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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: February 24, 2010 @ 11:11 am

    Why the political dramas of the last fortnight don’t really matter a damn

    Jim Carroll

    My name is Jim and I’m a political junkie. This is not new news to OTR readers, of course, who’ve seen this blog follow the twists and turns of a remarkable 16 days in Irish politics. Those of us who treat political jigs and reels as a form of blood sport haven’t had so much fun in years. Your man from RTE throwing his toys out of the pram, Deirdre de Burca’s icy daggers, Willie O’Dea’s wibbly-wobbly fall from grace and, now, the Minister for Parsnips and Turnips Trevor Sargent standing down in bizarre circumstances: it has been one hell of a month for the Irish political system.

    Let’s be clear about one thing, though. As we watch personalities, characters and chancers on Kildare Street huff and puff on and off the plinth, the big issues remain unresolved, untouched and unmentioned. These haven’t gone away just because polticians are preening and falling on their swords and carrots. The lack of jobs, the numbers on the dole queues, the state of the banks, the inertia in the economy and the general national mood of helplessness are still present and correct.

    No-one in power is doing anything constructive or innovative about these issues. Oh sure, they’ll issue a few press releases about “hundreds of green jobs” and get caught up in ridiculous chararades with airline bosses, but this is just shadowboxing and window dressing. Those allegedly in charge of this little country has no solutions for the problems we face and show little sign of changing that state of affairs. We know this and, worse, they know it too. A stalemate has developed and neither side has a rashers about the next move to make.

    Instead, we, the people who elected the current shower on both sides of the divide on Kildare Street, whinge. We moan and grumble and give out. We turn to those temples of gloom, Liveline on the radio and The Frontline on the telly, to bellyache. In other countries, they take their protests to the streets; here, we talk to Joe. If it’s not the old wans giving out to Joe Duffy, it’s various reps from the so-called lost generation grumbling about their sense of entitlement to Pat Kenny.

    Leaving aside how quickly Kenny and his team have allowed The Frontline to become Liveline-TV, it was illustrative to see Monday’s night “youth” show (good to see The Frontline are getting their ideas from the Gay Byrne era of The Late, Late Show, eh?) descend into a predictable national moan. We have covered the complaints of the lost generation before and I really don’t want to go back over old ground. Thousands are sailing again, but the whinge generation that are leaving this time are doing so with an awful lot of negative baggage. Word up: you’re entitled to absolutely nothing just because you have a degree under your oxter. It’s those who’re choosing to stay behind to try to sort out the mess that really should be getting the attention.

    One issue which has come up again and again and again as the Celtic Tiger and the good times have exited stage left is a disengagement between the political system and the people. We think we know what the system should be doing, but it doesn’t appear to be doing that. You could hear tones of this in GLXTD’s parting shots and it’s present whenever two or more gather to moan. The “all those bleedin’ politicians are the same” line sums this one up as we contemplate a political system still dominated by the Civil War politics which was bequeathed to us by our grandparents and great-grandparents. There have been many attempts to change this picture via new political parties and movements – including, I understand, one in the last six months which never left the planning stages despite the best intentions of all concerned – but nothing has happened. We continue to re-elect different sides of the same coin.

    The problem is that you need to be in the system in order to change it. Those on the outside clamouring for change and calling for a second republic and advocating new ways of doing things unfortunately don’t have the power to do anything. Those on the inside, those who have played the system and won, have no desire or need to change the status quo. Even though the numbers might say something else, we’re stuck with the system we have and, like an omnibus episode of Eastenders, we’re going to continue to encounter the same characters, the same drama queens and the same plotlines for some time to come. Meanwhile, the bigger issues continue to fester….

  • 35 Comments

    1.
    February 24, 2010
    11:53 am

    We do have the power to change things. It’s called a General Election but the sad, simple truth is that most people in this country do not actually want things to change. It seems what most people want is to get back to 2006/2007 and forget this period in our country’s history ever happened. People talk about getting the country “back on track”, whereas I, as I imagine you, think that we never have been on track.

    I honestly think the views here on your blog are in the minority in this country. I don’t believe there is any real clamour for a radically new, fairer, more equal society. Most people are just concerned with looking out for themselves and their own and they really couldn’t give a damn how anybody else is doing or how society is at large.

    Once the economy does start to pick up and jobs are created very quickly everyone will shut up and carry on, even though the biggest problems of all (our political system and our broken society) remain.

    Comment by Conor Furlong
    2.
    February 24, 2010
    11:56 am

    Conor – agree with you – and 100% on the line “I don’t believe there is any real clamour for a radically new, fairer, more equal society”. It’s what those who are too close to the action – and I include rogue music bloggers in this – often fail to realise or acknowledge.

    That’s the problem – people will moan and grumble and complain and give out but they put up with it. There is no will to change. Instead of doing that, we Irish will instead just do a spot of fuming. I just wish we’d give up the pretence that we want anything else. We need it, sure, but we don’t really want it.

    But also the events of the last 16 days have done fuck all for the bigger, more pressing issues we face. Instead, they’re a distraction and probably serve to further remove people from what’s happening and especially being done in their name.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    3.
    February 24, 2010
    12:04 pm

    Hi Jim,

    I agree with your observation that The Frontline has become Liveline TV. The constant belly-aching is almost more depressing than the economic situation. Irish people seem to have a tendency to react very emotionally to things: from extreme self-congratulation during the Celtic Tiger years to abject despair at the first sign of trouble.

    I disagree with your remarks about those who are emigrating, however. It is in fact the people leaving who are truly sorting out the country, not those staying behind. Emigration is the unspoken policy to reduce the dole queues. It is the vested interests protecting every cent they can, not young graduates, who are the whingers with the sense of entitlement.

    Comment by Niall
    4.
    February 24, 2010
    12:17 pm

    Said it before and I’ll say it again – we get the system we deserve.

    Fintan O’Toole’s piece yesterday on Willie O’Dea can be expanded on to reflect alot of TDs in the Country.

    It’s a simple cycle, the place is in shit, we blame the establishment. Rather than address the individual components of the establishment, we reward them with our vote for getting that medical card, fixing that pothole, or writing to that Garda.

    In essence, rather than seeing our local government TD as part of the problem, that individual is the one who makes the shit more torerlable.

    Comment by Joe
    5.
    February 24, 2010
    12:47 pm

    Watching those kids on Frontline the other night led me to the unfortunate conclusion that Jedward are unique. I really liked them for their get ‘em attitude and get knocked down and get back up again energy and I’d started to think that their whole generation were like them – albeit with different ambitions – free from all the classic Irish begrudgery and insecurity. They clearly aren’t.
    The country will only change as it’s people change, and judging by the kids on Frontline, that’s not happening.

    Comment by sarah
    6.
    February 24, 2010
    1:12 pm

    The targeting of the youth of today as whining and whingeing is totally unjust and unacceptable. The youth of today are completely justified in expressing their outrage at the actions of the government. I stand with them 100 per cent.

    The notion that young people should face the prospect of unemployment and forced emigration as a “challenge” to be embraced, almost as something fun, as the monumentally horrific Bill Cullen would have you believe, is disgusting to me.

    The fact is the government amassed huge wealth for the state and blew it all. It should have used that wealth to ensure that the young people of our country were not forced to emigrate, were not forced to work for free, etc, etc.

    The enemy here is the government, not the youth. I cannot and will not accept any misdirection on this issue. It is yet another example of how we in this country so often target those who make the complaint rather than keeping our sights focused on the people responsible for the issue itself.

    Comment by Conor Furlong
    7.
    February 24, 2010
    1:14 pm

    No – while I feel tremendous sympathy for people on the dole we have 1.8m in work who are busting a gut to stay in work and keep the country going. Especially the 1.4 million of us in the private sector.

    I don’t have the luxury of the state broadcaster to pontificate on how bad things are out there. I have hours of consultancy to sell to find better ways for business to work to improve our competitiveness and save jobs. End of…

    Comment by robespierre
    8.
    February 24, 2010
    1:52 pm

    “It’s those who’re choosing to stay behind to try to sort out the mess that really should be getting the attention.”

    Here here.

    Also Frontline is definitely starting to veer dangerously close to Dr. Phil territory. Albeit with “heavier” topics.

    Comment by barryb
    9.
    February 24, 2010
    1:56 pm

    niall @ 3 (a) yes, very surprised – and saddened – at how quickly this has happened. (b) Brian Lenihan Snr’s quote of “we can’t all live on a small island” comes to mind again. Not, I hasten to add, that I’m condoning or encouraging emigration.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    10.
    February 24, 2010
    1:58 pm

    Ireland’s safety valve of emigration seems to be the one thing we’ve never quite gotten over throughout our history, be it the independence, Ryanair helping us hide the abortion issue, or endemic joblessness. It’s hard to blame people for leaving in the hope of something better for themselves, when we know the people responsible for mishandling our prosperity can stay as comfortable as they like. If Irish people abroad had the opportunity to vote, maybe there’d be more incentive for the government to actually try and tackle problems head on, but there’s no point wishing for it.
    I’m a young graduate myself, and I was never naíve enough to think it would always be as good as it was, but all the same, this Ireland is not the same one we saw ahead of us through school and college. We’ve been let down as badly as anyone else – even those of us who’ve left to work abroad, where they will at least have a chance of being rewarded for their education. I’d be happy to engage with this political system if I thought there was any hope for it, but it’s hard not to feel disgust for a system that scarcely punishes cheats and liars, that rewards keeping silent, and that puts local politics before the national interest.
    There’s clearly a need for some new party, or political movement, something that will at least force the current politicians to realise how untenable the current system is. There’s a lot of anger waiting for someone to give it voice, for ill or good, and Ireland badly needs to stop bitching and start holding its leaders accountable.

    Comment by shane
    11.
    February 24, 2010
    2:26 pm

    Said it before and I’ll say it again – we get the system we deserve.

    Joe @ 4.
    Indeed, and it was sad to hear Joanna Tuffy defending the electoral status quo on Morning Ireland in the face of, what to me appeared, very reasoned points from Sean Ardagh.

    This ridiculous local client-system will always result in TDs and Ministers being glorified county councilors but turkeys ain’t going to vote for Christmas…

    Comment by Ivor
    12.
    February 24, 2010
    2:36 pm

    “The fact is the government amassed huge wealth for the state and blew it all. It should have used that wealth to ensure that the young people of our country were not forced to emigrate, were not forced to work for free, etc, etc.”

    So, when our government offered us those giddy giveaway budgets what did we do? Refuse the extra cash and demand that the budget surplus be used to improve health, education, infrastructure and social welfare? No, we lapped it up and we voted them back in again. No one cared about building a better society in the boom times. There was no consideration amongst the people of the future, or of society as a whole. We were happy simply to take, to improve our personal position and that was that. So we cannot simply blame the government for all our woes. We have to take some responsibility for the state we are in.

    Comment by Noise Annoys
    13.
    February 24, 2010
    3:21 pm

    conor @ 6 – but expressing outrage is NOT enough. Fuming is NOT a politcal action. Fuming and letting off steam and complaining about your lot in life gets you nowhere.

    shane @ 10 – the problem with any new political party is that it will be a niche one. Political animals believe that progression can only come by climbing the ranks within the existing parties. It’s such a monumental task to get a new political party or movement off the ground – and involves gathering so many like-minded folks and overcoming their hostility towards one another’s ideaogical baggage – that most are defeated before we start. We go back to what seems abundantly clear – the will to force change is not there.

    Ivor @ 11 – clientelism has made our country what it is today

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    14.
    February 24, 2010
    3:22 pm

    Noise Annoys – The people who voted for FF in 2007 are partly responsible, sure, but don’t blame the youth who, by and large, were too young to vote back then.

    Comment by Conor Furlong
    15.
    February 24, 2010
    3:28 pm

    I liked this article in the IT today: “Making philosophy a central element of the education of young people would make the political life of our community more engaged and engaging, and contribute to the robustness of genuinely democratic institutions. In this way, it would be possible, on the one hand, to move beyond the spin of managerial consensualism, and on the other, to leave behind an endless culture of complaint that makes the airwaves rancorous with powerlessness.”

    although it probably falls under your argument about idealism, etc., even just stating those ideals clearly enough has to have some impact.

    contrary to what you said, I don’t think we’re still stuck in Civil War politics – we’re stuck with Civil War parties, which have given up the atavistic rivalry for blander tit-for-tat managerialism (if you can call what FF have been doing for the last decade such – mis-managerialism, perhaps?). I personally intend never voting for either of them (and never have, in the few years I’ve been of age), which unfortunately automatically puts me in a minority in society. the goal has to be to make that minority a majority.

    Comment by gabbagabbahey
    16.
    February 24, 2010
    3:29 pm

    The people who voted for FF in 2007 are partly responsible, sure, but don’t blame the youth who, by and large, were too young to vote back then.

    Conor – stop the lights! Hold on a second fellow, I know maths is not my strong suit but that doesn’t add up.

    Those who are grousing on The Frontline and elsewhere are, in the main, college graduates. If you graduated in 2009, you’re probably around 21-22 (or so) which means you were 19 or so in 2007, right?

    So it is a case that they were too young to vote or weren’t arsed to vote? A big difference.

    contrary to what you said, I don’t think we’re still stuck in Civil War politics – we’re stuck with Civil War parties

    gabbagabbahey – Or maybe we’re stuck with both?

    And that article you refered to is at http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/0224/1224265091578.html

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    17.
    February 24, 2010
    3:44 pm

    Jim – Fair point, absolutely. I’m not just talking about 20 or people on a TV programme. I’m talking about all the youngsters out there who’ve recently finished school or will be graduating from university this summer. They are the ones being affected too and they had no say back in 2007.

    Comment by Conor Furlong
    18.
    February 24, 2010
    4:36 pm

    How many times on this blog have people fulminated about the last election results. Will always remember Ahern on the election night looking insufferably smug with the result. All you have to do is look at the latest polls and they are on their way back up.

    Can anyone distinguish between any of the irish parties? Fine gael and Fianna Fail are basically defined by who negoitated with the british in the twenties and who didnt. All Irish parties are either centrist or to the right. Would even think of Labour as a left wing party.
    There isnt much choice.

    The majority of people who vote are older. They either have their mortgages paid off or else have their pensions. The parties interest is in keeping these people sweet. Hence the climbdown on reducing the state pension and also the medical cards pink haired uprising.

    All you have to do is look at America where within the space of a year a whole new political movement has developed and is now wielding considerable power in the upcoming elections. Granted I completely abhor the political basis of the tea party with their extreme white wing religious agenda ( to be fair they could be called Fianna Fail if they were in this country) but at least they got up off their keyboards and did something.

    Comment by Feathers McGraw
    19.
    February 24, 2010
    5:40 pm

    All you have to do is look at America where within the space of a year a whole new political movement has developed and is now wielding considerable power in the upcoming elections.

    Feathers @ 18
    The new political movement in the US is just basically republicanism nakedly shorn of any pretence of the small bit of social justice stuff the Republicans have to spout to be electable will it change anything? Well the centre left political movement which swept Obama to power is now feeling as betrayed as the Regan religious right felt when Ronnie failed to implement the changes he promised.

    The new political forces we have had in Ireland in the past number of years have all been tainted by coalition and that’s the sad reality. We’ve had it from the right with the PDs and the left/centre left with Labour and the Greens, we had it with independents who made their own version of the Gregory deals for the sake of a road in Clare or a pier in Kerry.

    1989 – the year that politics broke and we’ve started to a little bit more like Italy every day since… (great archive material on RTE site)

    http://www.rte.ie/laweb/ll/ll_t08j.html

    Following a June general election, the results made it very difficult to form a new government. Fianna Fáil failed to win a hoped for overall majority and actually lost seats. The Progressive Democrats also lost seats while Roger Garland won the Green Party’s first seat. A month after the general election, following protracted negotiations, the Progressive Democrats entered coalition with Fianna Fáil to form a new government.

    Comment by Ivor
    20.
    February 24, 2010
    6:06 pm

    Minor statistical point on the thousands leaving the country: last year, the number of Irish people leaving Ireland was the same as the number of Irish people coming back – c18,000. Also, only 27% of those leaving Ireland are Irish.

    http://www.cso.ie/releasespublications/documents/population/current/popmig.pdf

    Comment by Mumblin' Deaf Ro
    21.
    February 24, 2010
    6:59 pm

    @Ivor

    We’ve always only ever had coalition politics or Fianna Fail. Are you saying Fianna Fail on their own would be any better?

    I think corruption in Irish politics predates 1989 by a long shot.

    Comment by Niall
    22.
    February 24, 2010
    7:48 pm

    janey mac!

    Comment by 127.0.0.1
    23.
    February 24, 2010
    7:48 pm

    Jim – just saw your comment to me @16

    Well, if you believe in democracy then the only opportunity we have to change things is through the ballot box. Are you suggesting we stage a coup?? Are you suggesting we overthrow a democratically-elected government?? This country elected this government back in 2007 for a 5 year term. Unless you think we should disregard that entirely valid election and tear up democracy whenever we feel like it, we are stuck with this government until May 2012.

    I hate this government at least as much as you but there is NOTHING we can DO about it until the next general election comes around. (Perhaps it might make people actually use their brains next time around and vote for a party they want to represent them for 5 years.)

    Until that time are we supposed to just stay quiet and not express our outrage?? I’m not claiming that spoken and written words of rage will change anything. Of course they won’t but it still right that these words of rage are continued to be said and expressed and that we hold these elected representatives to account so that when election day does finally come the public don’t forget what happened – which is my great fear in all of this.

    Comment by Conor Furlong
    24.
    February 25, 2010
    10:47 am

    Conor @ 16 – I’m not suggesting a coup! Where did you get that idea from? What I was saying is that fuming/giving out/grousing is NOT enough. Yes, change has to be brought about through the ballot box so where are the plans to bring that into force next time out? Where are the movements and parties and campaigns to ensure we don’t get more of the same next time and swap FF/Green incompetence for more of the same?

    Sure. it’s fine and acceptable to give out yards BUT that has been the way of the walk for nearly 2 years now, since the arse fell out of the econony. The time for talking is over but I have yet to see any indication that those who are most angry and aggrevied are planning any action other than emigrating.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    25.
    February 25, 2010
    10:52 am

    The smoke screen of old Civil War allegiances has long been used by FF and FG to create an illusion of choice. Either you’re for the Brits or against them was the old cry. A bit like George W Bush’s ‘With us or against us’.

    It’s the longest running con in modern Irish politics. FF and FG and one and the same.

    We need to get up from our desks and kitchen tables and dole queues and march on the Dáil when it is in full session and demand the resignation of the Government and not let them leave until they do.

    Comment by Shane
    26.
    February 25, 2010
    11:21 am

    No, a Coup is definitely a great idea…a bit of ‘ActIon Direct’… out on the streets with ye…!
    I have to say along with the ‘Minister for Potholes’ the ‘Minister for Parsnips and Turnips’ is one of the BEST political titles to date, just what you need to go with your ‘Greens’ a few root vegetables!
    I suppose all nations have their characteristics and the Irish are just the BEST at put downs…but there comes a time when the ‘kissing has to stop’ as someone once said to me in slightly different circumstances…but I digress… and I’ve just noticed someone is suggesting a lock-in at the Dail…Even better…Student politics all over again…! What do we want…? When do we want it…?
    Great blog!

    Comment by Blimey O'Riley
    27.
    February 25, 2010
    11:30 am

    I take your point but as we both have said before, there seems to be no evidence to suggest that the majority of people in this country actually want the kind of radical change we want. A recent poll showed FF on 27%. 27%! After everything they’ve done to this country (and not done for this country) the fact that they still have that level of support tells us everything we need to know about the mindset of the Irish public.

    What people seem to forget is that we, as the voting public, have huge power. In the next election we could wipe-out both FF and FG if we wanted to. We could put an end to civil war politics. But when FF inexplicably gets 27% support and FG consistently gets over 30% support what exactly are you or I to do about that?

    How can you say that the time for talking is over? Are those of us who hunger for real change supposed to just shut up and/or leave the country? Is that really what you think?

    Comment by Conor Furlong
    28.
    February 25, 2010
    11:36 am

    How can you say that the time for talking is over? Are those of us who hunger for real change supposed to just shut up and/or leave the country? Is that really what you think?

    Conor – because we’re had too much talking. All there has been is talk and fuming and complaining and grumbling. There has to come a time when that stops or else we’re just conforming to type – the Irish who talk a good game but who don’t know how to act.

    I also NEVER said or implied “those of us who hunger for real change supposed to just shut up and/or leave the country”. But surely enough you must realise that there has been very little else OTHER than talk. It’s fine to talk about change and dream about change and articulate what will happen when change comes along, but it has to be put into action at some stage. And, seeing as we’re not the Greeks and we don’t riot on the streets, that involves a political change at the next election. If that’s the case, the time to start that process is now and instead of talking/moaning/groaning/taking the high moral ground, the dissatisfied and unhappy should be planning with that in mind. Is that happening? Am I missing it?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    29.
    February 25, 2010
    11:49 am

    I absolutely agree with you – there has been zero action. I was at the anti-NAMA protest outside the Dáil last year. If anything should get people out on the streets it surely is the reckless, vile plan that is NAMA.

    Guess how many people were at the protest.

    30.

    If thousands upon thousands of people are not prepared to stand up and protest and fight against that then there is no hope of ANY grass roots action against this government and its policies.

    And I say again, the combined support for FF and FG is in or around 60%. When 60% of the electorate support right-wing, conservative political parties whose policies are more or less identical anyone expecting change is deluding themselves. That is not to say that the minority of us who do want meaningful change should not keep talking about it, keep protesting against it and keep trying to show others that there is an alternative way for a better, fairer, more equal and just society.

    Comment by Conor Furlong
    30.
    February 25, 2010
    12:03 pm

    Niall @ 21
    Since ‘89 we only ever have the prospect of coalition and it’s the deal making that causes the problems in my view, the need to not only deliver for your party, but to be seen to publicly deliver at least one key piece of policy, so you had/have a miniscule, minority party like the PDs implementing a right-wing privatised medicine agenda. It may seem like a good thing when you have the Greens dictating the Government policy on the environment and vegetables but not when they have to roll over on the other dodgy policy agendas. I am not against the policy of a small party trying to keep their larger partners honest, but the nature of the Dail means that they generally have to go along with things, however unpalatable they may seem. I would love to see a genuine coalition; a coalition put together to actually govern, not to worry about the divvying out of junior ministries or who gets first spin in the rotating Taoiseach’s chair.

    Off topic slightly, I’ve been trying to remember a terrific book I read many years ago about the formation of the first FF/PD coalition government and the negotiations for same – It was a damn fine read but I cannot recall either the title or the author – in my mind it was either written by Sean O’Rourke or Stephen Collins, who I know wrote a history of the PDs many years later, anyone know? Google not helping much.

    Comment by Ivor
    31.
    February 25, 2010
    12:20 pm

    //In other countries, they take their protests to the streets; here, we talk to Joe//

    I don’t know about that. The country saw some of the biggest marches it ever saw before Christmas with getupstandup. The Community sector as in CDPs have also been out in force. May not have same frisson of excitement as riots in Greece but it is a whole lot better than liveline.

    One good thing to come out of the last week is the growing realiasation that the revolution will not be on twitter. Don’t think I would feel like been on a street demo/riot where all the participants were studying their iphone.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0220/1224264860222.html

    Comment by enahS
    32.
    February 25, 2010
    12:25 pm

    enahS – I don’t agree with you. I think if you examine the numbers who have protested that there has been a fall-off in the turnout with each subsequent march/protest as protest fatigue sets in. Challenging the current poltical system is not going to be done overnight, which I think many of those who are angry think will happen because everything else in the culture works that way.

    As for the revolition will not be on Twitter – well, that’s completely true. Twitter/Facebook/etc are just the medium – it’s the message that matters. And right now, Irish Twitter addicts seem more keen to tweet about Crystal Swing than anything which will have a long-term effect on this nation.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    33.
    February 26, 2010
    4:50 am

    @Jim Carroll

    “In other countries, they take their protests to the streets; here, we talk to Joe. If it’s not the old wans giving out to Joe Duffy, it’s various reps from the so-called lost generation grumbling about their sense of entitlement to Pat Kenny.”

    I’ve heard this talking-point several times over the last few months, but I just can’t get on board with it.

    Which countries, specifically? Greece? In Greece, there have been significant street protests against the state of affairs – not without justification it has to be said. People have been hurt, property has been damaged and business have been destroyed, and for what?

    Despite all of the rancour, there is no overwhelming desire for radical change in Greece – in fact, the only radical change that is taking place is the Socialist government taking an uncharacteristically sharp knife to the public finances, with the broad support of the majority of citizens. Doesn’t this all sound a little familiar.

    As much as it makes me ill to admit it, I think Mary Coughlan is on to something. As a 23-year-old unemployed college graduate (master’s, as it happens), I just can’t take seriously the idea that my peer group are being forced to emigrate, because my experience tells me the exact opposite.

    There are jobs for well-educated young people in Ireland right now – particularly in Dublin, but also in the other larger towns and cities. Facebook currently has 44 posts advertised – most require a degree, but few require experience. Dell are advertising well over 50 places. Google is over 30 if I remember correctly. These aren’t just jobs that have recently become available – these companies have had shortages for months.

    I know this because I am active in the job market myself while trying to get by on the meagre earnings of a freelance journalist. I know there are tonnes of jobs out there, and I know that if I keep plugging away I’ll find something good, because there ARE plenty of opportunities out there.

    I honestly cringed when I watched the Frontline last night – and the same when I read Shane Fitzgerald’s and others’ sob stories in the Times over the past few months – because what they’re saying is so patently at odds with my own experience. These people, like me, have grown up in a country where getting a job was easy – now that there’s competition for jobs, suddenly they’re throwing the towel in?

    I don’t buy it.

    Can you put your hand on your heart and tell me that it’s easier to get a job in London than it is in Dublin? I’d be very sceptical. Not to hark on about Shane Fitzgerald either, but he wrote that he “had” to move to London, only to find work as a cinema usher. A cinema opened in Rathmines in November – where was he? http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1029/1224257603983.html

    I’m tired of my generation being painted as victims – we don’t deserve it, and it annoys me that my peers are so eager to embrace it. The real losers of the recession aren’t people like me – they’re the under-educated, the construction workers and the low-level service workers who are facing the double-whammy of fewer job opportunities and larger numbers of foreign nationals who are often willing to live in sub-standard conditions to get by.

    Comment by Dave
    34.
    February 26, 2010
    10:05 am

    Dave @ 33 – excellent points and I agree with (nearly) every single one of them. There have been significant public protests in Spain and Portugal as well as Greece – I wasn’t just talking about the riots in Greece, which I should have made clearer

    But your other points about being “forced” to emigrate are ones I’m sure many, many, many people will agree with. No-one is forcing you to emigrate and it is those, like you, who will stay behind to work here who will realy get this country back on track and not those who will throw barbs and moans from out foreign,

    Your comments are just the sort of Op-Ed piece I’d like to see in the paper. Op-Ed Desk please note.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    35.
    February 27, 2010
    2:24 am

    haha thanks. Always good to get things off the old chest at 6am.

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