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  • The 25 best albums of 2009 so far

    July 1, 2009 @ 12:21 pm | by Jim Carroll

    As we reach the halfway mark in what has already been a champion year for new music, I’m reminded of a fine piece a few weeks ago in the Guardian. Johnny Dee had a look back at 1989 and noted what a momentous year it was for music. You had fantastic releases or breakthroughs from the Stone Roses (I can still remember the first time I heard that album), De La Soul (I bought that on vinyl in Belfast and nearly wore the grooves out the following week), Pixes (”Dolittle”), Beastie Boys (”Paul’s Boutique”), Soul II Soul (”Club Classics, Vol 1″), Happy Mondays (myself and two others put them on in McGonagles in Dublin with The Shamen on St Patrick’s Day - the heavy metal disco afterwards drew a bigger crowd) and plenty of others. Yet, as Dee notes, for all that great music in the ether, the public went out and bought Jive Bunny records as if their lives depended on it.

    Much has changed in the 20 years since. The labels are no longer the powerhouses they once were and you can be sure a Jive Bunny 2009 would not be selling records in the same quantities as before. There’s still a disconnect between the mainstream and the underground, but it’s no longer the massive leap it once was as several bands have found out in recent times. Moreover, as several of this year’s success stories know only too well, you don’t need to go the whole hog to make a living from your music. You can do things on your own terms.

    Yet the fact remains that, leaving aside the overall slippage in sales, much of this year’s big sellers will still come from the same quarters as always. Major label-guided TV pop continues to show up the truism of the if-you-throw-enough-at-the-wall-something-will-stick approach. A couple of big acts will clock up the digits. That slew of electropop lasses everyone was tipping at the dawn of the day will produce one winner (Lady Gaga) and one surprise contender (La Roux) with a host of also-rans (Little Boots’s album certainly does not do her any favours). It’s like 1989 – and 1999 – all over again.

    But in terms of volume, everything has changed. There has never been so much music, so many new releases, so many new bands to check out. You could spend your entire time just listening to freshly hatched music without having a minute to go back to the vintage stuff. Some view this as a problem (in fact, many do and see churning as a reason why so many new bands burn out so fast), yet it’s a problem which has a very simple solution: just make better music.

    And yes, like every year of late, it has been a good year so far for new releases. Here are 25 albums in no order whatsoever which are rocking my world as we head into the second half of 2009. There are probably some more and there are certainly some smashing albums to come in July and August from The XX, La Roux and Florence & The Machine but we’ll stick with these for now.

    Animal Collective “Merriweather Post Pavilion” (Domino)
    The Juan Maclean “The Future Will Come” (DFA)
    Grizzly Bear “Veckatimest” (Warp)
    DM Stith “Heavy Ghost” (Asthmatic Kitty)
    Hudson Mohawke “Polyfolk Dance” (Warp)
    Micachu & The Shapes “Jewellery” (Rough Trade)
    Fever Ray “Fever Ray” (Rabid)
    Adrian Crowley “Season of the Sparks” (Tin Angel)
    Here We Go Magic “Here We Go Magic” (Western Vinyl)
    The Pains of Being Pure At Heart “The Pains of Being Pure At Heart” (Fortuna Pop)
    White Denim “Fits” (Full Time Hobby)
    Toddla T “Skanky Skanky” (1965)
    Dirty Projectors “Bitte Orca” (Domino)
    Dorian Concept “When Planets Collide” (Kindred Spirits)
    Bibio “Ambivalence Avenue” (Warp)
    Sa-Ra Creative Partners “Nuclear Evolution: The Age Of Love” (Ubiquity)
    Raphael Saadiq “The Way I See It” (Columbia)
    Cymbals Eat Guitars “Why There Are Mountains” (CEG)
    Yonlu “A Society In Which No Tear Is Shed Is Inconceivably Mediocre” (Luaka Bop)
    Mulatu Astatke & The Heliocentrics “Inspiration Information” (Strut)
    Hypnotic Brass Ensemble “Hypnotic Brass Ensemble” (Honest Jons)
    Holy Roman Army “How The Light Gets In” (Collapsed Adult)
    Speech Debelle “Speech Therapy” (Big Dada)
    The Horrors “Primary Colours’ (XL)
    Antony & The Johnsons “The Crying Light” (Rough Trade)

  • 64 Comments »

    1.
    July 1, 2009
    12:27 pm

    Cue avalanche of “you left out” posts….

    Here’s mine: You left out Camera Obscura. Tut tut, etc.

    Comment by Noise Annoys
    2.
    July 1, 2009
    12:34 pm

    Anyway, the most pertinent point in this article is the one about the plethora of new music. I present a radio show and therefore get a good bit of new music every week (not as much as you do, Jim!) but I really struggle to keep up. I don’t think the solution is for bands to simply make better music, as you still have to listen to it to discover whether it’s any good or not.

    We just have to sift through stuff more quickly and probably don’t give a lot of music enough chance. (Still, after 5 or 6 full spins of the Grizzly Bear album I’m still not impressed!) I’ve stopped trying to chase my tail in this regard, and like going back to the stuff that gives me listening pleasure rather than trying to keep up with the latest Pitchfork rave.

    Comment by Noise Annoys
    3.
    July 1, 2009
    12:38 pm

    Good list Jim, I’d add two Irish additions to it (David Kitt and SEBP) and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs to the list of albums that have made my 09 so far.

    Comment by Joe
    4.
    July 1, 2009
    12:42 pm

    Have you heard the Patrick Kelleher album?
    Like the Fever Ray LP, it gets better with every spin.

    Comment by cletus_buckley
    5.
    July 1, 2009
    12:56 pm

    Noise - not a fan of the Camera Obscura album

    I suppose my solution is a flippant one but I really dont see the amount of new music as a problem. The amount of new music has increased because of changes in how music is made and distributed - do we want to go back to the days when there were labels controlling that distribution model?

    Joe - FUCKIT! I forgot the YYYs. Darn toot it. I drew my list mostly from what I’ve reviewed or who I’ve interviewed for the paper, hence why I passed over them. Spoon of the day award to me.

    cletus - Didnt like the Patrick Kelleher album at all

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    6.
    July 1, 2009
    12:56 pm

    Unrelated to your top 25 so far this year - agree with your point about there maybe being too much new music. As a point of curiosity wondering about the total sales of 1989 dross (Jive Bunny etc.) conmpared to total sales of 1989 classics (Stone Roses, Pixies, De La Soul etc.) Presumably the first lot sold massively for one year only and then never again but the other stuff kept up sales consistently enough for a number of years as new music fans discovered that they are great and timeless classics.

    Comment by NB
    7.
    July 1, 2009
    12:59 pm

    The new P.O.S album Never Better is very very good. Also has the finest cd case I have ever seen -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6IrjDvVkKI

    Comment by Trevor
    8.
    July 1, 2009
    1:13 pm

    bound to be tonnes of albums people come up with that could be there (in their own lists)… but in a year that i haven’t been listening to that much new music, i’ll give you five of mine:

    bill callahan - sometimes i wish we were an eagle
    martin finke - make daylight
    trembling bells - carbeth
    camera obscura - my maudlin career
    king creosote - flick the vs

    Comment by Ally
    9.
    July 1, 2009
    1:28 pm

    I like your list Jim. I would add:

    Bat for Lashes: Two Suns
    Junior Boys: Begone Dull Care
    St. Vincent: Actor

    Comment by Steve K
    10.
    July 1, 2009
    1:35 pm

    Nice to see the Crying Light was remembered from Jan….

    My additions would be:-
    Mos Def - The Ecstatic
    The phenomenal handclap band

    Comment by Mar
    11.
    July 1, 2009
    1:39 pm

    Happy Mondays (myself and two others put them on in McGonagles in Dublin with The Shamen on St Patrick’s Day

    I was there. Bez wasn’t. Gas night. IIRC The Gorehounds were also on the bill but I can’t think of the fourth act - one of them was a no show - can you refresh me Jim?

    Also, 1989, was the year Reading Festival took the first steps towards what became the modern summer music festival with a day of “alternative” music.

    [IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/evilivor/utf.jpg[/IMG]

    Comment by Ivor
    12.
    July 1, 2009
    1:47 pm

    Quite like the Patrick Kelleher album. Heard it blaring in Road the other day. Also not yet impressed with 70% of Veckatimist. Subplots’ album Nightcycles definitely in my top of the year so far.

    Comment by rojo
    13.
    July 1, 2009
    1:47 pm

    Glad to see Season of the Sparks in there. Reminds me alot of Astral Weeks in that it’s effin deadly.

    Comment by Jack
    14.
    July 1, 2009
    1:50 pm

    I don’t get the hype about that Horrors album, while it’s not as annoying as the first I find it still pretty annoying!

    I second the SEBP call, fantastic album. Other favourites so far this year for me is albums by The Field, Deerhunter, Tallest Man on Earth and Dan Deacon.

    Comment by JC
    15.
    July 1, 2009
    1:53 pm

    “can be sure a Jive Bunny 2009 would not be selling records in the same quantities as before.”

    Are the American Idol/Pop Idol singles/albums not todays equivalent of the Jive Bunny? I am sure they have sold far more in total and dont forgot that annoying frog single

    Comment by G-Man
    16.
    July 1, 2009
    2:02 pm

    I’d throw the following in there too:

    Sinner DC - Crystallised
    Viva Voce - Rose City
    Au Revoir Simone - Still Night, Still Light
    Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
    Sunset Rubdown - Dragonslayer
    Telepathe - Dance Mother

    Comment by ShowYourBones
    17.
    July 1, 2009
    2:03 pm

    @Ivor - I was there too. We most likely rubbed shoulders. Will Sinnott was still playing with the Shamen at the time and it was a far cry from what was to come from them. I thought they were shit that night.

    RE Jims list - I’m a bit shit at dates and all that stuff but if it happens that they were released in 2009 (and I think they both were) I’d add El Michels Affair and Jimi Tenor & Kabu Kabu to the list

    Comment by Matt Vinyl/The Golden Maverick
    18.
    July 1, 2009
    2:03 pm

    What are you doing making lists Jim? When all those U2 fans get back from Barcelona, you’re gonna get it!

    Comment by James D
    19.
    July 1, 2009
    2:05 pm

    I’m really loving the new Holy Roman Army album and also Adrian Crowley’s album. Any chance we’ll be seeing them at this years Electric Picnic?
    P.S. Can’t believe you forgot the YYY’s! Tisk tisk!

    Comment by P Boyle
    20.
    July 1, 2009
    2:11 pm

    doom
    jay dee
    telepathe
    lee fields
    is ‘polyfolk dance’ an album? just a question.

    Comment by dan
    21.
    July 1, 2009
    2:15 pm

    Mar @ 10 - the Mos Def album landed this morning so am looking fwd to hearing it

    Ivor @ 11 - yeah, the Gorehounds were first on, the the Shamen and then the Bez-less Mondays. Bez had been arrested in Manchester airport on some charge or other and they got some lad from the crew who looked a bit like him to do some freaky dancing instead. Great days!

    Jack @ 13 - AC gets better with every release. Really hope he gets his dues for this one

    JC @ 14 - I think the Deerhunter album was 2008?

    G-Man @ 15 - I think I prefer the Bunny

    ShowYourBones @ 16 - I’m planning to go back to that Phoenix album based on the live show

    Matt @ 17 - ah, the memories - though as my co-promoter said to me the last time i saw her, more people now claim to have been there than were there on the night. It’s live the baggy/e-dancing GPO 1916. That said, even though I didn’t know her at the time, one of the my best mates in the world was there with a gang of her friends from Galway. And yeah, I think El Michels was this year - rockin’ album

    James D @ 18 - it’s a day for lists! U2 were in Barcelona? Wow, never heard about that

    P Boyle @ 19 - either can I. See other post for EP update

    Dan @ 20 - yes it is

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    22.
    July 1, 2009
    2:27 pm

    Agreed the combination of more new bands and more media trumpeting them means i’m listening to more new music than ever before but also worry that i’m spreading myself too thin and missing out on some “grower” gems. Just don’t seem to play albums to death like I used to.

    Would honourably mention:

    Magic Magic
    Fanfarlo
    Thunderheist
    Andrew Bird
    Terry Lynn
    St Vincent
    Bat for Lashes
    Cass McCombs
    Dark Was the Night
    Trembling Bells

    Comment by Gus Fitz
    23.
    July 1, 2009
    2:37 pm

    Big yes to the Holy Roman Empire. A couple of albums have been mentioned I’ve really liked. So if i were to removed bands from your list Jim:
    Strike the Horrors
    Strike The Pains of Being Pure of Heart.

    I’ve been enjoying Passion Pit, Lissy Trullie and the Phoenix albums and Solid Gold’s Bodies of Water (thought I think that was 2008).

    Also RSAG.

    Comment by Major Alfonso
    24.
    July 1, 2009
    2:44 pm

    oh ok, sorted so. sure there I was walking around in public thinking it was an e.p., for shame. but then what is the difference anyway. I suppose.

    Comment by dan
    25.
    July 1, 2009
    3:09 pm

    urgh…this list makes me depressed!

    having gone travelling for 6months last year I’m slowly catching up on music I’ve missed out on while away, your list makes me realise how far behind I am…however I have picked up the Grizzly Bears album at last having being listening to it on myspace for the past few weeks

    heres my list of fav’s this year

    friendly fires
    ladyhawke
    Doves
    Yeah Yeah Yeahs
    White Lies
    Metric

    and I beyond excited to get my grubby little hands on Florence and the machines album…i have a few friends who have copies already (promos for press etc) they won’t give me a copy, so they’re officially of my christmas card list this year

    Comment by caroline
    26.
    July 1, 2009
    3:21 pm

    i second matt on his entries and would also like to add..

    harmonic 313
    quantic and his combo barbaro (album of the year already?)
    doom
    ppp
    exile
    suite for ma dukes

    maybe it was re-issued this year but i bought that raphael saadiq album last sept/oct on vinyl in ireland…

    Comment by peter
    27.
    July 1, 2009
    3:23 pm

    peter - that Raphael Saadiq album only got a proper release over here this year.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    28.
    July 1, 2009
    4:04 pm

    Furries new one, Kingdom Of Rust & only given it a few listens but that Wilco album is shaping up to be the best since YHF

    Comment by andy
    29.
    July 1, 2009
    4:22 pm

    one addition/omission - and so i watch you from afar.

    their record is easily the best new thing i’ve heard this year. some good diversity in your choices as always Mr Carroll, i’ll be checking out what i don’t know from them.. it does kind of depress me how quickly the first half of this year has gone though.. i must be getting old.. :(

    Comment by Liam
    30.
    July 1, 2009
    4:29 pm

    balls, i forgot completely about MF Doom, Phoenix and that Suite for Ma Dukes. Mind you I’m not too sure that Suite for Ma Dukes qualifies as an album. Come to think of it, what makes an album an album and an ep an ep?

    Comment by Matt Vinyl/The Golden Maverick
    31.
    July 1, 2009
    5:14 pm

    Mar@10 and Jim@21 - Yep, Mos Def’s new one is absolutely brilliant, I can’t get enough of it.

    Comment by Neill
    32.
    July 1, 2009
    5:23 pm

    @ matt - i always think that an album should have at least 8 tracks on it and they should have been recorded as a single entity or at least recorded with it in mind to release the tracks as an album - hence i don’t consider compilations to be albums as such.

    an EP then, is a random collection of a few existing tracks (like a B-sides ep) or a first release where a band only record 4 or 5 tracks.. hardly the most scientific of criteria, but it works for me!

    Comment by Liam
    33.
    July 1, 2009
    5:44 pm

    most of my pics so far are on your list but i would add

    Doves-Kingdom Of Rust
    The Field-Yesterday and Today
    Lindstrøm & Prins Thomas-II
    Martyn-Great Lengths
    Mexican Institute Of Sound-Soy Sauce
    N.A.S.A.-The Spirit Of Apollo
    The Phenomenal Handclap Band
    Yeah Yeah Yeahs-It’s Blitz!

    Comment by petee
    34.
    July 1, 2009
    6:51 pm

    Should have done this with my laptop in front of me, but here is a quick and dirty shot at 25 albums…

    1. Adrian Crowley – Season of the Sparks
    2. Animal Collective – Merriweather Post Pavilion
    3. The Antlers – Hospice
    4. Antony & The Johnsons – The Crying Light
    5. Asobi Seksu – Hush
    6. Bell Orchestre – As Seen Through Windows
    7. Blackout Beach – Skin of Evil
    8. Clues – Clues
    9. Cymbals Eat Guitars – Why There Are Mountains
    10. Dirty Projectors – Bitte Orca
    11. DM Stith – Heavy Ghost
    12. Great Lake Swimmers – Lost Channels
    13. Grizzly Bear – Veckatimest
    14. The Hylozoists – L’ile de sept villes
    15. James Blackshaw – The Glass Bead Game
    16. Japandroids – Post-Nothing
    17. Julie Feeney – Pages
    18. Lucie Idlout – Swagger
    19. Maybe Smith – Another Murder in the Morning
    20. St Vincent – Actor
    21. Sunset Rubdown – Dragonslayer
    22. Tim Hecker – An Imaginary Country
    23. The Weather Station – The Line
    24. Woods – Songs of Shame
    25. Yeah Yeah Yeahs – It’s Blitz

    ************************

    Might also be fun to have a reprise of this thread six months on -
    http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/ontherecord/2009/01/08/tune-of-the-week-my-girls/

    Has the non-stop listening ceased?

    Have people been able to go back and still enjoy far more mundane music?

    Is the manner in which the album tilted the Earth on its axis responsible for all of this fine summer weather?

    Should its release date replace March 17 as a public holiday?

    But, most of all, in the cold light of day, would you really trade your 5-season box set of “The Wire” for it?

    Comment by JD
    35.
    July 1, 2009
    7:09 pm

    Bill Callahan’s Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle is a great return to form after the disappointing Woke on a Whaleheart.

    We Were Promised Jetpacks show a lot of promise with their debut album These Four Walls too.

    Comment by Ciano
    36.
    July 1, 2009
    7:27 pm

    i is a’-lovin’ the new hawk and a hacksaw lp

    Comment by jim comic
    37.
    July 1, 2009
    7:55 pm

    The Decemberists - The Hazards of Love - anyone? Really grew on me.

    Comment by crosseyedsniper
    38.
    July 1, 2009
    8:05 pm

    I love it. Another reminder to check out Sa-Ra Creative Partners and Dorian Concept.

    I did my own obvious top ten today and then a less obvious 15 overlooked albums so far:

    http://www.nialler9.com/2009/07/01/2009s-best-overlooked-albums-so-far/

    Comment by Niall
    39.
    July 1, 2009
    8:19 pm

    @ Matt,

    According to the UK charts, an album is a set of recordings that are “…over 25 minutes OR more than four songs where the format does not qualify as a “Maxi” single or remix single as defined by singles eligibility rules…”

    Comment by Leigh O'Gorman
    40.
    July 1, 2009
    8:32 pm

    + The Acorn
    Moderat
    Bat For Lashes

    Already mentioned that I agree with:
    Grizzly Bear and the truly astonishingly magnificent Fever Ray.

    Comment by Quint
    41.
    July 2, 2009
    3:37 am

    The Temper Trap - Conditions is technically a release from the first half of the year (even if only in Australia so far - lucky us) and should be on your list. It will be on most year-end lists !!!!

    Comment by Paul R
    42.
    July 2, 2009
    9:04 am

    Wow, I didn’t expect this kind of response!

    The huge spread of albums is quite telling in several regards. One, it really has been a good year so far. Two, OTR readers browse wide and deep when it comes to music. Three, there is no such thing as “too much new music”. Four, not one person has mentioned that u2 album.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    43.
    July 2, 2009
    9:47 am

    the new oneida lp is pretty good too

    Comment by jim comic
    44.
    July 2, 2009
    11:54 am

    balls, I forgot the Onra album and Kittsers Nightsaver too.

    Thanks to Liam and Leigh for their insights into the ep vs album dilemma.

    Comment by Matt Vinyl/The Golden Maverick
    45.
    July 2, 2009
    1:44 pm

    Choice rules are 6 songs or more, more than 30 minutes in lenght for albums right?

    Comment by Major Alfonso
    46.
    July 2, 2009
    1:45 pm

    Can’t stop playing the Japandroids ‘Post-Nothing’. That’ll make my end of year top 10 for sure…

    Comment by Richie.
    47.
    July 2, 2009
    1:48 pm

    I’m liking loads of the music listed here…I’d say Animal Collective is still the record that will take some beating.
    A couple of odder/noisier things I like too are

    SunnO))): Monoliths and Dimensions
    Tim Hecker: An imaginary country
    Mountains: Choral
    Pan-American: White Bird Release.

    From an Irish perspective
    So Cow, Patrick Kelleher, Subplots and ASIWYFA are all brilliant.

    Comment by Darragh
    48.
    July 2, 2009
    5:45 pm

    Jim @5
    Is he too Arthur Russell?
    The latter half of “you look cold” from “The Devils Of Loudun” till the end is ridiculously good I think anyways.
    oh did realise Bibio released anything new, Hand Cranked is a great listen.

    Comment by cletus_buckley
    49.
    July 2, 2009
    5:50 pm

    cletus - there’s no way I’d compare him to Arthur Russell! No way on earth, dude - he doesn’t have the same melodic command and he confuses experimentation with eccentricity.

    New Bibio album is peachy

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    50.
    July 2, 2009
    8:08 pm

    I remember a certain Jim Carroll giving out to me for not ranking a list I made before. I just put it in alphabetical order, instead of ranking them. A bit hypocritical maybe?

    I’d definitely have Justin Townes Earle and Jason Isbell on mine. Fantastic records.

    Great to see the Holy Roman Army on there.

    Comment by Ronan
    51.
    July 2, 2009
    8:55 pm

    Ronan - ;-)

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    52.
    July 2, 2009
    11:07 pm

    ALong with a lot of whats already mentioned i’d have the Renaissance by Q-tip on my list

    Comment by eannac
    53.
    July 3, 2009
    4:20 pm

    Any other shouts for the prog rock wonder that is the new Mastodon LP ‘Crack The Skye’? Sigh. Thought not.
    Steve @9: I’m with you on the St Vincent record. Some lovely stuff.

    Comment by Joss
    54.
    July 3, 2009
    10:13 pm

    Nice list at our site with Pains, Gliss, Crocodiles and more: http://thedumbingofamerica.net

    Comment by toddc2001
    55.
    July 4, 2009
    5:11 am

    A couple of my favourites for 2009 so far:

    Franz Nicolay - Major General
    M Ward - Hold Time
    Matt & Kim - Grand

    Great list. Thanks!

    Comment by Ben Payne
    56.
    July 5, 2009
    12:00 am

    This is a great list, however I really to feel that the new Super Extra Bonus Party album, Night Horses, deserves to be on this list, it’s absolutely fantastic. Far better than some of the albums that are in fact mentioned and also far better than their own debut lp which I thought was also great.

    Celina at hotpress said it before and I’m going to say it again, it’s about time all of the narrow minded begrudgers, who unfortunately infest the Irish music scene in particular gave sebp the respect they have without a doubt earned.

    My money is going on them or The Mighty Stef for The Choice 09.

    That said, I’m delighted to see animal collective, fever ray and dirty projectors included!

    Comment by scoffey148
    57.
    July 7, 2009
    4:04 am

    I’d add Beruit, The Field, Moderat, Beyond The Wizard’s Sleeve and The Whitest Boy Alive.

    That said, I still think that the Dark Was The Night compilation CD is the best album released this year.

    Comment by Eoin
    58.
    July 8, 2009
    3:38 pm

    here we go another f**king list and its only july. grizzly bear + bibio albums totally over rated.

    from the irish side I’m liking the david kitt album, though I hated his stuff a few years back. fair play if he can reinvent himself. am liking the holy roman army also but a bit lame in places. that patrick kelleher album is awesome, record of the year for me so far, get the cloth out of your years jim carroll you used to have your ear to the ground !

    Comment by jed
    59.
    July 8, 2009
    3:39 pm

    oh yeah, like the legion of two album too on planet mu, great stuff.

    Comment by jed
    60.
    July 8, 2009
    4:35 pm

    from the irish side I’m liking the david kitt album, though I hated his stuff a few years back. fair play if he can reinvent himself. am liking the holy roman army also but a bit lame in places. that patrick kelleher album is awesome, record of the year for me so far, get the cloth out of your years jim carroll you used to have your ear to the ground !

    Jed - “A few years back”??? You were calling for poor David Kitt’s head on a plate THREE MONTHS AGO!!! Make up your mind!

    Comment no 98 here - http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/ontherecord/2009/04/03/the-tickets-50-best-irish-music-acts-right-now/ - “david kitt, totally overrated and moaning about it.”

    And people call music journalists fickle?

    Re Patrick Kellegher - once again for those who came in late and the online fanboy rent-a-crowd, see comment no 5 above. I just don’t like it. Is that a crime? Did that come in at the same time as the new blasphemy law?

    And I stopped having my ear to the ground when I got hit by the 123 bus as it came around a corner.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    61.
    July 8, 2009
    5:00 pm

    I sat down and had a good listen to the new kitt album, it grew on me ! nothing wrong with changing your mind.

    no online rent a crowd, this is a forum.
    really good Irish albums don’t come along so often so mentioned the p kelleher album as no one else seems to be. instead of poncing around sonar and sxsw maybe check the dublin toilet gig circuit occasionally !

    and no I’m not trying to wind you up…..don’t turn into dave fanning.

    Comment by jed
    62.
    July 8, 2009
    5:05 pm

    jed - what i was doing was simpky turning the tables and pointing out that it’s not just music journalists who are fickle. Back in April, you were calling hell and damnation on David Kitt - by July, you’re on his side. Same thing could happen with me and the next Patrick Kellegher record. Open minds and all of that.

    As for “the dublin toilet gig circuit”, I spend more time on that particular scene than is healthy for a man of my advanced years. It’s just the case that there are much more interesting - and better - bands to write about when one is “poncing” around sonar and sxsw. More Irish bands and fans and music industry workers should do some “poncing” to realise how far behind the curve they are.

    Mmmm, wonder where that chip on shoulder charge is coming from? Then again, that’s the beauty of anonymous online sniping - one never has to declare your real identity.

    Footnote: funny how no-one is ever accused of “poncing” around the dublin toilet circuit.

    Now let’s all go back to listening to David Kitt - and Dave Fanning

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    63.
    July 8, 2009
    5:34 pm

    yes Irish ‘music industry’ (is there one?) bods should open their ears, everythings online now, so you don’t have to relocate to London or berlin or wherever to hear the latest music trends. so there really is no excuse I agree.

    But you can also get caught up in a ‘faraway hills are green’ scenairo where its from the uk or its released on such and such a label it must be good, whereas a lot of it is hype, look at all this girly synth pop stuff. its decided at the start of ever year, these are the artists to watch etc..some people who are too close to the ‘industry’ buy into all this, doesnt mean its any good (anyone can subscribe to music week). and the sad sad thing is that for example the ’synth pop’ as a revival will be written off before its started just like post punk was 2 years ago. .

    was out at sonar a few years back, very disapointing the whole thing. everyone with little record label logos on their t-shirts still raving away like it was 1989. very safe. I imagine sxsw to be a similair indie version of the same.

    anyway, nuff said.

    Comment by jed
    64.
    July 8, 2009
    5:40 pm

    jed - yes, everything is online but as u know full well, nothing beats standing in a room watching a fantastic band playing, one who’ve put in the hours and who can play their socks off. SXSW (less so Sonar which is more electronic) is full to the brim with great acts but I know from talking to some Irish acts who go there that they get the fear from the realisation of how much work they have to do to get to that level. Best stay at home than work really hard to compete on that level.

    Yes, you’re right, many people get caught up in that faraway hills are green scenario but just as many people get caught up in the homegrown is best line too. Not everything out foreign is brilliant - and not everything with a made-in-Ireland stamp is brilliant either. It’s a balance between the two, between the David Kitt(s) and the Tallest Man On Earth(s).

    Subscribe to Music Week? LOL. Haven’t read MW since I stopped working for a major label in 1998.

    Comment by Jim Carroll

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