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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: August 11, 2009 @ 9:56 am

    Unasked for advice: what Rupert Murdoch can learn from the music business

    Jim Carroll

    When Rupert growls, the newspaper industry listens. Of course, it helps that he is airing his plans for readers of News Corp publications to pay for online content right bang at the start of the silly season when there just isn’t a lot else going on. These pronouncements also come at a time when the newspaper industry feels like starting the final countdown clock such is the doom and gloom about the place. Just as the music industry saw Steve Jobs as its knight in a black poloneck on a white horse, Rupe may be about to play a similar role for the media business.

    There have been a plethora of pieces about the current state of affairs coming from every direction – Elaine Byrne, for instance, has a very good piece in today’s paper about how the current recession will change this industry – but few have actually done what Murdoch has done and stated the bleeding obvious. In a time when advertising revenue is not enough to pay the bills, online content cannot continue to be free.

    In this aspect alone, Murdoch is more at the races than the music business has been for the last few years. As the “advertising will pay for everything online” chickens come home to roost, there are still some in the business of selling music who think this is just a blip we’re going through. You can’t really blame them because, for the last few years, every single new business model pimp in the business was promising scams which would deliver the sun, the moon and the stars for a bite of their catalogue. And what was paying for all these nibbles? Oh yes, advertising revenue. Did it not strike people that if advertising revenue was suddenly so much in demand that there were would be a corresponding rise in outlets for this limited ad revenue meaning less to go around for everyone? Junior Cert economics, dudes.

    That aside, all eyes are now on how News Corp will implement the wishes of their lord and master. Yesterday’s Guardian took a look at how the music, movie and games industries have dealt with the issue of getting customers to pay for online content. In the case of the music business, Kevin Anderson mentioned the obvious bits and bobs like pay-per-track downloads, streaming subscriptions and value-added products.

    A variation on the above could be utilised by News Corp when it goes to war next year with probably a relaunched Sunday Times website. But again, it’s the bleeding obvious lessons which need to be learned and implemented. After all, these are the lessons the music business did not take onboard until it was too late.

    For a start, the customer is now king, something which some of the record labels have still not taken onboard. The reason why iTunes and Spotify proved to be the winners in the great online raffle rather than Spiralfrog, PressPlay or MusicNet is because they gave the customer just what he or she is looking for, rather than what the industry thought they wanted. Punters wanted a system which was a no-brainer, a brilliantly deep and wide catalogue and superb ease of use. The record labels spent millions – and years – coming up with their own harebrained online schemes and plans which their customers didn’t use because those sites were too bulky and unwieldy. Note to the Digger: there is no point in spending millions coming up with an all-singing, all-dancing newspaper site where the payment system is as complicated as the business analysis.

    Another challenge which Murdoch will face is getting all his peers on the same page. While every single newspaper owner will, for once (well, maybe aside from Wapping and they certainly didn’t cheer him in public for that) salute Murdoch’s aims in this regard, there is bound to be a few rufuseniks who will see this as a golden opportunity. If everyone else is charging for their content, they will reason, we can remain free and reap the rewards. A quick look at how the music industry dealt with piracy and filesharing will show him a couple of examples of what not to do in this regard.

    But the biggest challenge Murdoch and every other player in the newspaper business will face is how to get people to pay for a product which they have become used to consuming for free. Sure, there are sites which you need to pay a subscription or a per-article fee, but these are premium products in the main and aimed at a very specialised, usually niche audience. What we’re talking about here is implementing a payment system for products which many people have never paid for. But here again come those aforementioned Junior Cert economics lessons. You may have less readers, but you will at least have more revenue than you had starting out. And, unlike the music business which continued to spend money it didn’t have and would never earn on ridiculous superstar contracts and all the trimmings, this will mean less resources all round. Time to batten down them hatches.

  • 29 Comments

    1.
    August 11, 2009
    10:25 am

    If I had an iPhone or something equivalent and the Guardian had all its content up, I’d pay for a yearly subscription. I think people would consider paying for news content if it was more available and adapted for viewing on mobiles. Maybe I’m wrong…

    Comment by bren
    2.
    August 11, 2009
    10:37 am

    bren – i’m sure that’s on the to-do list. One thing I didn’t mention above is that, of course, Murdoch should know only too well what music business pitfalls to avoid having spent a large amount of hisdollars on MySpace!

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    3.
    August 11, 2009
    10:39 am

    Time to batten down them hatches.

    Too true, and not just national papers but the lil locals are tightening up too. However, the big difference between the regional papers and the nationals, as far as I can see and from my own experience, is that the locals haven’t suffered too much of a dip in sales (in our case anyway). The local papers are bought weekly with the groceries, they go along with your bread, milk etc.
    I honestly think with the right frame of mind the problems the national papers are having should present an opportunity to the local rags to up their game in the market. Three problems are

    1) Even if sales are strong, ad revenue is down (though again from my experience it is only slightly)
    2) I dont think the will is there with many local papers to do anything to change, especially in this climate. As far as many of the old heads ruling the local roost, its a case of ‘if it aint broke.’ They’ll never look to capture new demographics for example (the amount of stories I could tell on that front…)
    3) Even i sales are ok, and revenue is only down slightly, the locals are a first step for aspiring journos who were on pittance even at the height of the boom. It’s just one example of how these ships are run on a tight tight basis to maximise profits at the expense of quality and the vision to do anything other than the tried and tested.

    Every crisis offers opportunity, but methinks the local media wont capitalise on this one.

    Comment by Joe
    4.
    August 11, 2009
    10:51 am

    However, the big difference between the regional papers and the nationals, as far as I can see and from my own experience, is that the locals haven’t suffered too much of a dip in sales (in our case anyway). The local papers are bought weekly with the groceries, they go along with your bread, milk etc.

    Joe – That’s an interesting point but I wonder will this be the case in the medium to long term? Like what is happening with papers worldwide, are the readers not dying out? Are younger readers (say the ones under 21 at the moment) going to keep buying those regionals in the years to come? Or is it the case that Ireland’s shite national broadband reach is going to save the Irish local press?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    5.
    August 11, 2009
    10:53 am

    Yeah myspace was a disaster for Murdoch. I still think there’s massive potential there that hasn’t been realised. ie a first stop shop for checking out bands (could be a first point of purchase too) and a pretty comprehensive listing service (which should be selling tickets too.)

    It’s funny that people are still trying to get to grips with the interweb and new media after all this time.

    Comment by bren
    6.
    August 11, 2009
    10:59 am

    Joe – That’s an interesting point but I wonder will this be the case in the medium to long term? Like what is happening with papers worldwide, are the readers not dying out? Are younger readers (say the ones under 21 at the moment) going to keep buying those regionals in the years to come?

    Which is exactly what I mean in my second point, in terms of problems going forward. There’s no will to address this issue, its a head in the sand attitude from the people in charge. I’m sure I’m not the only reporter in his 20s at a regional paper who gets immensely frustrated at the direction many papers take. As it happens I’m leaving the paper soon and taking a bit of a career change, but even if I came back next year, or in five years time nothing will have changed. That’s what I mean when I say many locals are missing the boat to up their market.

    Comment by Joe
    7.
    August 11, 2009
    11:29 am

    Joe – Yes, local papers sales are holding up but advertising is where they make their money. And looking at my local papers, they are carrying much less ads than two years ago, so their revenue must be down a lot. At the same time, they’ve been cutting costs all over the business – particularly in the numbers of admin and production staff as their parent companies now insist on most of this work being done from central hubs covering many newspapers.

    And yes, they feel no incentive to improve their online presence. The most popular local newspaper here has a very patchy website, often not carrying some articles from the print edition. Therefor people still feel obliged to buy the print edition. No doubt the proprietors are hoping that Murdoch’s initiative will see the online subscription model become the standard for all quality papers. So, they’ll gladly wait to see how this scenario pans out and continue to cut costs in the meantime.

    But how do you think local papers can capitalise on what’s happening now?

    Comment by Eoin
    8.
    August 11, 2009
    12:13 pm

    The voice group of papers down the country are gone by the wayside. however I think the more established ones are part of the weekly routine I think they will continue down to the sports coverage getting younger buyers also they have good coverage of local issues that I have yet to see many community websites set up to cover these topics in as balanced a way as done by the local press.

    Comment by spacey
    9.
    August 11, 2009
    12:32 pm

    Anecdotal evidence is that many local papers’ websites are used by ex-pats and those who’ve moved away from home – are they going to pay to access those sites to get the sports news, obits and local notes once a paywall goes up?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    10.
    August 11, 2009
    12:39 pm

    Jim did you read Charlie Brooker in the G2 section of the Guardian yesterday on this topic? Very, very funny, and his ultimate ’suggestion’ for how to encourage people to pay for news content online is hilarious…

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/10/charlie-brooker-iphone

    Comment by Neill
    11.
    August 11, 2009
    12:40 pm

    on the record 2010 fees jim?

    those month long holidays in the bahamas don’t pay for themselves

    Comment by petee
    12.
    August 11, 2009
    12:48 pm

    Neill – Brooker has hit the nail on the head in another from the Stating The Bleeding Obvious dept and something the music industry took years to work out – the payments system for a switch from free to pay-for has to be right. I know it sounds like the most commonsense thing of all, but these commonsense things are often overlooked

    petee – i hope so /rubs hands with glee/. Even better – a pay-per-comment system depending on what you are fuming or complaining about. Irish bands? 1c. Ticket prices? 2c (plus booking fee). Can’t get your hands on tickets? 5c (well, you have the money, don’t ya?). Plugs on the OTR weekly noticeboard? 10c a pop

    Is this a winner I see before me?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    13.
    August 11, 2009
    12:52 pm

    This issue has been debated back and forth on a few sites, notably on http://www.techdirt.com/.

    Among the points made there is that free competition for newspapers is just overwhelming. News is not a proprietory product. If one site is charging and another is free, the vast majority of people will go for the free one, even if they’d marginally prefer to get it from the established source.

    Another problem that Murdoch will have is that, even if all other papers go to a pay model (unlikely), the BBC never will, and that’s a news gathering behemoth. It’s already one of the world’s biggest sites, and will always be free. You could apply the same to the IT and RTÉ.

    All told, I think the paid content model for news papers is by no means guaranteed to succeed. I feel it’s in an even worse position than music, because the alternative free product is legal, and ubiquitous.

    Comment by Micheál
    14.
    August 11, 2009
    12:52 pm

    It’s frustrating to see this type of article on the Irish Times, of all newspapers.

    Does nobody at the Irish Times remember that less than a year ago, the Irish Times was one of the only “quality” newspapers that was essentially subscription only? If any major newspaper in the English speaking world knows exactly what the difference between ad-supported and subscription based revenue models is, it should be the Irish Times.

    Comment by Aengus
    15.
    August 11, 2009
    1:01 pm

    The owners of local papers and Murdoch are on two totally different levels, money and power-wise; but they are both seeking the same thing: more readers and more more money.

    Like Joe I write for a regional paper and have found that it’s only been in the past year my paper has been trying to get ‘with’ the internet and use the website as more than just a digital archive. Things are a lot slower-moving than they are in Murdoch’s world, but it’s heartening to see people making an effort. Interestingly, it seems to be the sports editors who are making the biggest strides in our group of newspapers, whereas in the news departments things are moving much more slowly. But we’re getting there.

    That all said, the question remains of whether people will begin to use the website instead of buying the paper. Obviously, as has been mentioned here, the older generations tend to be the ones who buy the newspaper. So feasibly in the next few decades sales will start to fall off even more dramatically as the older generations decline and the ‘newer’ generations continue their love affair with the internet.

    But it’s not really a question of 25 year olds logging on to the websites of regional newspapers in droves – we all know that isn’t the case. What newspaper editors and managers need to discover is what drives people to visit their website – monitoring what content people view, when, and from where, and using that to inform everything else they put on the site.

    When it comes to Murdoch, he has infinitely more resources at his disposal and so his decisions come down to what you have outlined above Jim – how can he get people to pay for content they are used to accessing for free? It’s no longer easy to convince people to part with their hard-earned cash unless they feel they are really getting something for their money.

    It’s often a case of trial and error though – seeing what works and what doesn’t. And doing a lot of research into what sites are doing that is working – and using that to inspire your own work. The ideal scenario of course is to come up with your own unique or new idea that attracts customers…it remains to be seen whether Murdoch (or rather, his employees in charge of the project…) will achieve that.

    Comment by sweetoblivion
    16.
    August 11, 2009
    1:04 pm

    jim
    only premium members to be able to plug on a friday
    but with this you also get free ‘far side’ request on a tuesday

    Comment by petee
    17.
    August 11, 2009
    1:58 pm

    sweet – very good points, though it’s the “how can he get people to pay for content they are used to accessing for free?” question which everyone will be most interested in seeing Murdoch solve. You can be sure if he does produce a solution that every paper and publication won’t be long in following him. After all, the alternative – people refuse to pay for hitherto free content – would mean you could start the countdown clock right away. Newspapers and publications can’t and won’t continue to subsidise online free content because the revenue to do so just ain’t there.

    petee – what a splendid idea – cross-subsidisation of my various media brands. Maybe I should go on Twitter and charge for that too……

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    18.
    August 11, 2009
    2:33 pm

    bloody hell jim people would need to re-mortgage their houses to follow stephen fry if twitter charged

    Comment by petee
    19.
    August 11, 2009
    2:39 pm

    petee – but surely there is going to have to come a point where Twitter has to charge users? I don’t know much about their business plan – they have a business plan, right? – but I would assume revenue comes into it at some point. Now that the great “Advertising Will Pay For Everything Online” has turned out to be as truthful as the last Fianna Fail general election manifesto, how will Twitter pay the bills?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    20.
    August 11, 2009
    2:41 pm

    Jim,

    The fact of the matter is newspapers just aren’t good enough at what they do. How many news articles would you pay 20c to read from today’s Irish Times? Consider that the paper costs just €1.80 in print form…

    Now, the reasons they are not good enough are numerous. One, journalists aren’t given enough time to be journalists, so large lumps of content can end up as rewritten pressers – this comes down to cost. Two, the platform – print – is awful for what news organisations should be doing (I’ll get to this momentarily), while newspapers’ websites largely reflect the old model, except they’re online. And three, nobody knows if the paper is worth buying until they’re bought and read the paper.

    Problem one is something that has been brewing over time, journalists usually no longer cover areas in the way they used to, we now have “news journalists” – like that’s an area in itself – instead of journalists covering a beat. On top of that, stats from the Pew Institute, if memory serves, said US journalists write five times the amount of copy they wrote 20 years ago, this isn’t healthy for the quality of news. I’d imagine it’s reflected here.

    Problem two is the real issue though. Print only goes in one direction – from journalist to reader. Young people don’t do one direction. We text, email, Facebook, Bebo, tweet and chat our way through life – between each other – if one friend says something to another on Facebook, I read and jump in. It’s a big web (no pun) of conversation, it’s immediate and on-going. Newspapers happen once a day, overnight, when all the news is over. This is especially evident in Irish newspapers, we lack a culture of investigative journalism and thus most news in newspapers is yesterday’s news – already reported on RTÉ or Irishtimes.com the day prior. Just the opinion, supplements and features are worth getting.

    This wouldn’t be a problem however if newspapers became part of the conversation, but most of them refuse to. Most newspapers haven’t developed Facebook apps because Facebook is flippant and below them, yet their audience is all over Facebook. Newspaper are supposed to be the centre of the community, discussing what should be discussed and reporting what needs to be reported to readers. But the discussion has moved on and they refuse to chase it. People discuss things on Boards, Facebook etc, on newspapers, and most of their websites, news is published. I might read the news on Irishtimes.com, but if I want to talk about it I go to Boards.ie or Politics.ie, and I comment, and I go back, and back again, and again. And I make a page impression every time.

    Most – if not all, bar the Guardian – don’t foster debate on their website, instead they leave it to sites like Politics, Boards and The Property Pin to discuss what they work hard to report. They’re out of the loop. Why is the debate about the news happening on third-party websites? The eye-balls come back to them; they’d see adverts if the debate was fostered here, but newspapers don’t allow that. This is somewhat reflected in the fact I’m commenting here rather than on Elaine Byrne’s article (though the Irish Times has made great strides online in the last number of months, which is encouraging). On top of that, newspapers – and media orgs in general – haven’t looked beyond advertising online as a picture somewhere on-screen (like print), and thus haven’t profited from the possibilities of the web. Again, it’s a refusal to think differently. There is not scarcity of space online, why aren’t newspapers housing off areas of their websites for advertisers who want to engage with customers? Why not host a blog for Vodafone, who are already engaging with customers online, on irishtimes.com? And charge them for the fact Irishtimes.com gets so many more viewers than Vodafone. Why not allow readers to submit blog posts via a comment form like the one I’m typing this into now and display the best post every few days as readers’ blog, to give the site a peer-to-peer feeling? These are things that newspapers cant, won’t, or will not, think of… thus, young readers will remain where they can speak with others on a peer-to-peer level in a constant conversation. That’s Facebook, Boards, Twitter, Bebo, etc…

    The third problem is the real reason why nobody will buy newspapers online. I don’t know if an article is worth reading until I’m done reading it, so I’ll go somewhere else, ask someone on Facebook for a synopsis, or ignore it. Simple as. I wouldn’t pay a bus fare if I didn’t know the bus was going somewhere useful…

    Of course, the other issue comes from the fact that some blogs are far better than some opinion pieces. Would I have paid for Elaine’s piece this morning? Maybe. Would I have paid for it now after I have read Jeff Jarvis’s take on it on Buzzmachine? Probably not. Would I have paid for the 100 word Irish Times article on page nine today headlined “Ahmadinejad purges intelligence ministry”… definitely not – I can read an in-depth piece and an analysis for free on Tehran Bureau, a news blog written by Iranian journalists.

    In summary, the fact young people don’t read newspapers – or newspaper websites – is because there are better ways to get news. The fact people won’t pay for news online is because news sites simply aren’t good enough. This isn’t a failure of individual newspapers – some, like the IT are doing all they can – it’s of the media industry in general.

    Enjoy the blog.

    Mark

    Comment by Mark Coughlan
    21.
    August 11, 2009
    3:08 pm

    jim at least if twitter charge then maybe people will stop announcing to the world they’ve just had a shit or gone down the shops.
    i can’t see how anyone will pay for myspace/facebook/twitter.

    Comment by petee
    22.
    August 11, 2009
    3:37 pm

    well here’s facebook on the attack

    http://www.crn.com/software/219200074;jsessionid=WSJP304ZM3DIDQE1GHRSKH4ATMY32JVN

    Comment by petee
    23.
    August 11, 2009
    3:37 pm

    Mark – thanks for the comment and good analysis of the current problems – though if we’re honest, they’re not as much current as legacy issues from a couple of decades of good times. A bit, it has to be said, like the record business which enjoyed decades of top-drawer revenue and windfall profits before they were called out when digital became the way of the walk.

    I’ve long agreed with the belief, articulared by your “just the opinion, supplements and features are worth getting” comment, that newspapers have become less and less about the news and more and more about the analysis. Newspapers can’t compete on news alone for all the reasons we know so well. We find out about our news in a heap of ways which would be unthinkable to newspaper readers of old. Whatever about breaking news sites, Twitter, news feeds etc, I’m willing to bet that many people find about their news via word-of-mouth from friends – phone calls, texts, emails. Sure, this was how news spread of old but the speed has changed. It means the following day’s papers are already at a remove – unless the paper has some awesome exclusive (see the Daily Telegraph and its Scoop of the Year with MPs expenses, which the Trib tried to emulate with The Bull and the Dept of Fun)

    As for newspapers becoming part of the conversation, this is changing – you’re talking to me and I’m talking right back at you – but the rate of change is too slow. Jumping into a new mode with all guns blazing is not enough – look at the amount of newspapers with Twitter feeds or blogs because it’s the thing to do or to have. How many are really adding to the conversation and not just some “me too” bolt-on? How many newspaper bloggers are actually blogging as opposed to just reshaping opinion pieces?

    As for hosting and fostering the debate, you’re bang on the money. How many times will you read a piece about some ongoing fuming which has been taken from “an online discussion forum”? There may be legal issues here – as we all know, Irish media law is a rather timid beast – but that shouldn’t stop some robust conversations from going on on newspaper’s own sites. I mean, look at On The Record as an example – conversations here do get rather rowdy and robust from time to time (OK weekly). What’s to stop us having similar conversations about topics other than (insert fave OTR rabble-rouser here)? Nothing but time, money, resources and the will to do so.

    As for paying for pieces before you read it, that’s just the same problem which the record industry faced. Man, I can’t believe the parallels between the two! How do you get someone to pay over €12.99 for a CD they haven’t heard before? If you stream the album, people realise it’s 2 tunes, one cover and 7 fillers and don’t buy it. Is the daily news digest which most papers offer the media equivalent of this streaming? Does that prompt you to click and read more? I know my own daily reading habits when it comes to the paper do not change from day to day – Letters to the Editor, GAA, soccer, opinion columns and that’s largely it until I get a physical copy and have some time to spare. Yes, of course I’ve missed out on stories and pieces because of this but that has become my routine.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    24.
    August 11, 2009
    9:56 pm

    I completely agree that these are legacy issues. One would hope that they will ease as the medium – and the journalists that work in it – mature. I reckon there’s still about 15 years left in print news in Ireland, but it’ll be a gradual decline in print profits, hopefully papers like the Irish Times can move fully web-first in that period and thus increase web profits. Innovation is needed, thus innovative leaders… it’ll be tough, undoubtedly.

    You say…

    “As for newspapers becoming part of the conversation, this is changing – you’re talking to me and I’m talking right back at you – but the rate of change is too slow.”

    Quite correct. However, this a blog on a news site, not a regular article. You’re an early adapter of the “it’s a conversation” mindset that journalists must adopt. This blog, while structurally similar to the articles in the Have Your Say section (which itself is a big step forward) is different because of the person behind it. Of the regular Irish Times columnists the only person who actually replies to (reads?) the comments in the Have Your Say section is Sarah Carey. The difference between here and there is you, you’re on a peer level, most of the columnists incite debate but don’t partake.

    I agree, jumping into various online fads with all guns blazing is not the right way to go about it. Doing it half-assed will get papers laughed at, but doing it right has the potential to completely change the way a paper is percieved by a large societal demograpic. A great, intuitive, well-designed Facebook app for a newspaper would bring the paper to the audience and the audience back to website, it’s win-win. That’s the things newspapers need to be considering, most are more worried about how many of those Facebook users will stop buying the print copy if they have the app. They don’t realise they’re not buying print anyway. This comes back to legacy issues, as you’ve implied, it’s hard to change a culture.

    That raises the question; will the newspapers of today have to die off before those of tomorrow can grow?…

    Re: paying before you read…

    True, the parallels are amazing. The difference is the iTunes model seems to have potential for music. Not so for news, no one reads a news article twice. Also, news by its nature is numerous, raw and constant, it can possibly maintain a “fan base” in the same way an album does for a band. For these reasons, and others, I honestly believe news online – as we now know it – cannot be charged for. But maybe Murdoch is doing us a favour, he could be helping cut the deadwood. It might help a few die off and thus allow something new to grow.

    FYI As an Irish journalist, looking at the media landscape in New Zealand is interesting. They have a paper of record (NZ Herald?) and an equal online competitor, stuff.co.nz which I believe is comparable regards reporting quality, but has a younger, more diverse demographic. Their population level is similar but I believe they have more broadband connected houses… so, maybe, Ireland, in a few years?

    Fingers crossed.

    Comment by Mark Coughlan
    25.
    August 12, 2009
    7:26 am

    Excellent piece, Jim, and a very interesting discussion.

    I’m surprised Micheál’s comments haven’t been given much attention.

    His points a very simple but I find they are regularly overlooked or ignored by many writing on this topic in the “established” press – “News is not a proprietory product. If one site is charging and another is free, the vast majority of people will go for the free one, even if they’d marginally prefer to get it from the established source.”

    Charging for online content will break a lot of backs in print media because free content of equal or similar quality will always be available online, as Micheál demonstrated. Unlike digital music, it cannot be controlled via legal means (and that would be to overstate the record industry’s ability to successfully tame the download revolution).

    But I think the newspaper outlets that are now considering charging readers for online content are making two (I believe dangerous) assumptions about their audience: one, that they have loyal and large enough readerships to prop up their falling revenues, and, two, that the print-reading reader is identical to the online-reading reader.

    On the first point: established newspapers must be aware that the days of a reader maintaining a lifelong “loyalty” (political or class-related or whatever) to a particular paper is passing. I think the emerging generation of readers – those that do so predominantly online – expect and hunt out multiple sources and perspectives, regardless of their political etc views. I, for instance, would probably describe myself as a liberal reader. In the past, this meant reading the Irish Times and, when I could afford it, the Guardian. Now, however, I can read both of those papers, as well as their more conservative counterparts, (as well as many other sources, from all over the globe), online. It broadens my perspective, it’s free, and I never did believe that my political inclinations should inhibit my reading opportunities.

    Point two is very much informed by the above: the online reader can and will seek out a multitude of sources rather than rely on their lifelong daily to keep them up to speed (which, in the world of 24 hour news, it can’t). Will those who formerly read print now switch online and pay for it? Perhaps, but they’ll soon cop on. Will those who never inherited the habit of buying a printed paper chose to pay for it online? I needn’t answer that one.

    There are hopes with developments such as the Kindle. I think, as bren suggested, that readers would be willing to pay for subscriptions for a few sources (some kind of bundle) if they had a personal reading device such as this. I think this is where Murdoch and his cronies should be looking for solutions – teaming big papers together and offering competitive subscriptions for readers using such devices. There may not be huge money in it but it’ll keep the sharks at bay.

    All in all, though, I think big media will be facing big job losses in the future. When content and commentary can be spread infinitely across the web at a fraction of the cost, I fear the days of the hard nosed hack are nearing their end.

    Comment by MCM
    26.
    August 12, 2009
    10:04 am

    @ Mark

    The thing about web profits is that they will be nowhere near the same level as print profits – yes, even if and when everything migrates online – hence cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts

    You’re right about the conversation. Sorry, I’ve become so blog-entrenched that I forget some of my peers are far from being as forthcoming with the back and forth. It’s still the sermon on the mount for many – which many readers chose to ignore (or poke fun at, in the case of some commentators)

    That raises the question; will the newspapers of today have to die off before those of tomorrow can grow?…

    That’s a chicken and egg question but again, let’s look at the parallels in the music business. Every new movement had more or less the same permanent establishment in terms of management, lawyers, accountants etc and you may see something similar with newspapers. The format, energy and direction will change – but it may be the same hands at the financial wheel, albeit allowing those who truly understand the medium to plot the direction.

    no one reads a news article twice

    Well, unless they’re planning to sue…….

    Thanks for the headsup on New Zealand – will check those ones out.

    @ MCM

    “News is not a proprietory product. If one site is charging and another is free, the vast majority of people will go for the free one, even if they’d marginally prefer to get it from the established source.”

    Which, as I point out in the post above, is one of the biggest issues the Digger faces in his new plan. Fine, lock away Times Online and News of the World etc – but doesn’t that leave the BBC and RTE and other free sites to take away your readers?

    But I think the newspaper outlets that are now considering charging readers for online content are making two (I believe dangerous) assumptions about their audience: one, that they have loyal and large enough readerships to prop up their falling revenues, and, two, that the print-reading reader is identical to the online-reading reader.

    Nail on head – these are issues which have long plagued the jump from print to online and resulted in early hybrids which were just the paper online. It took years – and many redesigns – for paper chiefs to realise these were 2 separate mediums with all the issues and problems that goes with that.

    There are hopes with developments such as the Kindle. I think, as bren suggested, that readers would be willing to pay for subscriptions for a few sources (some kind of bundle) if they had a personal reading device such as this. I think this is where Murdoch and his cronies should be looking for solutions – teaming big papers together and offering competitive subscriptions for readers using such devices. There may not be huge money in it but it’ll keep the sharks at bay.

    eMusic for papers?

    All in all, though, I think big media will be facing big job losses in the future…..I fear the days of the hard nosed hack are nearing their end.

    Thing is, MCM, there’s nothing new about that. Full-time journalists who are office-based or have a full-time job are few and far between. I might write loads for the paper but I, like most of my peers, am not based in the office and am not staff (I have a contract with the paper). This has been the way things have been going in this sector for years. Yes, there will be more job losses but eventually, the time will come when there are no more jobs to cut. Then, we’ll see what kind of a media we have

    And yes, don’t worry, I’m fully aware of the fact that I work for an industry in the doldrums writing mostly about another industry in the doldrums!

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    27.
    August 12, 2009
    11:34 am

    Great article and really great comments, really fascinating discussion. Good work guys!
    Its the same old story across the board though isnt it, “More with Less” and all that. On that note, anyone else thinks its funny how so many of the phrases from the last season of the Wire are now in common usage, except without the irony,,, “Less with more”, “Dickensian” etc,,,,,

    Comment by Enda
    28.
    August 12, 2009
    2:11 pm

    My name is Elaine and I’m a columnist.

    Readers, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
    The courage to change the things I can,
    And the wisdom to know the difference.

    Amen and all that.

    Comment by Elaine Byrne
    29.
    August 12, 2009
    2:14 pm

    Enda – what the media world needs is an Avon Barksdale/Stringer Bell takeover.

    Elaine – welcome (again) to the OTR bear-pit.

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