Quality vs quantity
Jim Carroll
We have reached the promised land when it comes to music. If you have the time to devote to listening, you will most certainly find enough music to occupy every scintilla of that time. Whether it’s new or old stock you’re after, it’s coming at you, endless wave after endless wave. Just keep clicking.
For those of us who possess a passion for new sounds, this is nirvana beyond our wildest expectations. All the music you can eat and enough to go around several times. You dive in, you find something you like, you feast on it, you move onto the next table. You keep on trucking.
But if it’s all hunky-dory on the quantity side of the equation, what about the quality? How does our desire for quality dovetail with the abundance of music which we encounter every day, every week, every month? More importantly, because we still gravitate towards quality music, has how we guage quality changed?
After all, the filters we use when it comes to calibrating, hallmarking and identifying quality are still, by and large, functioning. Very few of us have the time or, indeed, inclination to wade through everything that’s on offer so only a certain number of new bands and tunes rise to the top in any given year. It’s the process of how we come to a collective conclusion about these bands and tunes which fascinates me.
Every single week, I write about a bunch of new bands here and play at least a dozen new tunes every Tuesday night on The Far Side radio show. I don’t need any reminding that not all of these are going to stick with audiences or enjoy some time in the sun despite what I might think. It’s not like I’m back in A&R mode gambling someone else’s cash on these acts – I like them, think there’s potential and throw them out there. It’s a fact that many of these debutants will probably never feature further on mainstream radars, not that this is ever the plan by a significant number of them (music hobbyists do make good music too, you know). Most acts who do intend to take the playing-music-for-a-living route, though, will take a couple of years before they strike it lucky and that will only happen after 10,000 hours of gigs, recording sessions, rehearsals and time spent waiting for a fried egg bap in a Little Chef outside Birmingham.
Some observers will point out at this juncture that the current mania for the new is a huge part of the oversupply problem but, like so much in modern culture, there’s no going back to the way things used to be. You can’t go back to having record shops on every Main Street as your only way to get new music. You can’t go back to having labels controlling the means of access to the music market. You can’t go back to having Top Of the Pops on every Thursday night and the entire family gathering around the telly to gawk at what the pop stars of the day are wearing and talking about it to their pals the following day. The genie is out of the bottle and s/he is busting moves left, right and centre. You have to suck it up. You have to join the dancing. You can’t, we repeat, go back.
Which is why it’s still worth looking at how a mass of people come to a conclusion about quality – after all, that quest for quality hasn’t gone away. Many still trust the wisdom of crowds. If your friends are championing the same band or song, you’re likely to go with them on the basis of familiarity and tribal ties. You may keep an eye on some beyond-the-pale filters and recommenders– certain blogs or some radio shows or a reviewer who seems to have the same taste as you – so you’ll take some of your cues from them. You just don’t have the time to wade through everything which is coming at you so you rely on your friends and filters. You trust them.
It’s when these calls are further filtered and finessed that the process gets even more interesting. I’ve been fascinated time and time again this year looking at how Adele continues to sell copies of “21” like billy-o. It’s a great album but what’s more striking is the manner in which a huge swathe of those who buy and like music – and we’re not merely talking about the die-hards who know their Factory Floor from their Factory Records, because they don’t quite figure in this equation – have embraced “21”. It’s the album which has got the communal thumbs up and a huge mass of people have jumped onboard. There is still massive magnteic power to be harnessed by a piece of art.
I’ve also been struck this summer by how Foster the People’s “Pumped Up Kicks” has taken off, chiefly because such momentum has been a year in the making. “Pumped Up Kicks” had a brief moment in the shop-window last summer (specialist radio play, blog love and a berth on an NME Radar compilation) but, despite charming the pants off anyone who heard it, the tune never went beyond being an underground thrill. This summer, though, this has all changed. The tune is getting hammered on the radio, it is soundtracking ads and it’s a big deal. The tune is still as fantastic as it was a year ago but now, the wisdom of crowds has joined the party and pushed things forward.
For those who make music and hope to make a living from it, there are several lessons to learn here. There’s still an audience for great music, which is good to know. Still an audience who are willing to pay cash for music (which is great for Adele as she hasn’t done the dog like her peers when it comes to live shows). Still an audience who don’t really care two hoots about what an act looks like (though I think Foster the People may not have much problems in this regard).
But it also shows that just as audience respects and responds to quality, acts too need to go that extra couple of miles and provide that quality. One of the reasons why there’s so much music out there is that it’s never been easier for acts to get their music to our ears. Yet this doesn’t mean that they should keep firing out stuff just for the sake of it. Why do that when you’re not going to impress anyone? Why do that when you’re not going to add to your 10,000 followers? There is a lot of virtue in pulling back, taking a break and working on what will attract attention. The problem for bands is that it’s very hard to say no to all the offers which are coming their way. Like freelancers, there’s a fear that if you say no, the good stuff won’t come around again. But it’s worth noting that an audience will respond to quality so it might be worth waiting to give them the real deal rather than throwing them scraps from the table.
Because quality does rule. It’s what seperates the great from the merely good. And at a time when everything you want is just a search field away, it’s quality which makes us want to stick around for more.

Module ( Kiwi musical genius ) was more or less saying the same thing as the 2nd last paragraph recently when asked when he is going to be releasing new stuff……as in how can he still have people asking the same questions in 5 years time
On a side note, was anyone else at Great Lakes Mystery , Solar Bears & Washed Out in The Grand Social on Friday night?
Gig of the year so far in my opinion. Solar Bears tore the joint up ( as always ) . And Washed Out were simply sublime .
I think the photo for Washed Out wikipedia page should be changed too as its very misleading with just Ernest and his laptop. Not a laptop to be seen on stage but instead 5 band members including a drummer, bassist and 3 synths . Hardware over software . Absolute class .
Damn hot in the venue too…….must be due to it being a loft….will know for again anyway !
To expand on the quality/quantity discussion, I think a big difficulty is the shelf life for any new quality music.
Regardless of how strong your pedigree and output, the pressure from newer music leads to a lot of worthy releases being relegated to the bottom of the pile well before their time. Out of sight (or ear), out of mind? How new acts are meant to carve out a decent career while avoid being portrayed as no longer relevant, sometimes within 6 months, is anyone’s guess.
E.g. This time last year The Vaccines formed with their first official releases towards the tail end of 2010. A good bit of crackle and a debut album later, there is already a sense that they are yesterday’s men in a lot of the stuff I read. Maybe they didn’t deliver in some people’s eyes, maybe Zane Lowe giving them his blessing worked against them but the album charted pretty high so it can’t have all been bad.
Similarly I can’t believe Arcade Fire only hit the scene about 6/7 years but are now considered part of ‘the establishment’. That doesn’t add up in my head. I appreciate that winning Grammy’s, etc has meant they’ve ‘arrived’ with a serious thud but they are hardly the Godfathers of Theatrical/Anthemic Indie of whatever handle you want to use.
Now I’m tangenting….
As for my own barometer for quality, I still use the old association game when it comes to new music e.g. the new Jonathan Wilson album came onto my radar via his friendship/involvement with Dawes, Jayhawks, and the ‘…if you like Bon Iver…’ nods.
I have also found that new albums are starting to have a converse effect – while I would have been familiar with his best of, the new Paul Simon album has sent me back to study his 70s output. Go figure.
James D – interesting comment. I find that the acceleration of culture has meant more and more instances of what you refer to above – that feeling that stuff is here today and gone tomorrow. But I don’t think – using your example above – that there was anything on The Vaccines’ debut album which the masses thought was worthy of getting onboard with. It was good, but it was not great. “Good but not great” means a lifetime of mid-bill festival appearances and Zane Lowe love but it doesn’t mean selling one in 10 records sold in the UK this like like Adele.
Arcade Fire’s place in the establishment – are they really establishment? To OTR readers they are but look at the reaction to their Grammy win in the US. Still a lot of “WTF?” to them there (again, beyond those who are tuned in to the machinations of the alternative universe).
Paul Simon/Jonathan Wilson etc – yes, agree 100%. I went back to Rhymin’ Simon’s 70s stuff this summer too on the back of the new album and his Vicar St show. And I love coming across acts on the “if you like X, you’ll like Y” that actually do tick that box.
these are indeed strange times, on one hand there are some who download stuff everyday and because of this a new band really only has one listen to grab the listener before he/she never listens again or likes what they here and plays it again . these same people back in the day would have been working out their weekly budget to see how much they could spend at their local record shop (i was one of them)
there are still word of mouth success stories like the new horrors album where every journo/blogger jumped all over it
and on the other hand you have people who don’t really go digging for music , don’t know how to download and will buy the advertised music that they like, like adele, she did all the chat shows , a good character and some good tunes .
now they are all off buying amy winehouse cd’s
I do worry that with all the new music at my/our disposal that I’m missing out on the album that only “clicks” after the 5th listen. Similarly i worry that we are going to miss out on those artists who only hit their stride after their third album. Historically such artists would have been nurtured by a label and given the room and licence to grow but obviously that m.o. has changed completely. Whether the technological advances in music and in the music industry more than make up for that – i don’t know but I’m not complaining. Yet.
I like last.fm for recommendations, it links to your itunes and plays you recommended tunes based on your previous plays. So if you like Beach House you might like Twin Sister etc. It’s my like own radio station! It’s not just music we’re bombarded with, it’s information in general now. I find it hard to filter.
Douglas Coupland called it “Omniscience fatigue”, the ability to know all about it all the time. One response is “Ikeasis”: “This need for clear, unconfusing forms is a means of simplifying life amid an onslaught of information.”
Some response to Adele may be that she became Ikeafied. The new money-making is in the Ikeafying of culture product. Ikeaifying can include having music featured in an Ikea ad.
Grace – one unasked question above was probably about the detoriation of filtering systems and especially how this applies to those who have only ever known a digital world. Older folks like me who remember a pre-digital world can do some compare and contrast between now and then but I wonder if younger music fans have a totally different set of criteria when it comes to making sense of the huge amount of info and music (and culture) which comes our way.
aonghus – I’ve always maintained that we will miss some (note, I said some!) elements of the label system in time. For every time a label acted as a barrier to entry in the Old Days, there were always plenty of times when they provided a band with great potential with the time, largesse, mentoring and patience to succeed. Whatever I might say about Radiohead’s music, it has to be acknowledged by them and me that they would never have become so influential were it not for the fact that EMI signed them and developed them long before they became the band they are today. But, as I’ve said above, those days are over. Everything had moved on and we need to adopt to new systems. Does this mean no more bands of the scale of Radiohead or Coldplay? Perhaps, but I still see instances where mass appeal can turn a band into a marquee act. It won’t happen as much as in the past but it will happen. I mean, look at Arcade Fire, as mentioned by James D above.
petee – those 5-CDs-a-year people still fascinate me. Is it just mass appeal that gets an act on their radar or is it the quality of what’s on offer? After all, there are a lot of mass-advertised, promoted and plugged acts but only some make it. It’s this audience which turns an act like Adele into a world-beater. And, as you say, they’re not downloading or digging for tunes.
The topic of new music choice overload is one that I think about very often and I’d like to air some of my thoughts and questions now that the issue has been raised. Like everyone who contributes to OTR, I love music and discovering new music. However my love for music and the amount of time to listen to it don’t match up. With new music constantly being recommended by OTR, XLR8R, FACT, Resident Advisor, Pitchfork, other blogs etc etc I often feel overwhelmed, even disappointed, by the amount of quality stuff I want to listen to. It has come to the point that I regularly feel that by listening to, say, an XLR8R mix I may be missing out on some brilliant stuff in the New Music section on OTR, even though I am really, really enjoying the XLR8R mix. And by listening to that mix I am again neglecting a supposedly brilliant Luomo album which is still unopened on my shelf, a month after I bought it.
And when I do get down to listening to an album I have been meaning to listen to and I get into it I begin to feel as if I have sort of “completed it” and I need to go and find something else. It’s like I can’t waste time listening to something I already enjoy because there could be something out there that I will like more.
Is this normal or am I alone on this curved, leather divan?
And with all this new music, apparently worthy of our attention (regarded even as “essential” on some sites), what happens to the stuff that we loved last month or last year? How can there be time for that old stuff when there is all this newer, shinier, more recommended stuff? For example Jim, you listed Person Pitch as your 5th favourite album of the last decade (a most worthy ranking, in my opinion) but I wonder, with all this new stuff to be listened to, when was the last time you actually cracked it out and listened to it? And was it as good as when you drafted that list?
It’s like there are too many aural treats at this online party and I am already full. Yet I cannot help myself from gorging on them relentlessly. Is anyone else at the same party?
Tighe, I’m with you on this. The point to remember is that the need to “gorge relentlessly” is a type of anxiety. The “tail is wagging the dog” on your musical listening. Sometimes it’s the status anxiety about being a musical guru, an irrational fear that you’re going to miss out on something, and more and more the sheer volume of distraction available to us. It feeds into that same sense of completeness anxiety we had for sticker albums.
It helps to keep in mind what your musical vision is, the general idea you have about what you want to get out of music. I think most of us would agree we would like to know that particular album like a well lived-in coat – think of how you might have felt about an album by the National, or the Walkmen – bands that demand attention to their exquisite songwriting.
Like our need to gorge online news and social media, unlimited good music is something we were never meant to have access to – we cannot healthily handle that level of always-on distraction. We have to be happy to let a lot of good albums slip by us so we can really enjoy the ones that do come to our attention. If we miss something great this year there’s plenty of future years to come back and discover it.
Though in saying all that I have my 2011 “to listen to” and “to digest” playlists with thousands of songs anxiously awaiting me on Spotify.
“Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference”.
Just been reading some quotes from Ian Rogers on kind of the same area: http://www.musicthinktank.com/blog/how-middle-class-musicians-navigate-the-nodes-on-the-network.html
“Downstream of that the cost of production has come down… And the cost of distribution has come down… But the cost of marketing has gone up”
@10 “We have to be happy to let a lot of good albums slip by us so we can really enjoy the ones that do come to our attention. If we miss something great this year there’s plenty of future years to come back and discover it”
1 100% agree. One sure fire way to counter FOMO ( Fear of Missing Out……and also the title of Liam Finn’s latest album ! )
The quantity vs. quality issue is something I’m constantly struggling with at the moment. As a blogger, I’ve seen the amount of submissions I get in double in the past year or so and the sheer breadth of new music is a bombardment. What really is starting to annoy me personally is the idea that something is old if it’s not premiered online in the last two weeks that some people have. I’ve actually been berated on Twitter a few times for posting something on the blog that wasn’t brand new but was a few months old. The constant devouring of new music has left us in a weird place.
So my only way of dealing with it is to raise the bar for what I feel is quality. Be more discerning in every way. Sure there are things in the last few months I like but not enough to love so these don’t get posted. I don’t always get it right but it helps me strike the balance for listening to older stuff and new stuff. It’s still hard, like Steve K said to keep that irrational fear at bay but I think personally I’m getting better at ignoring things that may just not be quality enough.
On the Adele front, not trying to slag it off, but interested in how the album has risen to the top. Is it really a great record? I’ll admit to having heard only the singles, but to me it sounds like a good or very good record, not a great one..but it really is one that people have gotten into based on the music and the performers honesty alone. Seems to me that people jumped at one of the first honest and non-flashy records released in a while, and of course, the song writing is above average too, so people flockeed to it.
Would she have stood out as much in a different time? Although, that probably isn’t fair, would the Beatles have stood out in a different time could be just as rediculous a question, but you get what I mean hopefully!
@ Steve K – Thanks for the response. It has put my mind somewhat at ease. I don’t run a blog (yet) so being a new music guru isn’t a concern for me but I get what you are saying anxiety creating this FOMO complex that Scarecrows of the Stipe mentions.
@ Niall – Raising the bar on quality seems to be a good idea but without giving the time to a piece of music, even if its only one listen, how can you sort the wheat from the chaff? Do you only focus on the stuff that hits you immediately as quality? Surely there are albums that you like, perhaps love, that didn’t click at all the first time around but after a few more listens the enjoyment grew exponentially? For example, I was confused and turned-off the first time I listened to Merriweather Post Pavilion but because it garnered such rave reviews across the web I listened a few more times, and then a few more times and it suddenly all fell into place. To the point now where I find listening to it a kind of euphoric, deep experience.
What I fear is that with all this new music being touted as brilliant, the likelihood of developing a relationship or deep affinity with an album diminishes drastically. Perhaps that is why there will never be another big band like Radiohead or Coldplay or popstar like Prince or Michael Jackson. Or maybe if Adele continues on her path we will all be proved wrong. Somehow I don’t think so.
Raising the bar on quality seems to be a good idea but without giving the time to a piece of music, even if its only one listen, how can you sort the wheat from the chaff? Do you only focus on the stuff that hits you immediately as quality?
It can be hard if something doesn’t grab you immediately but USUALLY, there’s something about it that makes you file it under ‘come back later’ and like you said those are usually the ones with longevity. I have my own list of filters and curators – it’s pretty impossible to miss something if it’s THAT good. It may take a few months but it’ll come back to me eventually, so best to focus on what’s floating the boat now. Good music has an infinite lifespan so if those things I like are better than I initially thought, I will notice eventually.
I’ve been pretty sated by albums and songs from SBTRKT Active Child, M83, Bon Iver, Wu Lyf, Zomby, Austra and Tune-Yards in recent months so I keep coming back to those without fail so I don’t feel like I’m missing too much, more overwhelmed .