State of the Union

  • Libertas scores own goal in Poland

    May 18, 2009 @ 2:19 pm | by Jamie

     

    The Polish media have got wind of Libertas’ plan to stem the tide of Eastern Europeans coming to Ireland to work. The daily newspaper Rzeczpospolita carries a front page story on Libertas’ Caroline Simons’ suggestion that a new “blue card” (visa) system should be introduced to “reduce the burden to Ireland of caring for inhabitants of other member states”.

    Gazeta Wyborcza’s EU correspondent also notes on her blog that Ganley appears to have given up his “rather liberal (free-market I mean) economic outlook”. The policy won’t go down well in Poland where Libertas Poland is campaigning to remove the last remaining restrictions on freedom of movement of workers in Germany and Austria. The restrictions on working abroad (seven years is the maximum allowed under EU rules) introduced by many old member states when the ten new states joined the Union in 2004 has been a constant irritant for relations between old and new Europe. 

    The get tough on immigration policy peddled by Simons and her Libertas colleague Raymond O Malley bears all the hallmarks of Libertas spin doctor Lynton Crosbie, who helped John Howard win four Australian elections by raising fears about asylum seekers.

    Judging by the Irish Times poll last week, which showed Simons on 1 per cent, O’Malley on 3 per cent and Ganley on 9 per cent, Libertas have decided they must plumb the depths of populism to stand any chance of making an impact. But the contradictions in their platform are beginning to stack up.  

    Ganley says he is pro-European yet he cuddles up to the continent’s most prominent eurosceptics. He says he supports the EU’s internal market but then his Irish candidates say they want to stop freedom of movement. He calls on MEPs to publish their expenses yet drags his feet over saying how Libertas is funded.  

    This all begs the question: can we believe anything he says?

    PS Thanks to Mark for tipping me off that Libertas candidate Vladimir Zelezny will continue to stand in the European elections in the Czech Republic despite his conviction for tax evasion last week. He did tender his resignation but it was not accepted by the Libertas council, according to the Czech media.  

  • 26 Comments »

    1.
    May 18, 2009
    3:51 pm

    EU citizens resident here are entitled to vote in European elections aren’t they? I can just imagine other parties are rubbing their hands in glee with the prospect of being able to tell those voters of the plans of Libertas on this matter. Talk about a get out the vote issue.

    Comment by Dan Sullivan
    2.
    May 18, 2009
    4:09 pm

    Interesting but I would disagree that Libertas has only just turned to populism out of desperation. It is an opprobrious pic n’mix that has been defined by populism from the outset.

    Comment by Eddie
    3.
    May 18, 2009
    4:14 pm

    Thanks for highlighting this, Libertas are a danger to Ireland’s international image and standing. the idea that Irish people would need Blue cards to work north or south of the border is a remarkable attack on the Good Friday agreement.

    Comment by Libertas Nein Danke
    4.
    May 18, 2009
    5:22 pm

    Come on, is the Irish Times a newspaper, or a 3rd party campaigning group?

    Comment by John
    5.
    May 18, 2009
    7:06 pm

    It’s a good job that there wasn’t a branch of Libertas in the USA and the UK when the Irish went in their thousands.

    Good old Nazi propaganda.

    Comment by John
    6.
    May 18, 2009
    7:46 pm

    I’m just looking forward to the last-minute “Vote for Ganley” tour of the west by Dick Cheney.
    …And Crosbies doing spindoctoring? Surely not!

    Comment by Seán Leonard
    7.
    May 18, 2009
    8:02 pm

    It should be understood that Ganley has no control over Libertas Czechia. While claiming to be a pan-European party, in reality it looks more like the EP groups like the EPP, PES, ALDE etc. that the Dail parties are members of. In that context, Ganley is no more accountable for this than Cowen is for the ALDE group (which FF has just joined) having a pro-abortion stance on its website.

    Comment by Brian Boru
    8.
    May 18, 2009
    11:07 pm

    Why are we not surprised by those findings.

    And if I am not mistaken, the candidates on the Polish side are also not all what you might call “pro-European”.

    Comment by Julien
    9.
    May 19, 2009
    10:49 am

    I’d heard that the Irish Times was biased to the left. This bigotry confirms it. Have you never heard of “hear the other side”?

    Comment by British Oppressor
    10.
    May 19, 2009
    11:01 am

    about time i heard someone say there are to many east europeans here in ireland we have no work with the glut of cheep labour driving down wages and our standard of living its not rocket science to stop imagration into a small nation with a shortage of work

    Comment by terence brazil
    11.
    May 19, 2009
    11:31 am

    A vote for Libertas is a vote against Europe.

    Comment by SSJ
    12.
    May 19, 2009
    1:37 pm

    Libertas are dangerous. They ride on the wave of populism, fueling that wave with vague and sweeping statement. Caroline Simmons and her election standpoints of ‘Job creation’ and ‘economic recovery’ are a very good example - what is she trying to say? Are the other candidates trying to destroy jobs and stifle the economic recovery? Now that we are getting a glimpse of the actual policies and politics of the candidates, it would seem their goals are dark and disturbing, beyond anti-european, entrenched in the realms of pro partition. I just hope the Irish people don’t make the same mistake twice and give credibility to Ganly’s claims or that we listen to the empty voices of his simpering collection of political odds and ends!

    Comment by Alan
    13.
    May 19, 2009
    1:52 pm

    Has the Irish Times no shame. Can it not even hide its extreme anti-Libertas bias?. It’s ridiculous.Readers want news not an agenda driven bias.

    Comment by Gary Larkin
    14.
    May 19, 2009
    2:00 pm

    Its all about populism. There is no procedure that would enable 30 MEPs (this is maximum and rather impossible score of Libertas) to change a fundamental principle on which EU is based. I understand that some Irish may be not pleased with high number of other EU citizens working there but please don’t buy this bullshit

    Comment by Marcin, Warsaw
    15.
    May 19, 2009
    4:58 pm

    Yeah, I have to agree with the others who commented on the IT’s bias. The fact that this reporter went out of their way to highlight the complete hypocrisy of Libertas shows just how extreme their anti-Ganley agenda is. The editor must resign over this outrage!

    Comment by The truthiest truth teller
    16.
    May 19, 2009
    7:24 pm

    I would never waste money buying the Irish Times Newspaper….It is the most biased and agenda driven tripe!

    Talk about propaganda!

    If you want a fair and democratic EU
    VOTE LIBERTAS!

    Comment by Seamus Wicklow
    17.
    May 20, 2009
    9:52 am

    Actually some of the Polish candidates have links to the far right via a Hitler youth type organisation.
    And some of them actually hinted they were only standing for these elections because of the huge salaries on offer and are willing to tone down their zenophobia to earn a lot of money.

    Comment by John
    18.
    May 20, 2009
    11:40 am

    Its interesting that the Irish times puts themselves out as an ‘objective’ and impartial newspaper. However, any coverage the paper has done on libertas in regard to the eu has elections (an such coverage has been scant) its all negative coverage. The sooner the better this marxist paper and all its elitist up there own arses journalists go out of business will be a win for democracy.

    Comment by risteard
    19.
    May 20, 2009
    2:09 pm

    I hope the Irish have learned their lesson after being let down by the government during the last Lisbon Campaign…the government didn’t trust the will of the people so kept them in the dark but it was that very fear of the unknown that defeated the treaty. Libertas are but a sideshow circus of radical renegades and cannot be allowed to determine Irelands future within an inclusive Europe. It is wonderful that other nationalities are coming here and breathing life into this country again and those that feel threatened by that should either buck up or buck off to some even smaller ‘minded’ Island!

    Comment by Reality Check
    20.
    May 20, 2009
    5:07 pm

    I will be voting for Libertas exactly on the basis that this newspaper outlines above. Too many immigrants has spoilt the whole EU project for me. It’s like an overbearing behemoth that seem to be getting more invasive as time goes on. The beast seems to be taking on a life of it own and no-one seems to be controlling it.
    Hence I shall be voting for Libertas in the forthcoming election.

    Comment by Desmond
    21.
    May 21, 2009
    10:17 am

    The fact is every EU country’s citizens are looking out for themselves. And it will get worse. The murmurings around the coffee docks, long ignored by the “enlighten” elite, is finally getting its turn to surface. It was inevitable that this would follow.
    This country has taken in (but not absorbed) 20% of it population in less than 10 years to aid a shambolic era termed the “Celtic Tiger”. Who benefited? Well, developers & shopkeepers got cheap labour. The government got kudos for introducing multi-culturalism (even as it was failing elsewhere). Liberal middle class types felt they were “doing there bit” and were more globally relevant when all the while the working class were looking on in dismay at the better qualified direct competition for their low paid jobs.
    Now we have a situation where working class cannot get a job, school or college students cannot get a part time job all because these jobs are taken up by EU and non EU folk who are paying for their kid education back home (or we’re paying it here). They mostly pay no tax (outside the tax net is the term).
    Be dammed with the EU. Be dammed with a project that looks to turn a once proud nation into one where moral standing and doing what right for its citizen is no longer relevant.

    Comment by Padraig
    22.
    May 21, 2009
    3:02 pm

    Alan, “populism” is democracy.

    Comment by Brian Boru
    23.
    May 22, 2009
    4:38 am

    As a resident of the North West constituency, I hope that Ganley does not succeed in winning a seat. The last thing we need is a Hobby MEP. With his business interests and leadership of the group, he would have little time for our concerns,
    For someone who talks about job creation and appears to be in a position to do something about it, he shows little enthusiasm for doing it in the west of Ireland.

    Comment by PCR
    24.
    May 23, 2009
    11:32 am

    a once proud nation eh, Padraig? one that gave away its natural resource off the west coast, that has the lowest number of neurologists per head of popl in europe and cherishes alcoholism, has no choice betw leftist and rightist govts, frig-all psychologists if your child needs to see one, one that still inbreeds/intermarries with the next parish even tho so many attractive european women have come here

    Comment by longwaydown
    25.
    May 24, 2009
    8:54 pm

    On the contrary, PCB, we need businessmen with international expertise in our politics, rather than merely from the professions that have been sheltered with barriers-to-entry introduced in the Oireachtas by TDs from the legal/medical-profession and the publicans. Indeed Alan Dukes recently rebuked the Dept of Finance for the inaccuracy of their forecasts, which might be attributed to the lack of trained economics therein. We need persons with expertise and knowledge of the global-economy if we are to dig ourselvds out of the hole in which we find ourselves.

    Comment by Brian Boru
    26.
    May 25, 2009
    11:21 am

    Not only Libertas is using these tactics, FF had already used it the last referendum, did you all remember the last citizenship referendum, when Bertie Ahern came out and told us all to vote NO, people went on the radio to condemn our new workers and the rights of their children, instead of tackling the issue in preference with the parents status, we prefered the stereotype method, and good for FF they got the votes they wanted. so who are we to condemn Libertas now, our past deeds will always hunt us and this generation is part of it. i can see the same arrogancy of FF then in Libertas now too, the same arrogancy that lead us to where we are today, the arrogancy that made us the laughing stock in Europe and once the friend of the world and now the enemy of anyone that has ever been to our country to try make a living. we built a fake economy for ourselves and we treated all others like rags, we easily forgot the past and through our credit lifesstyle, we think we are better than others, we are here today and still playing that same game, we can’t blame the politicians because they simply tells us what we want to hear instead of the truth.

    Comment by Chris Casey

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