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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: January 16, 2009 @ 10:26 am

    State goes online only – and Dublin’s Road Records shuts up shop

    Jim Carroll

    After just nine issues, State magazine has ceased publication of its print edition and will continue to exist as an online entity only.

    It was also announced this week that Dublin independent music store Road Records will cease trading after 11 years.

    State was launched last March and was available initially as a paid-for title before becoming a free publication after six issues in October. But its plans to rely solely on advertising revenue were scuppered by the economic downturn.

    Co-editor John Walshe admits their timing was not great. “No one could have predicted the downturn a year ago. Advertising budgets across the board have been slashed and everyone in the media industry is finding that.

    “We just weren’t getting enough advertising to cover the cost of printing of the magazine or paying our journalists. Unfortunately, the free route did not work for us, but it did get the magazine into more hands.”

    One reason why State never gained traction with readers may be because it didn’t carve out a distinctive enough niche for itself. There was already saturation coverage elsewhere of many of the acts featured on its covers, including REM, Interpol, Muse and Kings of Leon, and State’s interviews provided few new insights. In addition, mixed signals were sent by the decision to put Abba on the cover.

    Walshe naturally disagrees with this. “We printed nine issues and we’re really proud and happy with the content and what we covered. Yes, of course, there are things we would have changed, but there always is. We just never thought it would be a case of just nine issues.”

    State will continue online and Walshe promises a much busier site.

    “There will be a lot more daily content and we will still put up a version of the magazine every month. However, no one is going to be working full-time on it because we will all be working elsewhere, but we will be chipping in when we can.”

    Meanwhile, Dave Kennedy and Julie Collins from Road Records posted this explanation as to why the long-running Dublin store will be closing its doors in the coming weeks (statement in full below)

    First of all, thank you all for your kind words about our store and us personally, we really do appreciate it as Road has always been about a personal approach from day one.

    I am very sad to say that we will in fact be closing down the store in the next 2 – 3 weeks as things have just become too difficult for us to proceed, we basically have no money left and as it is just a small shop run by Julie and myself we can longer afford to fund it. Belive me if we were at least breaking even each week then we would continue on in hope but as we are continually losing money, and have been for at least six months, we cannot carry on as any losses incurred will have to be personally paid for by us. We have put enough of our own money into the store in the last year just to keep it afloat but I am sad to say we really don’t have anything left at this stage, if we continue to trade we will just continue to lose money that we honestly do not have any more and thus we will end up paying off bank loans for the rest of our lives. I know a lot of people think if you have your own store that you have money behind you but believe me that is just a myth.

    Its been an absolutely amazing eleven years for us and neither of us regret one single second of it, when we close I will not be looking back on wasted time in any way.

    We have made some amazing friends through the shop and have had the pleasure of dealing with some truly fantastic bands [and their members].

    Without blowing my own trumpet I do think Dublin will be a worse place without us as I think from day one we were always the most approachable store for Irish bands and their independent releases, it was one of the main reasons for setting up the store [some of you may remember the fact that I spent most of my youth plugging away in bands with nowhere to sell our music] and we have always tried to be as supportive to local music as possible, mainly because people in this country make music as good as if not better than anywhere else but have never had a proper outlet to sell it. We have always had a policy to make sure to play Irish music in the store so people in here can hear it and understand the quality and diversity of music being made in Ireland. If we heard something that excited us then we would always go out of our way to promote it as much as possible both in the store and on the site.

    The reasons for the downturn are many and varied and if there was just one then we could try overcome that in some way but its no longer possible to pinpoint just one.

    I will try list some of the reasons I see for the death of the small shop and I really do hope I am not right in thinking that many more will go the same way, I have always been optimistic that this city can sustain a couple of smaller indie shops but I no longer believe that to be true, again, I really hope I am wrong with this opinion but the way people go about buying their music these days does not instill me with too much confidence.

    1. Regardless of what I have thought over the years downloading has effected our business, probably more so the illegal side of things, filesharhing and the likes. I speak as a shop on this one but god knows how much small bands suffer because of this aswell.

    2. Below cost sellers online, everybody wants a bargain and its hard to take the moral highground on this one, but everytime a purchase is made to the likes of Play etc is a nail in the coffin to the indie store, these online sellers don’t care one hoot about indie bands and music, they just need to sell in bulk and as quickly as possible. They will never put any money or effort back into indigenous music, try asking them to sell 50 copies of a beautiful hand made cdr release.

    3. The city centre just does not have the same volume of people walking around it anymore, its a simple fact, less people means less sales. We have noticed a massive downturn in the amount of people visiting the store in the last year.

    4. Kids don’t buy music anymore. That sounds like a fairly broad statement to make, I know there are still some out there but we don’t see any young people in the shop anymore so as we lose older customers we don’t gain any new ones.

    5. Obviously this country is going through a recession at the moment so it would be stupid of me to claim that this wasn’t having an effect on our business but having said that things were already beginning to change long before that.

    6. The deal with selling independent local releases always had to be a two way exchange for us, we never made much money from local releases [and that was never the idea] but we always sought the support of bands. By that I mean if we were selling your music then we would always appreciate the bands making a purchase in the store in return, sadly that did not always happen, and before you jump at me for making this statement I do accept that plenty of you out there were very supportive of us but take if from me we did have quite a lot of bands coming in to us with their own release to sell whilst also carrying a hmv bag with a purchase they had just made, simply because it was cheaper there.

    7. The cost of running a store in this city has increased dramatically in the past 4 / 5 years, rents have gone up so much, insurance increased, bank costs and so many other things that over the years it has become increasingly more difficult just to meet our costs on a week to week basis.

    8. Whilst this one may not seem so obvious the cost of an average cd or record in the store is now less than it was 5 / 6 years ago and that is a good thing to the consumer but it has also seriously dented our chances of making a living in any way, it just means we have to sell more to cover our costs but as I mentioned with less customers coming through the door that has not been possible.

    As you may gather from this piece we are both very very sad about the prospects of closing down our shop, this is our only way of making a living and now we are both back to square one with pretty much no money [and a brand new baby to support], I don’t know what either of us are going to do from now on but I’m sure we will survive.

    I say this from my heart that I really hope the last few remaining indie stores will survive in the city and I hope you can take time out to visit them and make a purchase, otherwise these stores will not make it through these times either, and don’t leave it for a couple of weeks, do it today as they really do need your support and its only when they are all gone that you will then miss them.

    Again, thank you all for your kind words and to anybody out there that has supported us in any way thank you also, we have had so much pleasure over the last eleven years doing what we do.

    Dave and Julie

    • Jim Carroll says:

      I’ve moved all the comments posted on the blog in the last 24 hours about Road Records from other posts to this one (apologies for any temporary blips which may have occured during this process – I couldn’t find any other other way to do this other than cut and paste).

    • Neill says:

      I’m gutted about Road Records. I won’t pretend I was a regular or knew the people who run it personally but I always made a point of dropping in when I was in town, purchased loads of stuff there over the years and the staff were always very pleasant and friendly, as far from the cliche of snobby “High Fidelity”-esque as one could get. RIP Road.

      Fingers crossed Freebird et al can hang in there, it would be awful to find Dublin losing all its indie stores.

    • Noise Annoys says:

      I was just in Road last night, chatting to Dave. I asked him how was business, he said “terrible, but you knew I was going to say that”. I’ve been a customer there since it opened in 1998, but like many others the amount of CDs I purchased from them has declined dramatically from the days where I would go in every couple of weeks and pick up 5 or 6.

      Dave and Julie were always so lovely and knowledgeable. It’ll be really sad to see them go.

      The good news is they had a baby a couple of months back!

    • Hot Lunch says:

      Tragic news about Road Records. The charming Dave and Julie turned on more than one generation over the years. They’ll be sorely missed.

    • Garethh says:

      Very sad to hear about road, I have fond memories of heading in there to get the newest Road Relish release on 7″. This undoubtedly is bad news for left of centre music in dublin, and ireland as a whole. we’ll on be on online record shops after this. (or maybe that was part of the problem.)

      Anyone who has a passion for music and mourns the passing of the local independent indie shop shares in the responsibility for these places closing down cos we didn’t patronise them enough

    • Very sad about Road. I feel like a fool for not utilising it more since I moved here a few months ago.

      I can’t shake the feeling that we haven’t seen anything yet, and this year is going to be a pretty shite one all round. That said, maybe things like this will force people to realise what’s really important and that we should do our best to support local/independent businesses and publications.

    • Joe says:

      Really sad to hear about Road Records closing. Being in Cork I’d never actually been, but heard from flynnduism that it was a good spot. I think any music fan around the country felt a little shiver reading the news – if an indie store in Dublin can’t break even…I’ll certainly endeavor to make an extra purchase in Plugd this weekend…

    • Fill3rup says:

      Damn shame about Road Records..Great Shop for picking up 7″’s…

    • Naomi says:

      Worst news I’ve heard all week: Road Records feel the crush of an iron gauntlet. This is terrible. Dublin’s going to be a grey place without their sunny yellow sign *sob*

    • Mumbling Deaf Ro says:

      Seems more bad news than good these days as Road Records has announced that it is closing. A real, real shame. Such nice people; they have given so much support to the independent scene.

    • Naomi says:

      In the wake of NightShift’s demise, State’s crunch, Road’s closure…it’s looking bloody dismal all-round.

    • Naomi says:

      Absolutely devastated to hear of Road, this far surpasses anything gloom-related of Irish music by a long-playing mile.

      I hate waiting for stuff to be subbed. I miss all this BSG wonderment til they put it on the tellybox. Must. Stay. Away. From. YouTube.
      I’ve not actually been to bed yet so that might go some way to beating back the cravings for a wee peek….

    • Chris says:

      This is a terribly sad day for Irish music. How many albums released in the last ten years have a shout-out to Dave and Julie on the credits? For those of us trying to plug away under the radar their encouragement was always a great boost and will be sadly missed. I can only assume I should start getting worried about City Disc as well.

    • alexkintner says:

      Sad to hear. Only went in the odd few times when in Dublin but did made few purchases.

      As for the lack of independent record shops, well Belfast has been without now for quite sometime. Only have HMV now that Zavvi will probably go. Bit of a nightmare.

    • This is a tragedy. I’m so sad. Dave and Julie were so incredibly supportive of independent Irish acts (including myself) it’s hard to imagine a world without them and their shop. Dublin will never be the same again.

    • …and let’s not forget Sentinel is shutting up shop too, which is a blow for metal fans.
      Many a weekend I’ve been dragged in there by the other half, he’s absolutely gutted it’s closing down.

    • Richard Branson says:

      At the risk of pissing on everyone’s parade, calm down – it’s just a record store.

      The way people buy music has changed – Road got a good run out of it for 11 years – things move on. Bands will still record albums and sell them (probably at their gigs). People will still find out about music. Life will – believe it or not – go on.

      Wake up and smell the coffee, folks

    • Chris says:

      Thanks for putting everything in perspective Mr. Branson, I feel so much better now. By the sounds of things Road had far from a good run of it over the last 11 years, sounds far more like they were running the place more or less as a labour of love. I’d be reasonably happy if you f***ed off back to your balloon.

    • Void says:

      Thanks Richard, you sound like an ass.

      It’s true, it’s just a record store. Then again it was my favourite record store in the city.

      I wish them all the best in the future with the new baby.

    • Noise Annoys says:

      @17

      Thing is, Road was more than a record store, as you can see from the above posts. That’s why people will miss it so much.

    • Matt Vinyl says:

      I love you Dave & Julie (& baby Paddy). Thanks for putting up with me.

    • John Lambert says:

      Terrible news. Very sad. Dublin certainly won´t be the same without Road. Might be nice to have a goodbye / thank you / fund raiser bash gig up in Whelans perhaps?

    • adnans says:

      This just caught up with Ireland. It has been happening all over America over the last couple of years if you’ve kept your eyes open on the music blogs.

      There’s a really cool documentary called “The Final Days of Full Circle Records”, a mom and pop record shop which had to close in 2006.

      You can watch it at google video for free if you have about an hour to kill – http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5081154471770054924

      The way people buy and procure music didn’t happen overnight and I’m sure Dave and Julie knew that. I wish them all the best though.

    • John Lambert – that’s a great idea!

    • Ronan says:

      Sad sad news. Hopefully Freebird can still afloat.

    • Ian says:

      that’s a great idea!

      Idea was already floated on thumped a few days ago when people began talking about the prospect of road folding.

    • S says:

      terrible news…Road are one of the few entities who support small Irish independent releases in this country.will be sorely missed!

    • Such sad news. Road is (or was – sniff!) an exemplary independent shop and Dublin is a crapper place without it. And John Lambert, that’s a really brilliant idea.

    • Peter81 says:

      Thats sad news. I can’t say I was a hardcore indie record shop goer, so I won’t miss it that much, but it was a nice place and always worth a visit to see what you’d find.

    • ciaran says:

      i will truly miss dave,julie and the whole road experience..it’s a sad day..

    • Tim says:

      Definitely sad news about Road. As has already been said it was more than a shop and Dave and Julie are the nicest music people I have met- always great to have a chat when you are getting a ticket or tunes. I found over the last year though that it was a tough call of trying to support the artist by buying the music at the gig or keep Road in the loop by getting it from them. Best of luck to them anyway and hopefully a fundraiser gig will get off the ground.

    • md says:

      When a friend of mine heard that Road was closing, he added – I wonder will they be having a closing down sale, like a vulture circling around a corpse. Seriously guys, doesn’t that just rub salt into the wounds.

    • dave says:

      What ‘Richard Branson’ says is true, but on the other hand the biggest asset Road Records has is its brand, and the goodwill it has built up with customers and there is no reason why they couldn’t open up roadrecords.ie right now and take advantage of that going forward in an online environment.

    • denisthemenace says:

      very, very sad news, I always popped in when I was in the capital and will sorely miss the shop, best wishes for the future to Dave & Julie

    • clom says:

      RIP Road.

      Always tried to pick something up when i was back in Dublin. Normally to moans of despair amongst my companions as they knew that there was no chance of getting anywhere near the boozer for another hour.

      I’ll have to fire on a scatter of Road-purchased records tonight and remember happier times.

    • Richie says:

      Terrible news. They’re really nice people and it was just about the friendliest example of an indie record shop that you could find. Instrumental in supporting local bands over the past decade too. Not wanting to over-simplify things, but shops like that have quite a specific target demographic, and I think this pretty much a case of: one generation of indie music fans gets older and no longer has the same amount of time and disposable income it used to have, and the next generation has grown up on the iPod/MP3s and doesn’t feel the same need to own a physical artifact of the music. It’s sad, but it’s hard to see any shops of that kind surviving much longer unless they branch out into other products or something.

    • Ray says:

      Thats lousy. Best of luck for the future

    • Hugh says:

      md – that is a bit insensitive all right but ….. it would do no harm to go in and buy some stuff from them before they close … they could probably do with selling off as much stock as they can.

    • John Hennessy says:

      Very sad to get confirmation of what has been whispered for a while. I moved to Dublin over a decade ago and have been fortunate to have purchased most of my favourite albums in Road. I spent a good deal of that time booking Whelans and then the Village before leaving a few yers ago to pursue other interests,i.e. managing PInky and Giveamanakick(for a time). While being labours of love as you can imagine it has been some time since I’ve had ‘disposable income’ to spend regularly on music. Throughout this time Dave and Julie have been friendly, generous and supportive. I feel physically heartbroken that they now have to start their lives afresh after such dedication, love and respect over the years.

    • Colette C. says:

      I’m in NYC at the moment and am checking the IT website for news from home. This is not the news I was expecting. They announced here in NYC just a few days ago that the large Virgin Megastore just around the corner in Times Square is closing. I think the way people do buy music has played a really big part in the demise of Road – there are a generation of people who believe that you don’t and shouldn’t have to pay for their aural pleasure. Sadly, I’m not one of them and still enjoy browsing for my CDs. Unfortunately, I will not be able to do my browsing in Road from now on. A sad sad day.

      Colette

    • RG Cuan says:

      Sad news indeed.

      And about State, it was well put together but probably did not stand out enough from the mainstream music mags.

      Interestingly, a pretty funky Irish language magazine, nós*, which also launched in March has recently made the jump from http://www.nosmag.com to print…


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