Will EU leaders risk giving such a controversial figure the first go at European Council president?

     The job is unelected but public opinion across Europe may not be quite as enthused about Blair as Europe’s current crop of leaders. A charismatic figure like Blair may stretch the mandate of the job, which is meant to be more of a figurehead than an activist president. This could be bad for small member states, which see the European Commission as their ally when it comes to defending their interests against the big 3- France, Germany and Britain.  

    Finally, would Blair be the right man when it comes to dealing with a eurosceptic David Cameron-led government? Some say he could act as the bridge to bring Britain back from the cold. But I suspect Cameron may find it difficult to make the type of compromises he will be called upon to make with Blair in the top seat.  Maybe the EU should walk before it starts to run with this job- forget the superstar and appoint a backroom boy like Balkenende, Gonzalez or Junker.

  • 32 Comments »

    1.
    October 2, 2009
    9:01 pm

    The leaders of the big nation won’t want a high profile, ‘charismatic’ style leader, stealing their limelight. Especially one that has a ‘war criminal’ tag. A past it ex-administrator type is surely more likely? Gonzalez I’d say.

    It’s a pity they can’t give it to Putin…

    Comment by dealga
    2.
    October 2, 2009
    10:07 pm

    Giving “Phony Tony” the credit for the peace process in Northern Ireland when it belongs to others such as John Major and Mo Mowlam (and particularly the many unsung heroes behind the scenes) says it all.

    It would be an affront to natural justice if the war-mongering poodle is rewarded with the President’s job, but I suppose one more unelected official isn’t going to make a difference among the thousands of other unelected officials struggling to survive on their tax free incomes and generous expenses.

    The real shame is that after hundreds of years struggling to gain their independence and sovereignty, the Irish are just about to give it away with not so much as a whimper. Let Europe be about freedom of trade and capital and not about centralisation of power in the hands of the Politb-EUro.

    Comment by viennavisitor
    3.
    October 2, 2009
    10:42 pm

    He’s a murdering lying bastard what more do you need to control a new Rough Beast qua Military Congressional Industrial complex? I wonder is he a mediocre watercolourist too?

    Comment by Kynos
    4.
    October 3, 2009
    12:40 am

    Hundreds of thousands of lives. How about 1.3 million? To be a little more specific.http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq

    Comment by Kynos
    5.
    October 3, 2009
    2:54 am

    Tony Blair promised to bring Britain to the heart of Europe, but he failed to deliver.

    Under a new Tory government, the UK’s relations with Europe will go from bad to worse.

    Neither the country nor the man deserves a top job in the European Union.

    Comment by Ralf Grahn
    6.
    October 3, 2009
    5:40 am

    I agree Jamie, Blair would be a disaster.

    We are so screwed, let’s hope Mr. Klaus can pull some sort of magic out of the hat.

    Comment by dodgy phil
    7.
    October 3, 2009
    6:01 am

    If the Lisbon Treaty got all the yes votes good from Ireland, then you can pretty much kiss the sovereignty of Ireland goodbye. Ireland’s powers as a democratic nation-state would be fundamentally weakened on the international stage and then it would simply cease to be. Then, for the first time in the long Irish history, the country will be ruled by a power overseas and all the Irish people has no say over it.

    As an American who has Irish heritage, I would be very sad for Ireland.

    Comment by Bob
    8.
    October 3, 2009
    8:02 am

    viennavisitor: Giving “Phony Tony” the credit for the peace process in Northern Ireland when it belongs to others such as John Major

    Come again? I remember Major’s intransigence over decomissioning led to the breakdown of the IRA ceasefire. He introduced decomissioning as a pre-condition to talks after the ceasefire, caused two years of stalemate and billions of pounds in damage to the British economy (not to mention lives lost) gambling the IRA would suffer that breach of good-faith. He was a pathetic mover in the peace process.

    As for Blair, Kynos is right. A man who took the newfound dreams of millions of Brits and twisted them into an awful orthodoxy that ended up in lies and mass murder. A truly despicable man.

    Right… time to grab a coffee to wash down that acidic feeling in the back of my neck…

    Comment by Steve K
    9.
    October 3, 2009
    9:52 am

    He has all the integrity of a counterfeit antibiotic, Steve. Offering the promise of recovery yet more dangerous than the infection itself. A truly filthy human being. I judge him even more harshly than Bush, because George is a simpleton, an idiot, a puppet not even elected but installed in order to forward the agenda of his controllers, Cheney, Daddy Bush, Wolfowitz, Perle, and the rest of that scum. But Tony is intelligent, not merely a marionette, someone capable of moral choices, an independent leader who, as you say, in the aftermath of the terrible tragic loss of that decent decent man John Smith, picked up the broken dreams of decent Labour voters and promised to mend them. And then the nasty shit turned and betrayed ever principle of Labour there ever was, rolling Britain into a vicious appalling genocidal holocaust of innocence because he didn’t have the moral backbone to turn to BUSHCO and say Vade retro Satanus. Oh much may he pray and prate and beat his breast in his new-found religious faith. By God if that bastard goes anywhere other than the Hot Place there’s hope for Hitler and Stalin and Mao. I’m committed to non-violence but if Blair ever got near my arm’s reach I’ll swing for the bastard.
    Whew. That feels better.

    Comment by Kynos
    10.
    October 3, 2009
    2:52 pm

    People like Blair should be given a message about his participation in the murders of tens of thousands of innocent people. Unfortunately the moral consequences have not yet caught up with him with others like Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. Perhaps they never will. Robert McNamara, a primary architect of the Vietnam War, died recently. Nothing happened to him but it’s reported he did at least consider the moral consequences of the war through the years You won’t see that from Blair. A rejection would be one way of giving the message.

    Comment by Pablo
    11.
    October 3, 2009
    3:22 pm

    A rejection would be a good message for the moral consequence of helping in a useless and illegal war that took the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. It’s too bad there isn’t a way to pass on this message to his compatriots Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. too. There are few opportunities to do something like this with these types of people. Robert McNamara died recently. He was a major architect of the Vietnam War. He at least thought about the moral consequences of that war. Blair won’t until he’s given a clear message. If he becomes president, what does that say about what you voted for?

    Comment by Pablo
    12.
    October 3, 2009
    6:18 pm

    I’m not one to judge on whether anyone’s waveform ends up dissapating as heat. And even then all the information that once constituted them and their lives remains within the Universe. If its closed maybe it’ll all come together again one day. Enuf metafizzics. Nobody’s beyond redemption that’s what we’re taught so if Blair became a Catholic to find some after what he’d done, him and BUSHCO, then he’s as likely to go to a good place – given there is one – as anyone. Metanoia. But the thing is that it’s still going on. What’s Blair? Middle East peace envoy. They don’t do irony better than that.

    Comment by Kynos
    13.
    October 3, 2009
    10:30 pm

    Kynos, you don’t need to wilfully believe the most outlandish of Iraq casualty figures to make what happened there a crime. 100,000 is the most accurate figure we have.

    http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

    1.3 million is statistical sleight of hand based on poor surveying techniques.

    You can make your point without wishing there were another 1.2 million dead Iraqis to support it.

    Comment by dealga
    14.
    October 3, 2009
    10:31 pm

    “Then, for the first time in the long Irish history, the country will be ruled by a power overseas and all the Irish people has no say over it.”

    Er Bob, am I reading that right? You need to buy a couple of Wolfe Tones cds or buy something from the Mary Lou’s Online Shinner Emporium or something.

    Comment by dealga
    15.
    October 4, 2009
    12:10 am

    Haha Kynos I could kiss you. Glad to know there are others who share this bitter view of Blair.

    Comment by Steve K
    16.
    October 4, 2009
    5:46 am

    Blair will thank you for the “Yes” vote by sending your sons to war.

    Comment by John
    17.
    October 4, 2009
    10:08 am

    There is a petition to stop tony Blair becoming president of the EU. He has scammed mountains of the taxpayers’ money from us and shredded all his expenses before he left Downing Street so what does that tell us? If he becomes President, he will gain millions more – he is a real “Tricky Dicky”. There is also a petition for Brown’s resignation and that one closes 22 October.

    gopetition.com/petitions/stopblair.html
    Stop Blair becoming President of the European Union

    petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/
    We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to resign.
    Deadline to sign up by: 22 October 2009

    Get signing and encourage your friends to do so, if they don’t like Blair. Thousands more signatures needed and they are now beginning to come in faster.

    gopetition.com/petitions/stopblair.html
    Stop Blair becoming President of the European Union

    petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/
    We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to resign.
    Deadline to sign up by: 22 October 2009

    Get signing and encourage your friends to do so if. they don’t like Blair. Thousands more signatures needed and they are now beginning to come in faster.

    Comment by Isabel
    18.
    October 4, 2009
    4:33 pm

    Blair is an incredible divisive and polarising figure and appointing him President of the EU would be a sick joke. Any serious moves to pave the way for his appointment would immediately address any apathy there may be on the part of the European public towards the EU as there would be unprecedented public revulsion and interest in ensuring that this war maker does not represent the EU. The arrogant Blair has also let it be known that he will only announce his candidature if he is ensured of winning. Hopefully common sense will prevail and a candidate will emerge, more in tune will the views of the people of Europe.

    Comment by Dave
    19.
    October 4, 2009
    7:57 pm

    take your point dealga 1 would be a warcrime all evidence considered and forged or total absence thereof;. 100,000 is 100,000 warcrimes as well as murders. Not wishing it friend. No more than the scholars who find 6 million murdered Jews possibly a lot more each and every day though there’s well less than 500,000 death certificates. First casualty of war is truth and on the matter of deaths in holocausts numbers aren’t important really however huge they turn out to be homo homini lupus est after that it’s statistics.

    Comment by Kynos
    20.
    October 4, 2009
    7:59 pm

    More bitter because once I really liked him and thought he’d be an agent of great change. Of course he was and great is a word of several meanings. It’d be a judas kiss Steve K no offence mate they always are over such matters. :(

    Comment by Kynos
    21.
    October 5, 2009
    1:46 pm

    YOUR ELECTION WAS RIGGED BY STUFFING THE BALLOT BOXES …WORK BY THE US CIA….YOUR ELECTION IS AND WAS A FRAUD….WAKE UP NOTICE THE ELECTION DELIVERY OF BOXES RULES VIOLATIONS AND INVESTIGATE IMMEDIATELY…..IT WAS A CON ON THE PEOPLE……….INVESTIGATE THE IRREGULARTIES OF VOTER BOX DELIVERIES TO THE VOTING STATION ETC..

    Comment by chrles sweeney
    22.
    October 5, 2009
    2:20 pm

    Well this is what the people voted for.

    Comment by FutureTaoiseach
    23.
    October 5, 2009
    4:24 pm

    Ireland one of the most powerful little countries in the EU has become impotent by this vote. We now depend on qualified majority voting or the good humor of France and Germany as we have no veto.

    We have voted for Cowen for Blair for NAMA What were the people thinking? The Irish votes were bought and those that could not be bought were got by preaching fear and job calamity . Though one job will soon to be created for a Mr. Pat Cox who campaigned very hard to become our new Commissioner!

    We have paved the way for BLAIR a man who is responsible for absolutely wrecking the UK. For wrecking the UK we make him president of the EU a post which is created for him. The politics of failure and institutional corruption will bring more failures.

    Ireland has yielded up most of its constitution in large measure too its freedom!

    Comment by ROBERT BROWNE
    24.
    October 5, 2009
    4:43 pm

    Having Blair as President of the EU is like having the Olympics in London.This is the closest Ireland will get to the EU presidency.
    It would be of great benefit to Ireland to get a household name such as Blair,a catholic convert and a modern Brit who accepts his own countries limitations and has put the colonial times behind him ; a man that would represent all anglophones on these islands with great dignity and respect.Blair is a slick and intelligent politician,who is trying to shake off the association of his legacy with the unjustified and paranoid Irak war and erase the links with the most ridiculous of all U.S presidents,Bush.

    Comment by Esmeralda
    25.
    October 6, 2009
    2:25 am

    “But all the speculation begs the question would Blair he be any good at it?”

    No it doesn’t. You mean “prompts” or “raises the question”.

    To beg the question means to make a circular argument.

    Comment by anonymous
    26.
    October 6, 2009
    11:08 am

    The fact that B.Liar may have helped save 100s of lives on this island does not outweigh his major role in killing 100s of thousands and displacing millions in Iraq.

    Unless we prevent this self-deluding sociopath from becoming president we will give the anti-Lisbon voters confirmation of their genuine fears about the militarisation of Europe.

    Our best chance is to persuade the new Greek president to veto the idea. He is not in favour and Merkel is luke-warm. Write to him at info@primeminister.gr.

    The FF/Glasraí government will behave as expected on this matter – no need to say more.

    Also sign that petition at http://www.stopblair.eu

    Comment by Pope Epopt
    27.
    October 6, 2009
    1:44 pm

    I voted no because of this possiblity. This is the man who didn’t have the courage to convert to Catholicism while PM but didn’t think twice about killing thousands of innocent Iraqis.
    As so-called peace envoy of the big 4 he stood idly by while Gaza was being bombarded into the middle ages (no doubt the Israelis had promised him a free holiday).
    PLEASE don’t let him be EU President. The sight of him and his holier-than-thou attitude makes me puke!

    Comment by sholly
    28.
    October 6, 2009
    4:16 pm

    The reason,the real reason; he was a bum licker and now, now he is a catlick!

    Comment by eamons
    29.
    October 6, 2009
    4:17 pm

    The reason,the real reason? He was always a bum licker,but now, now he is a catlick.

    Comment by eamons
    30.
    October 6, 2009
    4:27 pm

    The reason is obvious.Blair was always a bum licker(Bush and co.) Now he is a catlick. Pope (Whatever his name is) and company.

    Comment by eamon
    31.
    October 6, 2009
    9:35 pm

    I will comment on neither Blair nor the Lisbon Treaty. I know enough to know that I don’t know enough; I haven’t been able to follow the situation as closely as I would have liked. BUT as an American whose father was born in Ireland, I pray for the well being of Ireland and that what is best for the State is what will happen in the outcome. The main reason I wanted to post in these comments is to apologize for “Bob’s” ignorance. I am embarrased to call myself an American (more and more lately. Hmmm.) when I see or hear an American who spouts about that which they do not know. So I am sorry for “Bob’s” ignorance. We are not all like that!

    Comment by Kristina Hudson
    32.
    October 7, 2009
    10:20 am

    Did by no means mean to send three of the same. A mistake. But the sentiment is clear,I believe.

    Comment by eamon

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