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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: November 5, 2009 @ 12:27 pm

    25 years of Morning Ireland

    Jim Carroll

    RTE Radio One’s Morning Ireland marked a quarter-century of broadcasts with their first show in front of a studio audience this morning.

    For listeners/watchers in the studio audience, it was a chance to see exactly what goes into the making of the country’s most listened-to radio show aside from those pre-dawn starts for the presenters. For those at home, there was a couple of special guests (like President Mary McAleese, Brian Cowen, Des Bishop and Cathy Kelly) to go with the usual mix of news, sports, newspaper reviews, business reports (still the foreign language section of the show) and analysis.

    Best of all, there were cameos from the two Davids – Hanly and Davin-Power – who presented the first shows back in November 1984. I wonder did they know that this pic would still be in use 25 years later….

    2davids.jpg

    …or that the show would still be top of the news agenda all those years on. As both mentioned as they remembered the ‘84 debut, the idea of a news show at breakfast time met with resistance both within and without RTE at the time. Mike Murphy was doing the breakfast gig and it was felt that light music and chat was a better draw than heavyweight politics and current affairs. Even with BBC Radio Four’s Today programme setting a precedent across the Irish Sea, the notion of a heavy-hitting news programme in the morning was viewed as a radical move by the RTE powers-that-be.

    But the show persevered. It survived such early opposition, consolidated its grip on the schedule and thrived in an era when media giants are supposed to be struggling. It’s fair to say that in an era of instant news updates via a myriad of different mediums that Morning Ireland more than holds its own. Even on a station wall to wall with other news and talk shows – from fellow agenda-setters like the News At One, especially when Sean O’Rourke is in the presenter’s chair (still the best news man RTE Radio One have), to the horrendous headbangers hour that is Liveline – Morning Ireland is still the one which gets the audience and, by extension, the attention from anyone who wants to get their message to those 460,000 people.

    It helps that the show really has no viable competition in the morning news stakes. Despite several attempts by Newstalk to grab the headlines with presenters like Eamon Dunphy and David McWillians (and Claire Byrne and Ivan Yates at present) doing chat alongside cornflakes down through the years, Morning Ireland is still the one which gets the huge numbers. What’s interesting is that their pre-eminient position has not induced complacency. Sure, the formula – news+sports+traffic+interviews+papers+analysis+occasional light fluffy stuff+business – does not really change, but that’s the meat and two veg of a show like this.

    The real selling point is the bond between presenters and audience and how they reel in their prey, sorry, guest politicians, spinners, spoofers, chancers and journalists who got an unexpected wake-up call from a producer at 7am. Whereas you all too often get grandstanding and showboating elsewhere with presenters over-keen to be the centre of attention, there’s an honesty to Morning Ireland’s style which strikes a chord with the listener. We know from experience that there have been many, many times down through the years when a Morning Ireland presenter has harrassed and hounded a guest who has been trying to hide behind bluff and blather. That’s what we tune in and that’s what we expect. Here’s hoping that they’ll continue to do just that for years to come – with panache and politeness at all times, of course.

  • 23 Comments

    1.
    November 5, 2009
    12:53 pm

    what’s hanley up to now? seems to have completely disappeared, has he retired? been ill? emigrated?

    Comment by jim comic
    2.
    November 5, 2009
    1:06 pm

    jim – he retired a few years ago.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    3.
    November 5, 2009
    1:17 pm

    At least it keeps Maxi off the air. I lived in the UK for a while and I came back I couldnt switch the radio fast enough when the radio came on at 7am , scratching glass would be more pleasant then listening to a nice classical piece only to be followed up with some country and western, thankfully they start at 7am now.
    Its a good show but unless you get it in the car its difficult to catch a straight hour of it.

    Comment by Liam
    4.
    November 5, 2009
    1:18 pm

    Nicely put, Jim. It’s quite refreshing, isn’t it, that in this day and age (and Christ, that makes me sound like the right old git) a show can thrive that doesn’t talk down to its listeners. No bollocksology with ‘text us with your comments’, no facebook page fuck-aboutery, no Twitter twattery; rather it’s ‘here’s the news, and after that we’ll be eating some clueless political hack for your delectation’

    Comment by ivan
    5.
    November 5, 2009
    1:23 pm

    David Davin-Power has a serious Brian O’Driscoll head in that photo

    Comment by Stampy
    6.
    November 5, 2009
    1:28 pm

    What’s interesting is that their pre-eminent position has not induced complacency. Sure, the formula – news+sports+traffic+interviews+papers+analysis+occasional light fluffy stuff+business – does not really change, but that’s the meat and two veg of a show like this.

    While I agree that it is the original and best show of its kind, I think there has been, over the last year or two, an editorial looseness and, at times, sloppiness, that makes me shake my fist at the radio. I know it’s a live show and items can run long but when it happening every day, every hour it looks bad.

    In terms of presenters, like Liverpool, it still doesn’t seem to know its strongest line-up and can sometimes struggle when the fringe players are in: Aine Lawlor and Richard Downes are terrific broadcasters, Cathal Mac Coille can be quite brilliant when he is fully on it – like his skewering of Cathal Goan (IIRC) over RTE’s arts coverage – (the Dave Fanning reviewing sculpture question) – he just needs to focus the rage.

    In terms of reporters, the business desk is rock solid; sport is more than adequate and, after a most uncertain start, they seem to have a bit of a gem in Cian McCormack.

    Overall, for me it just needs a bit of tighter editing, a bit of refreshing the contacts book and more resources – they have a very small budget for a show of its influence – and could make a great programme even better.

    p.s. Hanly was ill for a while but is much mended now.

    Comment by Ivor
    7.
    November 5, 2009
    1:30 pm

    that is brian o’driscoll….right?

    Comment by petee
    8.
    November 5, 2009
    2:26 pm

    remember them all well. Scariest thing is we have just come full cycle, economically. Found Mary a little cheasy though. I remember El Presidente climbing on the FF bandwagon just as corruption tribunals were about to begin with FF’s to the fore in them, hard to forgive.

    Comment by Paul0690
    9.
    November 5, 2009
    2:32 pm

    RTE is still public sector government radio. Have no time for RTE’s current affairs agenda it is by and large pro-Union and anti-business as evidenced by Pat Kenny, Primetime and many other examples.

    Morning Ireland may be a valiant ship but it switches items too readily without delving into them. There is also the “RTE House Style” of interviewing and the fact that items are pursued on their only appearance like the hounds of hell and then dropped never to be heard again.

    A bunch of clipboard journalists with little to commend them. No substance. No style.

    Comment by robespierre
    10.
    November 5, 2009
    3:35 pm

    david-davin power got a serious Dirk Diggler head on him

    Comment by dp cooper
    11.
    November 5, 2009
    3:41 pm

    No bollocksology with ‘text us with your comments’, no facebook page fuck-aboutery, no Twitter twattery; rather it’s ‘here’s the news, and after that we’ll be eating some clueless political hack for your delectation’

    ivan – and that’s why 460,000 people tune in every day.

    ivor – I hear you but I think that comes down to something which is evident right across RTE’s news coverage right now and that is the search for the “light” topic to sweeten the doom and gloom. I know from talking to some RTE hacks that they’re always looking out for those “and finally…” stories and I think the Morning Ireland format doesn’t suit that.

    paul069 – once a politician…..

    robespierre – items are pursued on their only appearance like the hounds of hell and then dropped never to be heard again.

    Thanks for reminding me. THAT is one of the bugbears of most news shows – you have a big brouhaha when some report or survey or new innovation is announced and then, nothing. Often you get another report or survey or innovation coming along which is the exact SAME as the previous one but no-one makes the link. That, though, can be applied to every brand of the media and not just MI.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    12.
    November 5, 2009
    3:43 pm

    D P-P looks lke the love-child of Ron Burgundy and Brian O’Driscoll. Very Anchormanesque, that photo. Prefer Newstalk’s morning programme myself.

    Comment by Quint
    13.
    November 5, 2009
    4:51 pm

    Jim,

    Your colleague Harry McGee has a nice piece on his blog about his time on Morning Ireland.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/politics/2009/11/05/morning-ireland-and-25-years/

    I listen to it every morning. Sometimes I shout back at it, but it’s essential listening for anyone following current affairs. They’ve improved their international coverage a bit in recent times too.

    Ro

    Comment by Mumblin' Deaf Ro
    14.
    November 5, 2009
    5:25 pm

    David Hanley with his serious approach and Satchmo-like voice added a new word to the English language……Graveltas.

    Comment by Frank Jameson
    15.
    November 5, 2009
    6:54 pm

    David Hanley – what a voice and what a legend. Met him once on the Dublin-Westport train: an absolute gentleman.

    Would like to see a bit more confrontational questioning by the current crew, who seem to be a bit lightweight. Maybe they are being shackled by the DG and internal RTE policy, political correctness and all that guff.

    As for David Davin-Power, the photograph becomes him; looks like he was a trendy left-winger in his day!

    Comment by Terry
    16.
    November 5, 2009
    10:30 pm

    Haven’t listened to that crap show for ages. It’s all sport, lightweight interviewing and promotion of other dead-end rte programmes. Overpaid, opinionated presenters plugging their own protectionist agenda. Time to radically shake up the organisation. Increase productivity and drastically reduce costs. Time to drag that finance sucking monster rte into 2009. And any bull about how many who listen or how difficult it is to get “good” broadcasters is purely that “utter crap”.

    Comment by Emily
    17.
    November 5, 2009
    10:52 pm

    Have no time for RTE’s current affairs agenda it is by and large pro-Union and anti-business as evidenced by Pat Kenny, Primetime and many other examples.

    That’s funny, I’ve been told the opposite lately, that RTE is anti-union and right wing. ‘Fianna Fáil’s Pravda’ the phrase that was used.

    Comment by Joe
    18.
    November 6, 2009
    9:57 am

    @ Joe

    I work with business of all shapes and sizes from sales to finance to IT and I don’t think RTE is helped by the fact that in Radio especially people are not moved on much and that once you are in the stable and on the payroll they have to find something for you to do.

    Newstalk has its faults but it has had a relatively high turnover not just because some presenters didn’t register with the public but because the 45’s plus don’t really fidget with the dial on the radio.

    About 1/3 of MI listeners listen to it because it is MI – more power to them. Most of the rest only listen to bealach a h’aon.

    At least with Ivan Yates who is getting better at the job he does understand business especially from a SME perspective, he understands farming and he also has an insiders knowledge of the political system. Notwithstanding all that if Yates figures go down he or his co-presenter or both will be replaced.

    That is the free market, that is why RTE don’t get it and that is also why I and many others that work in business look at RTE in dismay but not with much surprise.

    Incidentally, I complete agree with you about FF Pravda, but I don’t think unions are far off. The “interview” with Ahern was the nadir of “public sector broadcasting”.

    Comment by robespierre
    19.
    November 6, 2009
    1:09 pm

    Morning Ireland is a welcome antidote to all the other news programs on radio which are really just a vehicle for the presenter’s opinions. Has Eamon Keane on Newstalk ever gone an entire show without giving a “State of the Union” address?

    Comment by raresteak
    20.
    November 6, 2009
    1:13 pm

    Emily @ 16 – we’re talking about morning ireland here, not the Derek Mooney show

    rarestreak @ 20 – spot on. That’s a huge weakness for so many other news/current affairs shows, the egospasm from the presenter to be the main focus. Enough, already. In many ways, this MI strength comes from the fact there is a formula which does not change week in or week out.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    21.
    November 6, 2009
    2:41 pm

    Dear Emily. Have you ever thought of opening a charm school?

    Comment by Frank Jameson
    22.
    November 6, 2009
    2:56 pm

    There does seem to have been a noticeable pro-Government and anti-union shift recently in the tone of the show. Just after RTE staff were targeted in the public pay ‘outrage’ the presenters started leading for the prosecution in all interviews with any union spokesperson or anyone one with non-government approved views. Structurally as well there have been changes; I’ve noticed that clips of interviews with people who speak against cutting public expenditure are replayed from earlier in the morning’s show in order to be ‘refuted’ down the phone by one of the usual tame pro-Government economists who appear on RTE radio all the time. The other day Professor David Blanchflower was on and said that the public sector was the saviour of the economy at the moment and that it would be madness to cut it. A while later a home-grown economist was rustled up to argue against the professor’s views, but of course without Professor Blanchflower being able to respond. The economist sneered that the professor was just giving us his ‘Economics 101′ course. The impression intended to be left was that the professor was a bit of a simpleton, an academic who didn’t undertsand ‘the real world’ and who didn’t understand how ’special’ Ireland’s economic problems are, whereas in reality he is a world-class economist trusted by many governments, and in particular was the only one of the seven members of the British Government’s Monetary Policy Committee to have foreseen the recession in 2007-8 and to have consistently voted for interest rate cuts, when all the other six members were voting to increase them, with the disastrous effects we can now see. His opinion was thus very valuable but he received very disrepectful treatment, verging on the dishonest. I imagine the show had received a call making them an offer they couldn’t refuse.

    Comment by Gordon
    23.
    November 7, 2009
    1:49 pm

    Nice as your comments are there, JIm, let’s face it: the vast majority of RTE news presenters have fallen into the ratings-chasing trap of commercial stations. They no longer even breathe between sentences. They aggressively “interview” their guests with manners that would get them ejected from McDonalds. They are no longer journalists. I designate them THE INTERRUPTORS.

    Comment by Conorbonnerboo

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