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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: August 13, 2008 @ 10:49 am

    Food and the Future

    Bryan

    I’m not a huge fan of the British monarchy. It’s nothing personal. I think it has to do with the fact that I see them as representing the old British Empire and the idea that one kind of person can be better than another kind of person. One of the reasons I admire Ireland is that this country had the sense to stay out of the Commonwealth.

    So it came as a huge surprise when I found myself agreeing with Prince Charles wholeheartedly. He gave an interview to the Daily Telegraph in which he stated his disgust at genetically modified crops and the idea that GMOs are the way out of a food crisis. A recorded segment of that interview shows that the monarch-in-waiting can be a very passionate man.

    Prince Charles’ argument is that what is important is food security rather than just food production, which can be very short sighted. He quotes India’s Green Revolution which worked initially, but eventually caused more harm than good, further impoverishing small scale farmers. In his eyes, the way to go is to promote biodiversity and small farms tended by families as opposed to the current corporation dominated food industry.

    One of the books I’m reading at the moment is Stuffed and Starved by Raj Patel. It is a fascinating and moving look into the food industry. The author makes a lot of the same points as Prince Charles’. If these two men are right, and I think they are, I really hope people start paying attention sooner rather than later.

    Incidentally, I think Trevor Sargent has similar feelings and has been working towards possible solutions as Minister of State for Food and Horticulture. It is interesting to note that farming in Ireland hasn’t been taken over by big business.

  • 12 Comments

    1.
    August 13, 2008
    11:46 am

    Maybe Trevor Sargent can work towards erradicting the slug problem most of us small organic veg growers are having at the moment in this damp balmy weather. Subsidised Guinness supplies would be a start, I’ve found its the Irish slugs favourite tipple (no joke!) and is more of a lure than the lush greens of veg. That is if we can keep the flooding rainwater out of the beertraps long enough.

    Comment by paul m
    2.
    August 13, 2008
    12:27 pm

    sorry i just realised how trite that post is compared to the greater discussion on GM foods. I think we’ve seen the damage that intense farming has done to crops in the long term (blight especially) so GM on top of that would really be killing off arrable land for any future generations of farmers. Not enough is known about the longterm effects of GM but we have seen how virus in hospitals have mutated to exist in (near) sterile environments so GM could encourage a particularly nasty strain of resistant virus that would decimate organic crop.

    There are a growing number of people in Dublin here shifting to allotments and small farmholds as a way of circumventing the rotten veg supplied by supermarkets and possibly providing a small income by way of sunday market sales. So thats something encouraging for the government to build on.

    I’d be curious to see what Trevor Sargent can do to convince exisiting farmers there is money in crops while reducing intense farming and shifting to biodiversity and organic methods. The price is still very high for organic goods here (and in some cases understandably due to the heavy loss of crop from pests) but an increased yield would help bring these down.

    Comment by paul m
    3.
    August 13, 2008
    3:43 pm

    Prince Charles has been a long time proponent of Organic Farming and in the past was seen as a bit of a crackpot. I wonder if his views are being taken more seriously these days.

    Comment by J Burke
    4.
    August 13, 2008
    4:04 pm

    Paul – Have you been to the English Market in Cork? Cork has quite a few really good markets. I definitely think more needs to be done to promote them and small farmers. The fruit and veg,in supermarkets is often dodgy.

    And I would love to know what prompted you to discover Irish slugs’ favorite beverage!

    J – The sad truth is that I’ve never really taken him seriously myself. I have never considered myself to be one of those people caught up in the hysteria following Princess Diana’s death. But I’m starting to think that I am one of those people who decided that Prince Charles was a villain and never heard him out on anything.

    I hope more people start listening to him.

    Comment by Bryan
    5.
    August 13, 2008
    6:38 pm

    yep been to the english market in cork and its a delight to have such an abundance of wonderful in a permanent fixture. There is talk of the fruit market in smithfield being renovated for the public but i fear it will go the same way as the CHQ building in Dublin – http://www.chq.ie/index.jsp – a wonderful building begging to be filled with market fare but instead half empty and full of second rate coffee, clothes and nicknack shops. what a waste for a building with such a colourful history (and once a cigarette and wine store).

    as for the slugs favourite beverage well…. i got so sick of them eating into my veg patch that i invited them down the local for a natter about solving the problem over a pint. When i popped out to the toilet on my return i saw them swimming in my Guinness and i knew i was onto a winner. Its not so hard to donate a sup of the black stuff to the little beggars when its for a worthy cause.

    As for Prince Charles he’s had another little eco related side project on the go for a good few years, Poundbury, a small english town that he’s trying to restore to its original glory but integrate all mod cons in the least invasive way possibly. That was deemed a waste of money at the time and yet a lot of people wanted to become a resident there or adapt the principle in other countries. It seems some of the best of old values mixed with modern ideas and good old fashioned innovative thinking can produce good results (it helps though if you have the clout and pocket that the Prince does)

    Comment by paul m
    6.
    August 13, 2008
    11:12 pm

    I’m starting to like the Prince a whole lot.

    If the Greens don’t push through some serious results in terms of setting up people’s markets and promoting small farms and organic produce, they won’t have justified their inclusion in government for me. It’s a pity that the IFA have given Trevor Sargent for promoting organic produce.

    Comment by Bryan
    7.
    August 13, 2008
    11:26 pm

    Even the Prince of Wales will get hammered if he goes against conventional wisdom, and more importantly, the conventional food industry. He’s now a luddite? http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b9d4eabc-6963-11dd-91bd-0000779fd18c.html?nclick_check=1

    I’m liking the future monarch more and more by the day!

    Comment by Bryan
    8.
    August 14, 2008
    11:21 am

    Bryan,

    i too have become increasingly frustrated with the lack of progress the Greens have made in government. We rightfully expected innovative developments in Green government policy and have yet to see it bar the odd little announcement here and there which isnt exactly life changing. But i’ll stick to the food related issue for the moment :)

    As for the markets well thats more down to local councillors than at Government level. There are markets in most towns and those without should be pushing their council to get them set up again. The problem at the moment is a lot of the markets in Dublin are run by the same crowd (not the dublin coco they just facilitate the market in designated areas) and so theres no real competition in price which i think is a key factor in bolstering peoples use of them and getting them to expand beyond the sunday temporary set up to a full time facility like that of the English Market in Cork. Its terrible to think that a country with a wonderful array of agriculutural and fishing produce cant sustain a permanent market, akin to those of Barcelona, in our capitol.

    There is the co op near Pearse St and the smithfield fruit market but neither are truly well advertised to the public. Cork’s market really is a gem to the city.

    Comment by paul m
    9.
    August 14, 2008
    2:00 pm

    Bryan, I agree with you totally on ths, and your view is one I have held for a very long time, since I first began studying genetics in the ’80s.
    Genetic modification of food is VERY dangerous and once begun, cannot be stopped. The best we can hope for now is to limit the damage to those foods that have already been modified and stop at that – don’t do it to any more species.

    Comment by Tim
    10.
    August 14, 2008
    2:22 pm

    Insulin, anybody? GM has great potential, the prince is a bit of a loon – though doubtless well-meaning – so try looking at the science instead of believing the fairy tales.

    Comment by Jellybean
    11.
    August 14, 2008
    10:30 pm

    I’m not a member of the green party, but I do think the following needs to be considered:
    2000 schools planted school gardens this year, the vast vast majority because of an initiative by Trevor Sargent. (called meet the spuds). This will have an incredible affect on the future – I know, partly becuase of the difference in my 8 year old son’s knowledge of and behaviour around vegetables. Especially the ones he grows.
    Local council supported farmers markets have been established too, in north county dublin.
    If you want more, click on the trevor sargent link on my blog:
    http://olivermoore.blogspot.com

    Comment by ollie
    12.
    August 14, 2008
    11:20 pm

    Paul – Maybe high rents get in the way of private individuals setting up markets in Dublin. Or maybe it’s just that there isn’t the market going culture here that exists in places like Barcelona? Either way, it’s a pity.

    Tim – the sad thing is that I have no idea how much GM food is sold in the supermrkets. I don’t even know if it has to be labelled.

    Jellybean – Hey, leave my new found friend alone. And insulin is different. A normal process is manipulated for the production of a natural substance. With GM food, the very DNA of plants is altered. And then, the effectively mutant new organism is fed to people. That process could potentially be associated with health issues like increased incidence of cancers in the future. There hasn’t been enough testing done to know for sure. Besides, surely there is a line which ethically you can’t cross without playing God?

    Ollie – Thanks for that link. I’m not a ‘Green’ either, but I think Trevor Sargent doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. The fact that he has the foresight to help educate children in such a creative way is impressive.

    Comment by Bryan

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