Jim Carroll

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5 things we learned this morning about The Stone Roses and Irish gigonomics

(1) Not even reformed Manc baggy legends can buck the Irish recession. The era of instant sell-outs for big outdoor shows and festivals is well and truly over – unless you’re Take That. People are leaving it closer to the …

Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 11:24

   

(1) Not even reformed Manc baggy legends can buck the Irish recession. The era of instant sell-outs for big outdoor shows and festivals is well and truly over – unless you’re Take That. People are leaving it closer to the date to buy tickets for shows, though they might still do the Ticketmaster 8am waltz for indoor gigs where there is a finite capacity and they feel the show might sell fast.

(2) One of the most consistent questions asked prior to the Phoenix Park show going on sale related to the capacity of the field. Gigs at the Phoenix Park can range in capacity from 40,000 to 100,000 so a lot of punters felt they were buying a bit of a pig in a poke as there’s a huge difference between a 40k and 100k show. The only figure I heard was 36,000 which Paul McLoone mentioned twice or three times on his Today FM show last night. Emails and tweets to MCD asking about capacity for the show have gone unanswered to date.

(3) It’s going to take more than organising radio competitions and generating press hype from promoter-friendly journos to shift tickets. Promoters are going to have to actually learn how to promote shows and this means more than just sending out press releases, taking out ads and lining up interviews with the band’s drummer. Time for some innovative thinking, gig promoters.

(4) Are The Stone Roses really that much of a big deal anyway? A handful of decent albums and live shows which went from amazing (well, at the beginning of their career) to downright appalling (the rest of their career) may not be enough in the end to sustain a big show in the Phoenix Park.

(5) Maybe they’d have done better on day one if they had put a decent bill together. But such a support cast is going to cost cash which may not have been budgeted for to begin with. Speaking of which, was Noel Gallagher always in the frame for the Red Hot Chili Peppers’ show in Croker or is that a touch of desperation for a show which is not yet sold out (he’s not doing any other show on the tour)? Amanda Brunker, get emailing Dinny, you might get another gig yet.

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