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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: December 3, 2009 @ 10:47 am

    Irish acts go out foreign

    Jim Carroll

    Four Irish acts will play the annual Eurosonic festival in Groningen in Holland in January. The festival, which began initially as an European Broadcasting Union outing called Eurorock over 20 years ago, now attracts festival bookers and radio programmers from all over Europe and is a brilliant showcase of new European music. It’s where the bookers go to find acts to fill their stages for the summer festivals (thanks to a great scheme called the European Talent Exchange Program) and where the radio folks get to fill their schedules with choice live sessions.

    The Irish acts going Dutch in January are And So I Watch You From Afar (who have a bloody prime spot at the awesome Vera club on the Friday night), Imelda May, Delorentos and Villagers.

    Other acts scheduled to play that we’re really looking forward to seeing include Maria Timm, Annie, Choir Of Young Believers, Ellie Goulding, Everything Everything, FM Belfast and Name the Pet.

    As has always been the case since Eurosonic (and its predecessor Eurorock) began, 2fm will be covering the festival which runs in various venues in Groningen from January 14 to 16.

    In March, the South By Southwest festival turns Austin, Texas from a swell town with great Mexican food and a hell of a lot of venues into a swell town with great Mexican food and a hell of a lot of venues with 2,000 visiting bands.

    Irish bands confirmed for Texas so far include And So I Watch You From Afar (yep, they’re on every festival schedule going in 2010), Autumn Owls (whose lovely new single “Raindrops in the River” is released as a free download from December 11), Dark Room Notes, Fighting With Wire, Halves and So Cow.

    Unasked for advice for these bands: make sure you’re playing gigs every single day. The more gigs you play, the more people will see you. There’s no point in going all that way just to play your official showcase and the annual Irish party. Hustle the various blogs, magazines, radio stations, labels and agencies who throw daytime parties for a spot on the bill. As a starting point, you’ll find info on the parties which happened in 2009 here.

    Other acts playing SXSW 2010 that I’m looking forward to seeing: The Middle East (oh yes!), Fergus & Geronimo (oh yes, take two), Fanfarlo, Giulia y los Tellarini, Harlem, Mountain Man, Japandroids, 9th Wonder, Quantic & His Combo Barbaro, Miles Benjamin Anthony Robinson (new album for Saddle Creek, “Summer of Fear” is very impressive), Trespassers William and XV. Only 104 days to go until SXSW kicks off on March 17.

  • 19 Comments

    1.
    December 3, 2009
    1:01 pm

    Hi Jim,

    WHo decides who goes to these Festivals? Some of these Irish Acts I;ve never heard of.. But the yare all very good! I am a big fan of music and go to many gigs.. I try and follwo what’s hot in irish Music.. Is angela Dorgan one of the main people who decides?

    Comment by Linda
    2.
    December 3, 2009
    1:09 pm

    Linda – in the case of Eurosonic, a number of bands are selected by 2fm and a number of bands apply direct to Eurosonic and are selected that way.

    In the case of SXSW in Texas, ALL the bands are selected by the SXSW organisers based on their music. SXSW have a worldwide panel who listen to every single band who submit material (i think there’s about 7,000 submissions in all) and decide on showcase allocations that way. Not that each judge listens to all 7000 bands mind.

    It’s then up to the bands to work out if it’s worth their time and money and effort to go.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    3.
    December 3, 2009
    1:13 pm

    Thanks for your info.. For SxSw, i was sure that FMC or IMRO have a designated showcase for Irish Acts..

    Comment by Linda
    4.
    December 3, 2009
    1:15 pm

    “t’s then up to the bands to work out if it’s worth their time and money and effort to go.”

    That’s the key question isn’t it? I’ve heard different opinions on this re SXSW. What do you think yourself? I suppose, as you say, if you do as many gigs as possible to get noticed it might be worth the money but with so many bands at it vying for attention it must be very tricky.

    Comment by JC
    5.
    December 3, 2009
    1:23 pm

    Linda – they do a showcase, but they don’t get to select the bands – the bands are selected solely by SXSW

    JC – That’s the big question alright. Personally, I think it’s a total waste of time going to something like SXSW unless you have your shit together on every level to begin with – your songs, your live show, a good management set-up, an actual profile to begin with, interest from US labels/agents etc. You can use showcases like SXSW to attract other players – publishers, labels, agents etc – but you NEED to have the basics in place first.

    And really MUST play a TON of gigs when you go there. So many Irish bands just do their official showcase and the Irish Breakfast Music For Ireland gig and leave it at that. A total waste of time and money and effort. At SXSW, you have to play at least a gig a day to make it worthwhile and to give interested parties a chance to see you.

    All day long every day, there are unofficial parties and showcases going on and people go from one to another checking out new bands. If you’re just playing 2 shows out there, it’s a joke – you need to be playing at least 6-7 shows to give people a chance to see you. You are competing with 2000 bands for attention.

    You can, of course, just do your 2 gigs and have a holiday – but if you’re serious about why you’re going thousands of miles away, spending all that cash, going through all the red tape with US immigration and putting up with the hassle, you should put in the effort to get on as many bills as possible.

    This is “unasked for advice” but bands should not go cribbing to everyone in April about SXSW being a waste of time because they got nothing out of the trip – that’s really their fault for not doing the hard work in advance, not SXSW’s fault.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    6.
    December 3, 2009
    1:47 pm

    Well put Jim. I have often heard of bands saying this.. I have heard the Irish showcase is a waste of time..The same feeling is for CMJ too. Personally, i think, if a band had the Resources they should really try and tour the countryy. Or at least go to the other hotspots for Music like New York….

    “unless you have your shit together on every level to begin with – your songs, your live show, a good management set-up, an actual profile to begin with, interest from US labels/agents etc. ”

    This I wholeheartedly agree with. I look at some irish acts and think why havent they gone abroad and got their Music out there? Is it cos they are comfortable being Local Heroes? Surely something needs to be done to Nurture and help these acts. I know FMC and IMRO exist to help bands but i don’t think they do.. You see its a matter of certain people’s taste’s like 2FM and others.

    There are bands out there who Sell out Venue’s all around Ireland but for some reason dont get chosen or guided.. Some bands who have been slated by your good self( which is not a bad thing just your opinion).

    Do you think the Arts Council will ever help out Alternative Music?

    Comment by Linda
    7.
    December 3, 2009
    2:09 pm

    I have often heard of bands saying this.. I have heard the Irish showcase is a waste of time..

    Linda – I didn’t say that. You are putting words into my mouth there.

    I didn’t say the Irish showcase was a waste of time – I said it was a waste of time and money and resources to JUST do those showcases. A showcase is only as good as the work which a band put into it in terms of getting people along.

    I look at some irish acts and think why havent they gone abroad and got their Music out there? Is it cos they are comfortable being Local Heroes? Surely something needs to be done to Nurture and help these acts.

    There is an old saying that you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink. It’s up to the BANDS themselves to do the hard work. It’s just total laziness and stupidity to leave this to other people and then just bitch about it. It’s up to the bands in each case to start doing the hard work to get gigs and attention in countries other than Ireland. It’s easy (relatively speaking) to do that here, hence why so many acts take the easy option.

    I know FMC and IMRO exist to help bands but i don’t think they do..

    Can you supply some examples of what you mean by this statement?

    You see its a matter of certain people’s taste’s like 2FM and others. There are bands out there who Sell out Venue’s all around Ireland but for some reason dont get chosen or guided.. Some bands who have been slated by your good self( which is not a bad thing just your opinion).

    If you’re talking about 2fm selecting bands for Eurosonic, that’s total bullshit because bands can apply on their own back to Eurosonic and IF THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH, they will be selected.

    Re the second points. Let’s face facts: the bulk of Irish bands, just like the bulk of bands from every other country, are just not good enough to matter an iota beyond their own hometown. And that’s not just my opinion. If bands are good enough, they will be found and discovered. You go on about bands selling out venues up and down the country – maybe it’s time to ask why they never do anything beyond here in that case. Irish people are very good at supporting their own but often that support means bands do not work their butts off to get gigs and attention elsewhere.

    Do you think the Arts Council will ever help out Alternative Music?

    Will there even be an Arts Council after next week’s budget?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    8.
    December 3, 2009
    2:21 pm

    Do you think the Arts Council will ever help out Alternative Music?

    The Arts Council give FMC some funding.

    I know FMC and IMRO exist to help bands but i don’t think they do..

    a) Have you heard of Hard Working Class Heroes & Music for Ireland?

    b) You don’t think, (picking just one example) IMRO’s annual showcase tour and new sounds CD helps to raise the profile of up and coming bands?

    Comment by JC
    9.
    December 3, 2009
    3:25 pm

    Jim, is it just the Irish bands that have a showcase based on the country they are from?

    Comment by nerraw
    10.
    December 3, 2009
    5:37 pm

    JC – also the Choice Music Prize would not exist were it not for the cash from IMRO (and IRMA and RAAP).

    nerraw – no. The Canadians (M is for Montreal), Finnish, Brits, French, Spanish and Brazilians have all done national nights @ SXSW. Oh and the Mexicans too.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    11.
    December 4, 2009
    12:10 am

    Tuesday Blue performed at Eurorock in Liverpool way back in 1986, the first of many irish acts..More here: http://fanningsessions.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/tuesday-blue-eurorock/

    Comment by Fanning Sessions
    12.
    December 4, 2009
    1:41 am

    Jim this is massively off-topic so please feel free to ignore and/or delete this comment but do you (or does anyone) know what day the Hunter-Gatherer album is out?

    Comment by Neill
    13.
    December 4, 2009
    10:11 am

    Fanning Sessions – yep, thanks to Ian Wilson’s involvement in the EBU, there has always been a sizable Irish contingent at Eurorock and Eurosonic

    Neill – Fri Dec 11

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    14.
    December 4, 2009
    6:47 pm

    Thanks Jim!

    Comment by Neill
    15.
    December 7, 2009
    1:11 am

    How does anyone think the Irish acts going to Eurosonic will do?

    Comment by Gouj
    16.
    December 8, 2009
    10:36 am

    Jim, might I suggest you add The Mantles to your list of bands to check out at sxsw. The album they released back in September is one of my favourites of 2009. Of the records Siltbreeze has released in recent times, it’s probably the most true to the label’s aesthetic.

    I really like The Intelligence as well, but not so sure how they’d be in a live setting. On the other hand, while I rarely listen to Shit and Shine on record, they are nothing short of immense live.

    Comment by Fiona
    17.
    December 8, 2009
    10:54 am

    Fiona – thanks for those tips. You were the one, after all, who told me to check out Girls at last year’s fest!

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    18.
    December 8, 2009
    3:22 pm

    Always happy to share finds :) I was totally jealous as I didn’t get to see them ’til October!

    Re Harlem: They blitzed sxsw this year which seems to have solidified the buzz that they’d already built up locally. Garagey-pop-rock-n-roll is my earcandy, yet buzz and all, Harlem fail to stand out for me. Have you heard any of their new material yet? Not sure if promos have been circulated at this point – think the new album’s release date is still tbc. The one advance track I’ve heard, again, didn’t do it for me. I’d love to have the album change my opinion tho.

    They, along with 15 or so others, crop up on Casual Victim Pile, an Austin-centric compilation to be released next month. That I’ll definitely dip into.

    Comment by Fiona
    19.
    December 8, 2009
    3:46 pm

    Fiona – will definitely check out that album. Harlem are on my to-see list because of all the post-SXSW09 buzz but hearing new stuff might see them struck off that list!

    Comment by Jim Carroll

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