On The Record

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    November 17, 2008 @ 8:47 am | by Jim Carroll

    (1) Just how good were TV On The Radio on Saturday night? How about intense, searing, life-affirming, rollicking, immense and magnificent? Anyone who walked away from that show feeling otherwise must have lost the power to be moved by music or to have their synapses blown away. It was a show to remind you just how incredible a bunch of folks with guitars, drums, microphones and a Moog can be when the mood is right. If everyone at the gig who claims to be in a band went away after that show and set about trying to produce music as good as that, the world would be a much better place. And that’s a show which didn’t even feature one of my favourite tunes of Zero Nine, “Halfway Home”. Interesting to see too that TVOTR were flogging their tees from the tour-bus outside the venue after the gig.

    (2) Unlike some people, On The Record did not receive an invitation to Silvio’s supper last week, but we’re not bitter about it. No, really, we’re not bitter about missing out on all that food (house-cured Irish salmon, grilled tenderloin steak and vanilla crème brulee - don’t flaming like crème brulee anyway) and entertainment (the Irish Chamber Orchestra under the direction of Prof Micheal Ó Suilleabháin as well as a troupe of set-dancers - sure, it was like a night out at Johnnie Fox’s). The guest-list does make fascinating reading - wonder if there is any connection between some people on the list and soft interviews carried out with Silvio in the past? Where was the love for Silvio’s fellow Feck Lisbon advocates from the Sinn Fein camp? And will Silvio be throwing similar bashes (with vegetarian options and line-dancing) for all those who plan to vote No in the Lisbon 2 referdendum?

    (3) As most of you will know by now, Jay Reatard was a no-show in Dublin last night leaving a couple of dozen fans of Memphis garage punk-rock kicking their heels on a Sunday night. Dude missed his flight from Hotlanta, y’know. Shame on the Heineken Green Synergy people for not sending a private jet to pick him up. Fecking sponsors….

    (4) Malcolm Gladwell’s new tome Outliers is published this week and Tim Adams had a fascinating piece on Gladwell and the book in yesterday’s Observer. Gladwell fans who find themselves in London next Monday might like to know that he’s giving two lectures at the Lyceum while he’s in town.

    (5) Staying with the Observer, there was an odd piece on Jamie Oliver in the Food Monthly supplement yesterday. It would seem that Rachel Cooke had a bit of her chip on her shoulder about Oliver (at least three mentions of his cars and jeeps) and his Ministry of Food initiative which led to a piece which as disjointed as a badly roasted rib of beef.

    (6) If you’re only going to see one film this year about a cowboy who found God, Karl Rove and the keys to the White House, it will unfortunately have to be W. Oliver Stone’s film is the cinematic equivalent of one of those cut and paste books you get after a band become overnight successes. Josh Brolin is superb, but the story hits more bumps and raises more dust than a drive down a bumpy Texan blue highway. John Waters, on the other hand, seems to go to flicks like W with his eyes on the audience rather than the big screen.

    (7) Those who have not already checked out the Nick Thinks blog should make amends this morning. Every day, Ruan plays his dad, Nick, an album. Every day, Nick tells Ruan what he makes of the album.

    (8) From the On The Record parish newsletter. Regular wisecracking reader and man-about-Dublin-town Matt Vinyl is back on the radio. Yes, the Golden Maverick rides again and this time, he ain’t got no calf milk replacer. Every Monday night from 11pm to 1am, Matt sits in his salubrious penthouse and plays a selection of tunes which, thanks to the wonders of the interweb and a VPN, are then broadcast on Power FM. He takes requests too.

    (9) Excellent piece from Keith Duggan on John Dower’s Thrilla In Manila documentary which revisits the Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier bout from 1975 and especially all the trash-talking which went on in the lead-up to the fight. On a similar boxing tip, the peerless When We Were Kings was also on the box last week, giving you another take on Ali in all his pomp.

    (10) Busted! Nialler9 has found some interesting, uhm, similarities between a review of a new Coldplay EP which appeared in The Sun and a review of the same yoke in Hot Press. Question: what the hell was Nialler9 doing reading reviews of a Coldplay EP to begin with?

    (11) And finally, one of the highlights from Saturday night.

  • 87 Comments »

    1.
    November 17, 2008
    9:28 am

    I didn’t think TVotR were much good. The music was great but their voices let them down. For some reason they bury their voices under the mush and then try and scream to be heard. After a while it just started to irritate me.

    I didn’t really sense the crowd were all that into it either. They got a good applause after every song but the atmosphere dropped more than a few times and apart from one or two songs, nobody really got into it.

    I liked W. but I’m not an expert on US politics. Maybe thats the key. Brolin was excellent, the board room scenes were gripping. If its mostly fiction I didn’t mind.

    Comment by Peter81
    2.
    November 17, 2008
    9:34 am

    Bah…lack of funds bedamned, really wanted to check out TV On The Radio but having just gone up to the big schmoke for Fleet Foxes, another trip up so soon was out of the question. The much fun Adebisi Shank on Friday night here in Cork was my consolation. Shield Your Eyes were a bit ‘meh’. (Now in the dictionary, people.)

    I’d love it if Nialler went all Detective Jim Carroll on some of the backlash comments on that Coldplay post, see where they’re being posted from.

    Comment by Joe
    3.
    November 17, 2008
    9:43 am

    TVOTR were amazing - best gig I’ve been to this year. They were just the most exciting and powerful act I’ve seen in ages. As Jim said, anyone who couldn’t get into it has obviously got too complacent and cynical. I heard two fat lads outside afterwards giving out yards because there was someone in their seats and that ruined the gig for them - they probably wanted Tunde to come serve drinks to them as well.

    Comment by Maeve
    4.
    November 17, 2008
    9:45 am

    “a couple of dozen fans” is a bit harsh, Jim. There was a lot of interest in Jay Reatard’s gig last night - a shame it didn’t happen. Hopefully there’ll be an opportunity to slot in a date sooner rather than later, which given his touring schedule isn’t unlikely.

    Comment by Fiona
    5.
    November 17, 2008
    9:45 am

    TVOTR were magnificent the other night. I was a little apprehensive going in, read some interview where they came across as a little difficult and thought that could translate into onstage preciousness. Wrong wrong wrong. I never pictured Dave Sitek as an old school guitar thrasher, but there he was giving it loads, lepping around the stage like a young fella. Great mixture of new and old tunes (made my weekend to hear so many off ‘Desparate Youth…’), great atmosphere and great to see a band who haven’t played here six times already this year- they seemed fresh and really up for it. You forget how good gigs in Dublin can be sometimes…

    Comment by Chris
    6.
    November 17, 2008
    9:53 am

    Peter81 - I thought the vocals were spot-on but I couldn’t hear what Tunde was saying inbetween songs. I’ve seen them twice before but this was just the best by far

    Joe - I still want to know what Nialler was doing reading Coldplay reviews to begin with. Maybe he’s a closet Chris Martin fan?

    Maeve - I think I heard those lads complaining as well. They were steaming beause someone was sitting in their seats? Why didn’t they get one of the millions of ushers upstairs to help them then? And since when does having to stand at a gig spoil your enjoyment of the show?

    Fiona - I reckon “a couple of dozen” is about right given the capacity of the venue and the fact that it was not sold out. Dont get me wrong, I’m a huge fan too and was all set to go until I heard the gig was off

    Chris - “great to see a band who haven’t played here six times already this year”. Exactly - now, that’s a rarity. Wonder will that change next year?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    7.
    November 17, 2008
    9:54 am

    1) Just how good were TV On The Radio on Saturday night?

    Not very I thought. It only kicked into high gear for me with the encore. And Dave Sitek’s delay+reverb+distortion fretting a whole chord and playing as fast as possible thing that he did for most of the night was a little overbearing. It’s the second time I’ve been underwhelmed by them live now, seems as far as I’m concerned they’re a studio band. And after talking to a good few people who agreed with me I don’t think it’s as I thought it might have been as I watched the gig a post built to spill hangover.

    I was wondering why there was no merch on sale at the venue. I wanted to pick up Dear Science,. I guess I’ll get it in a shop now but the band won’t get as big a slice of the sale now. Venues charging commission on merch sales is pretty reprehensible. Do the band get a cut of the bar I wonder? I think fucking not.

    3) Oh boy I was so pissed off when I got to Whelan’s last night. Seemingly zero effort was put in to informing the punters that it was off. I’d bought my ticket via ticketmaster online, it would have been really easy to send out a mailshot saying that it was off. From digging around afterwards seemingly the only places that had the info that the gig wasn’t happening was the thumped forums and Totally Dublin and that info doesn’t seem to have come from the promoters trying to get the word out. Pricks, pricks pricks.

    6) Spot on, as you said Brolin is great in it but the film seems like an exercise in shoehorning in some of George’s more famous comedy gold phrases.

    7) Again, I agree. It’s a great blog, both in concept and execution. Wouldn’t work with my dad though.

    Comment by Ian
    8.
    November 17, 2008
    10:02 am

    I’d say a strong dollar and weak euro might just about overcome most American bands’ overwhelming desire to play here every other week. It’ll be a heartbreaker for them no doubt.

    Comment by Chris
    9.
    November 17, 2008
    10:07 am

    Ian, the merch was sellotaped to the front of the bus outside the venue.

    Cynical? No way. I wanted to enjoy the show.

    Comment by Peter81
    10.
    November 17, 2008
    10:08 am

    And ian, the merch included the CD for €15.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    11.
    November 17, 2008
    10:39 am

    the merch included the CD for €15.

    Vinyl?

    Comment by Ian
    12.
    November 17, 2008
    10:58 am

    I’m guessing it was where you were sitting/standing if you had a good time on Saturday.
    I thought the gig was ridiculously good. Like it’s silly how awesome I thought it was. And I was next to Mr Carroll so where we were, the sound rocked like a motherfucker.

    Comment by Pedro
    13.
    November 17, 2008
    11:28 am

    Yeah that Thriller in Manilla documentary was wonderful, fascinating stuff. Nice to get When we Were Kings the day after also. Hard the know which one is better, Kings has the dramatic storyline but Thriller gets my vote for sheer realism, wonderfully complex stuff…. and Mr. Duggan nails it as he always does :)

    Comment by enda
    14.
    November 17, 2008
    11:34 am

    Couldn’t agree more about TVOTR Jim. Baffled by all the negative feedback! .

    Comment by Paul
    15.
    November 17, 2008
    11:34 am

    I should warn any potential listeners that the level of professionalism involved in my broadcasts isn’t exceptionally high. That might explain why other real radio stations have given me the knockback any time I’ve asked for a job.

    For clarity’s sake you can listen live at this link:
    http://live.powerfm.org/asx/eu.asx

    or if you register as a member you can check out the archived shows at this link:
    http://www.powerfm.org/wwwboard/viewforum.php?f=80

    Thanks for the plug Jim. Who loves you baby?

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    16.
    November 17, 2008
    11:44 am

    I can’t understand all the negative reports from saturday night either. We had balcony seats and the sound was spot on. I’ve seen people complaining about how early Wolf Like Me was played but I almost wet myself with excitement and how good it was and I would have done so regardless of when they played it.
    One of the best gigs I’ve seen this year.

    Comment by Sarah
    17.
    November 17, 2008
    11:57 am

    Totally agree with Sarah above me.
    Although I initially got annoyed when Wolf Like Me was played so early, but I calmed down when the next song started.
    The best thing about the gig (and Jim pointed this out too) was that it didn’t cater to just the Dear Science heads.
    The band played “Young Liars” - a song that Tunde & Sitek wrote about 6 years ago, before Kyp had even joined the band.
    A lot of old songs got played which was brilliant.
    And did anyone else notice how loud a roar they got when they started to play “A Method”…?

    Comment by Pedro
    18.
    November 17, 2008
    12:06 pm

    Thought TVOTR were great the other night as well. The sound wasn’t the best, it was all over the place at the start and remained quite muddy throughout, but I was quite close so maybe it was better further back. Was hoping for a bit of a longer set than 70mins but couldn’t complain too much. Not as good as the Cardinals last week but definitely one of the better gigs of the year

    Comment by Neil
    19.
    November 17, 2008
    12:07 pm

    I thought TV On The Radio were really good saturday night, i had a good time, but they definitely didn’t blow me away. I’m not being negative, i bloody love them, love all of their albums, i think they are really exciting, but there was something lacking on saturday. They have such a dense sound with the guitars that it seems like the singers have to work too hard to be heard. Tunde is awesome, he puts so much energy into it, but i think he has to force his vocals too much to be heard, and i think they lose some of their subtleties. There were some great highlights; Wolf Like Me, Satellite, Stork & Owl, A Method were great, but equally Staring At The Sun was really disappointing. And i really missed the brass on Dancing Choose. But still, a good night.

    Comment by Ciaran
    20.
    November 17, 2008
    12:12 pm

    Cut Copy did a cracking set in the Village on Saturday night. I think it showed what a solid album ‘In Ghost Colours Is’. They also did a few off their first album, which I’m not familiar with. One or two new ones in their two. They finished up with ‘Hearts On Fire’ but the place went mad a few minutes earlier for ‘Lights And Music’. It was sold out and the crowd were really up for it. Pretty much everyone got stuck in.

    Re W: You could tell the writing was a bit rushed but there are some excellent performances and it’s a nice and shiny production for something made in four months. I was hoping for Stone to repeat the Nixon treatment but maybe that just wasn’t possible - Dubya’s life story is not a complex one.

    Also, re John Waters: I made a point of seeing W when I was in New York recently so I could get a sense of the Yanks’ reaction. They laughed everywhere you’d expect them to and they found Thandie Newton hilarious as Condi Rice, which she was. But whatever affection they once had for the man is long gone.

    Finally, on artists missing their planes, one of the Mercy Arms guitarists was absent because customs wouldn’t let him in. ‘What did he do?’ the crowd demanded to know. He lost his passport apparently. Very rock n roll.

    Comment by Eoin Bannon
    21.
    November 17, 2008
    12:14 pm

    I am very surprised to read the positive reviews of TVotR, and have to side with Ian. I absolutely love the new album, and am not a music cynic usually, but I really thought it stunk on Sat night. My mate was over the other side of Tripod from me and thought the same. Maybe Jim, Paul and Pedro were in some magical noise tunnel where it all sounded clear and wonderful. But on either side of the venue, lead vocal was inaudible and layers were indistinguishable. At times I could barely make out what song was being played such was the muffle. And a look at any youtube clip of them live would suggest this wasn’t a one-off, which pains me to say, as they really are a top, top band in studio.

    Comment by Ferg
    22.
    November 17, 2008
    12:28 pm

    Maybe Jim, Paul and Pedro were in some magical noise tunnel where it all sounded clear and wonderful. But on either side of the venue, lead vocal was inaudible and layers were indistinguishable.

    I love how people try to patronise you if you’ve had a good time at a gig and they didn’t.
    I’m sorry you thought everything was inaudible & indistinguishable but I heard everything perfectly and had a good time.
    You have one opinion and we have a differing view point towards the gig.

    Comment by Pedro
    23.
    November 17, 2008
    12:46 pm

    TVOTR were good — but not amazing. I was hoping for more of a sense of build-up — I thought they dispatched the set very efficiently, and often very well, but they looked like guys who didn’t care much for having an audience — it was a little bit too ‘we’re serious artists, respect us’ for my liking. That said, Wolf Like Me was amazing — and DLZ.

    Comment by Nadine
    24.
    November 17, 2008
    12:51 pm

    I’m beginning wonder were there two different TV On The Radio gigs on Saturday night

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    25.
    November 17, 2008
    12:55 pm

    Maybe so! At least where I was, though, everyone around me looked a wee bit let down as they were filing out…

    Comment by Nadine
    26.
    November 17, 2008
    1:09 pm

    There may well have been - I was also distinctly underwhelmed by the gig. It certainly had its moments, particularly DLZ, but the sound wasn’t great where I was, and yeah, Dave Sitek’s guitar was completely overbearing at times.

    Comment by matlock
    27.
    November 17, 2008
    1:13 pm

    I had a good time. One of the better gigs I have been to in Tripod. It appears some people’s expectations were so high that if the band didn’t do everything exactly perfect, then people had a shit time.

    Some of these comments are interesting and I like that different people had outrageously contrasting opinions on the gig but Nadine, what you just said is embarrassing.

    “Serious artists, respect us.”
    How did you come to that conclusion?
    Please enlighten me and let me know how you gathered that from witnessing a band perform their songs on stage? Did you want a stand up routine in between songs? Or perhaps you would have liked for Tunde to offer to buy you a drink and for Sitek to take you out to dinner afterwards?

    Comment by Alex
    28.
    November 17, 2008
    1:29 pm

    i don’t know anything by tv on the radio…

    but pedro, i’m not sure ferg was overly patronising there… maybe a tad… he could have a point though… sound quality can be very different depending on where you are relative to the stage / speakers…

    Comment by Ally
    29.
    November 17, 2008
    1:51 pm

    In the 2nd paragraph of Keith Duggans’ piece about the Thrill in Manilla he refers to ‘that soupy morning in Kinshasa’. How did that get past an editor? Just curious.

    Comment by Speewah
    30.
    November 17, 2008
    1:55 pm

    So no-one has any opinion on Jamie Oliver, then?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    31.
    November 17, 2008
    1:58 pm

    I opted for Cut Copy instead of TVOTR and wasn’t disappointed - they were excellent. I wasn’t moved by Clinic on Wednesday night though.

    Comment by Lenny
    32.
    November 17, 2008
    2:07 pm

    TVOTR were decent, but really did not blow me away. Wolf Like Me should be so much more live!

    And as far as plagiarism goes, it always amuses me when a number of publications publish inaccurate facts about a band in their reviews because of wikipedia.

    Gar Gar

    Comment by Gar Gar
    33.
    November 17, 2008
    2:13 pm

    Ah, get over yourself Alex. Honestly I thought a few more words to the audience wouldn’t have gone astray…I like TVOTR a lot and in general I don’t think they’re pretentious, but I did feel like they ignored their audience a little — and I was left wondering why…

    Comment by Nadine
    34.
    November 17, 2008
    2:17 pm

    Seems I made the less popular gig choice for the second weekend in a row, however just to throw some dissent into the mix, I was distinctly underwhelmed by the Cut Copy gig. It felt more akin to a dj-set than a live gig at times and the vocals were very flat much more like their first album than the recorded vocals on the excellent In Ghost Colours.

    What’s with the Jamie Oliver obsession, Jim? I’d say Rachel Cooke is spot on, this is the guy who takes home £1.2 million from Sainsburys every year and then gets up on his high horse about people’s eating habits.

    Comment by mreeyore
    35.
    November 17, 2008
    2:25 pm

    I chose Dengue Fever over all the other treats of Saturday night and they were fantastic.

    I never knew before how much of a Cambodian surf rock shaped void there was in my life before- but that’s been well & truly sorted out. The band were great, it was hilarious to see such tall men pogo-ing on the tiny Sugar Club stage. There was a real party atmosphere with lots of the audience, myself included dancing in front of the stage- at Nom’s request I might add! One of the best gigs this year and had what the Cardinals gig severly lacked, a sense of fun and the band really enjoying what they do..

    Comment by Lorelei
    36.
    November 17, 2008
    2:28 pm

    mreeyore - you might want to read the interview in question because that question was asked and answered.

    What I find weird about the piece is that it was plugged as “A Uniquely Revealing Interview” on the front of the Observer and it turned out to be anything but - more revealing about the author than anything else. Interestingly, by the time the late edition went to press and someone got around to reading the piece, that caption on P1 had changed to “The Minister for Food”.

    Now, Malcom Gladwell (just to make sure that everything raised in the weekly random post gets an airing….)

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    37.
    November 17, 2008
    3:03 pm

    Jim, I did read the article before answering otherwise I wouldn’t have commented. I felt the question was plainly asked and then incoherently fudged much as Oliver fudged similar questions back in January when he backed down after criticising the supermarkets.

    Another OFM writer, Joanna Blythman has written on numerous occasions of why his backing of Sainsburys and his Ministry of Food are two diametrically opposed positions and perhaps puts it a bit clearer than Rachel.

    Comment by mreeyore
    38.
    November 17, 2008
    3:21 pm

    So no-one has any opinion on Jamie Oliver, then?

    His band are shit.

    Comment by Ian
    39.
    November 17, 2008
    3:25 pm

    I’d love to go see Malcolm Gladwell but he clashes with the Alain de Botton gig in the Apollo. From what I’ve heard he’s more of a studio writer anyway, all the subtlety is lost live…stick with the oul books, wha?

    Comment by Chris
    40.
    November 17, 2008
    3:27 pm

    I was going to refrain from commenting on TV On The Radio after my less-than-positive words about Fleet Foxes last week. But it seems I’m not the only one who wasn’t blown away like Jim. The sound was definitely a bit iffy - the vocals on the second song played (sorry I don’t know the band members names, it was the bassist standing on the left) were absent for the first verse.

    Also, what’s the deal with a band who have three albums worth of material walking off pre-encore at 10.02pm?

    Comment by Do'h
    41.
    November 17, 2008
    3:47 pm

    Another dissenter here. It was good, not great. Also, re: the merch - I could have sworn I heard Yo Majesty tell the crowd that the reason they chose not to sell their merch at Tripod when they supported Neon Neon the other week, was because the venue demanded 40% of the takings. Is that true?!

    Comment by Lauren
    42.
    November 17, 2008
    4:15 pm

    I heard 50% mentioned at TVOTR on saturday. Thats seems bloody ridiculous in fairness. Do other venues demand this?

    Comment by flynnduism
    43.
    November 17, 2008
    4:23 pm

    yay Lorelei! It was looking like I’d have to be the only OTR reader who attended the amazing Dengue Fever gig. That was excellent!

    I was up the front too in full on fanboy mode, singing along (phonetically at least). They played the classics, like ‘Ma Pi Naok’ and ‘Chnam Oun 16′. Chhom Nimol is the real deal, no question about it, and the guys in the band know how to dish out the psychedelic surf-rock. Then they stuck around for ages afterwards, chatting away… great gig.

    Comment by Justin
    44.
    November 17, 2008
    4:31 pm

    I wonder did TVOTR pay VAT on those shirts they sold outside the venue

    Comment by Fred
    45.
    November 17, 2008
    4:41 pm

    Yep, Yo Majesty said it was 40% on merchandise. ‘Hell to-the No’ was what they said about paying it!

    Obviously its higher than normal, but they do have to pay for someone to sit in the little box all night, or do the band pay them? Who knows…

    Comment by Morgan Quinn
    46.
    November 17, 2008
    4:48 pm

    On a sidenote, Springsteen’s announced his new album today.

    Working on a Dream was recorded with the E Street Band and features twelve new Springsteen compositions plus two bonus tracks. It is the fourth collaboration between Springsteen and Brendan O’Brien, who produced and mixed the album.

    Track list:
    1. Outlaw Pete
    2. My Lucky Day
    3. Working On a Dream
    4. Queen of the Supermarket
    5. What Love Can Do
    6. This Life
    7. Good Eye
    8. Tomorrow Never Knows
    9. Life Itself
    10. Kingdom of Days
    11. Surprise, Surprise
    12. The Last Carnival

    Bonus tracks:
    The Wrestler
    A Night with the Jersey Devil

    Comment by Neil
    47.
    November 17, 2008
    4:55 pm

    Neil - Any word on when this was recorded? I wonder are these tracks from the “Magic” sessions or brand new ones written/recorded post-tour?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    48.
    November 17, 2008
    4:56 pm

    Sorry meant to post the rest of the press release.

    Springsteen said, “Towards the end of recording Magic, excited by the return to pop production sounds, I continued writing. When my friend producer Brendan O’Brien heard the new songs, he said, ‘Let’s keep going.’ Over the course of the next year, that’s just what we did, recording with the E Street Band during the breaks on last year’s tour. I hope Working on a Dream has caught the energy of the band fresh off the road from some of the most exciting shows we’ve ever done. All the songs were written quickly, we usually used one of our first few takes, and we all had a blast making this one from beginning to end.”

    Working on a Dream is Bruce Springsteen’s twenty-fourth album and was recorded and mixed at Southern Tracks in Atlanta, GA with additional recording in New York City, Los Angeles, and New Jersey. [press release from www.shorefire.com]

    Comment by Neil
    49.
    November 17, 2008
    5:18 pm

    @ 43. Hey Justin , I’m glad someone else had as good a time as I did. Must perfect my spelling of Cambodian names- I think I amalgamated poor Chhom Nimol’s names.

    Jim, that Springsteen post has reminded me to ask if you have heard anything further about the Gaslight Anthem gig ?

    It seems to have vanished from ticketmaster - they say there are no gigs scheduled for Ireland and have links to December dates in Glasgow & London..

    Comment by Lorelei
    50.
    November 17, 2008
    5:22 pm

    Anyone else secretly hope that track 8 is a cover out of a perverse curiosity as to what The Boss’ take on Lennon’s LSD trips would be like?

    Comment by Joe
    51.
    November 17, 2008
    5:40 pm

    -Was bitterly disappointed that Jay Reatard didn’t play. Coulda been a late contender for gig of the year. I was supposed to interview him for analogue ‘n all. That’s the second time he stood me up. The first was an arranged phone interview that led to a smug answer machine message. Would still love to interview him though, find out if it is true that matador advanced him a large six figures for his next album and that he’s rapidly ahem ‘hoovering’ his way through that advance in old school rock n roll fashion?

    The Whelans crew are probably glad that they didn’t have to deal with a local kid with acute shoe damage to a temporal lobe.

    Jamie Oliver is a great influence. The Observer piece flapped around some sentiments expressed in various Sunday TV reviews and didn’t really land on target.

    Comment by gardenhead
    52.
    November 17, 2008
    5:49 pm

    Jay Reatard missed the flight from Atlanta because problems on the Memphis-Atlanta leg delayed both take-off AND landing. Entirely not his fault.

    Comment by Fiona
    54.
    November 17, 2008
    6:00 pm

    Fiona - “Entirely not his fault.”

    Can you point out to me where in the post above I implied that this was his fault?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    55.
    November 17, 2008
    6:06 pm

    Jim, I’m not suggesting you implied it was his fault. Just stating the fact that it wasn’t, for the record, should any readers be under any illusion of their own creating that it was.

    Comment by Fiona
    56.
    November 17, 2008
    6:25 pm

    Fiona - sorry about that! Point taken

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    57.
    November 17, 2008
    6:32 pm

    tvotr were amazing but i thought the set was a little short.they left out quite a few great tunes but i suppose all the best gigs have you leaving the venue wanting more

    Comment by petee
    58.
    November 17, 2008
    7:28 pm

    I took in Cass Mccombs on Saturday night which was a bit of a disappointment as the crowd was so poor..The band and Cass were very good and Cass’ guitaring is as sweet as a nut but the nice flks at Whelans decided to let in all the ‘club’ goers about half an hour before the end of the sat so the end was ruined by chatting and people looking for the jacks..
    ?uestlove played a great hiphop set in Solas last night..it took a while to get going but the place was really rocking by the end of his 3 hour set

    Comment by Pandemic
    59.
    November 17, 2008
    7:31 pm

    the Villagers were outstanding in their support of Cass McCombs.. ‘Pieces’ is one of the best Irish tracks of the year

    Comment by Pandemic
    60.
    November 17, 2008
    7:58 pm

    I don’t think you should ever expect tvotr to sound as good live as they do on record. i thought the sound was fairly good for them now, but had no higher expectations. Seemed a bit atmosphere-less as well, with people around me who knew nothing prior to Dear Science gaping in confusion when they opened with Young liars. I really think they’re a band whose material you need to know before you watch them live to appreciate them fully. I think I preferred the encore more though I was thrilled they played Blues from down here. Staring at the sun was also schmantastic!

    Comment by Grooooowwlll
    61.
    November 17, 2008
    8:06 pm

    Thought TVotR was a bit of a letdown. Like many others, the sound where I was (front left, back and centre, near front and centre-ish) was very muddy, but then I’ve thought that about every gig I’ve ever seen in Tripod (admittedly only 4-5, but still a worrying trend). Bad acoustics? Bad sound engineers? Undiscovered Indian burial ground under the foundations? Also, would it be fair to say the more positive comments on here regarding the sound were mostly from the balcony dwellers?

    “The best thing about the gig (and Jim pointed this out too) was that it didn’t cater to just the Dear Science heads.”

    That was the worst thing about the gig. No, hang on, the sound was the worst thing about the gig. That was the second worst thing about the gig.

    Comment by Kieran
    62.
    November 17, 2008
    8:15 pm

    I think what’s dividing opinion on TVOTR (apart from the arguably questionable sound in Tripod) could be that they seem to bring different interpretations of their songs to their live shows.

    Personally I kinda like it when you don’t just get a studio-quality version of the album tracks. So I loved the trance-y ‘Staring at the Sun’, and the messy, thrashy ‘Wrong Way’… but i can see how that could annoy folk.

    And i think it rocks that Tunde gets so into it that at some points he’s more yelling than singing. Awesome.

    (could have gone on for an extra half hour or so, though…)

    Comment by Clockwork Rob
    63.
    November 18, 2008
    1:26 am

    Yes Jim, the Jamie Oliver interview was odd. It wasn’t great but it wasn’t awful either. Yeah, the author had a chip on her shoulder about some things but she also let him air his views on the future of his ministry for food as a not-for-profit venture and getting the government involved, which I thought was interesting.

    However, the portrait photo of the magazine was stupid and contrived. Apparently he’s crying - you can see tears roll down his face. Maybe he was chopping onions at the time.

    Comment by Eoin
    64.
    November 18, 2008
    9:50 am

    For what it’s worth, I thought the TVotR gig was a let down - the sound was absolutely dreadful. I rarely let that annoy me too much at gigs but much of the set was inaudible. The claim that it was one of the best gigs of the year has me utterly baffled.

    And I have not lost the power to be moved by music, nor have I had my synapses blown away.

    Comment by A different Eoin
    65.
    November 18, 2008
    10:51 am

    Lisbon 2.0 is certainly back on the radar.
    Did anyone get to check out Silvio and Aine Lawlor last night on rte?
    Across on tv3, Vincenzo was as entertaining as ever with Patricia, Lucinda, Noel Whelan and Dick Roche going at it hammer and tongs. Dick managed to endear himself to smug patronisers everywhere with his usual performance, even calling Vincent a daft brush. He drew out a wonderful withering look from Vincent.

    Silvio held his own pretty well. Aine tried to probe him about his backers, with no real success. It must have been recorded prior to his fish supper with Europe’s mad and bad, as there were no questions about his guests.

    I like your description of TVOTR gig. Life-affirming and intense certainly. Can’t ask for much more from rock and roll. When I go to a gig, I am much more interested in seeing how the raw ingredients are pieced together. It allows the crowd (plus the sound quality) become fundamental elements in the overall experience. When it all clicks, you’re laughing. For me, that was a gig where it all clicked.

    I’m looking forward to checking out Malcolm Gladwell’s new tome. I’m sure there will be some obvious parallels with his analysis of the success of pro hockey players over yonder and our generation of soccerstars. I wonder will it extend to footballers and hurlers… likewise will Silvio fit his breakdown of how “self made men” emerge.

    On an aside, this guy does a great Michael Owen.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2QEm028lKA

    Comment by paub
    66.
    November 18, 2008
    10:55 am

    Only a couple of mentions of Cut Copy? Does everyone who was there agree that they were fantastic (fun)? And that Mercy Arms were muck?

    Comment by Fasty
    67.
    November 18, 2008
    12:10 pm

    That was the worst thing about the gig. No, hang on, the sound was the worst thing about the gig. That was the second worst thing about the gig.

    Agree to disagree.
    The sound worked for me and I prefer earlier TVOTR material than Dear Science. Still a great album, but in no way competes with their earlier work.

    Comment by Pedro
    68.
    November 18, 2008
    12:15 pm

    paub @ 65 - bollox, i meant to tape that interview with Silvio. I’ve stopped watching Nighty Night with VB because his eyebrows scare me and I dont think those sighs and tuts work as well on TV as radio. I wonder if VB is fuming about getting left off the guest list for the big dinner after that lovely soft intv he gave Silvio back in May. Probably not.

    And I can’t wait to read the Gladwell book either. I love his stuff for the New Yorker and he extrapolates the weirdest data from the most seemingly straightforward of occurences.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    69.
    November 18, 2008
    12:19 pm

    @ Pedro - wasn’t intending to be patronising, although it is hard to comment on these things without being a smart-alec. if you had a good time at the gig then that’s fine. But it seems plenty people share my opinion.

    Comment by Ferg
    70.
    November 18, 2008
    1:09 pm

    If you really are up for some Silvio time, the programme seems to be archived here.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/onetoone

    She follows an interesting line in trying to identify a point in time where he shifted from voting yes to Nice 2 and then writing a series of articles for neo-con think tanks, talking up the dangers of an EU superstate. He dismisses the idea that some of his hardcore US military mates may have taken him under their wing.

    Comment by paub
    71.
    November 18, 2008
    2:11 pm

    Gladwell is in the John Hume Institute, UCD. on Thursday 27th if you want to catch him here.

    Comment by sarah
    72.
    November 18, 2008
    2:16 pm

    Gladwell is in the John Hume Institute, UCD. on Thursday 27th if you want to catch him here.

    Awesome. Thanks sarah - any links for tickets etc?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    73.
    November 18, 2008
    2:22 pm

    You can try emailing here, that’s what I did, and they sent me an invite by email, johnhumeinstitute@ucd.ie It’s free!

    Comment by sarah
    74.
    November 18, 2008
    2:32 pm

    Brilliant sarah, thanks! will do that now - cant find any info online about it but when I get some info from them, I’ll post it

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    75.
    November 18, 2008
    2:40 pm

    Fasty - Cut Copy were fantastic and fun. Mercy Arms were poor but they were missing a guitarist and the sound wasn’t great, but you’ll have that…

    Comment by Eoin
    76.
    November 18, 2008
    2:42 pm
    77.
    November 18, 2008
    2:49 pm

    Mully - yep, found that (finally). Cound find nothing via Google

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    78.
    November 18, 2008
    8:16 pm

    TVotR - never heard such disparate views on a gig. i loved what i saw, though it definitely didn’t sound as good as the album at times.

    met some of the band in crawdaddy later that night and they said they a nightmare althought they enjoyed the gig - first gig of the tour, certain effects pedals not working… etc

    there was definitely no problem with the sound at Fat Freddys Drop on Sunday night. one of the best gig i’ve ever been to full-stop. ‘life-affirming’, as JC himself would say

    Comment by Deeko
    79.
    November 18, 2008
    11:28 pm

    Couldn’t believe the smallness of the crowd at Cass McCombs but now I understand. Don’t get TVOTR at all. McCombs was wonderful I though, a total geek but a born musician. Villagers were particularly brilliant too, took me back to when I saw the Thrills support Lowgold in the same venue a long long time ago.

    Comment by hugger
    80.
    November 19, 2008
    10:11 am

    just a wee note for those thinking of heading to volcano! in whelans tonight… been changed to an 11.30 doors open for midnight start…

    rules me out unfortunately…

    Comment by Ally
    81.
    November 19, 2008
    11:57 am

    @78 - I’m delighted someone went to Fat Freddys Drop. That’s the second time I’ve been unable to see them here in Dublin. They’re not everyones cup of tea but I think they’re great. They most likely timed the gig to coincide with the New Zealand rugby teams tour of Ireland. Were there many people at the gig?

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    82.
    November 19, 2008
    6:16 pm

    Matt - I think if anyone knows if there were many people at this gig, it is Deeko. Hopefully he’ll come back and tell us how many were there ;-)

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    83.
    November 20, 2008
    12:35 pm

    Fat Freddy’s was sold out. I was busy sorting out a babysitter and left it too late to get a ticket. Humbug.
    I’d be interested to hear how Stee Downes was.

    Joe Dukie has popped up on Recloose’s new album, Perfect Timing. Recloose’s blog is also well worth a look. http://hititandquititradio.blogspot.com/

    Comment by paub
    84.
    November 20, 2008
    2:31 pm

    Deeko : Yeah I was in the front row and noticed the effects unit not working at the start. A stage hand changed the power supply which did they trick. Band did not look impressed - some dirty looks thrown to the side of the stage!

    Comment by Sean D
    85.
    November 20, 2008
    5:38 pm

    yep Fat Freddys Drop was sold out in advance. they’ve come a long way. of course i was one of the 60 odd people who saw them in Crawdaddy about 4 years ago. into them before you and all that.

    Stee Downes was brilliant, his album is solid too. he’s doing a couple of gigs in december, recommended

    Comment by Deeko
    86.
    November 20, 2008
    5:55 pm

    That Stee Downes album is the business alright - pretty fly for a Dublin guy, so to speak

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    87.
    November 21, 2008
    11:29 am

    I had never been to a gig in tripod before but have been at 2 in the last month - TVOTR and Neon Neon. The atmosphere has been really subdued at both.
    I found the sound and the setup disappointing at TVOTR. It didn’t seem loud enough by a long shot but Tunde’s vocals were still muffled. I was standing in the front section to the left of the mixing desk. It would have been better if they had some sort of string sound be it real or synthesised as this is a great aspect of Dear Science. Also, they only played for about 70 mins?

    Comment by Kieran

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