On The Record

  • The re-up - from Belem to bedlam

    August 24, 2008 @ 9:13 pm | by Jim Carroll

    (1) Who killed Sam Sparro? Well, it was certainly not the Lovebox people who had him on the bill for Marlay Park last weeked on their website from the get-go. So, lets try to get this straight. Sparro was announced for Lovebox in Dublin. Cometh the hour, though, not cometh the man. There was no sign of him on the running order for the show, there was no word from the promoters about the cancellation and the gig was not even mentioned on his MySpace. Like, what the hell happened there? Will the hundreds (nah, thousands) of Sparro fans who bought a ticket for the show be able to get a refund because he didn’t show? Is Sparro the new Prince? And, while we’re at it, any other stories from the Box Of Love people would like to share with the group?

    (2) More hell. Does anyone know what the hell is going on at State magazine? In terms of weird posts, this one takes the gold, silver and bronze medals (though some may be calling for a dope test). Is this the curse of Abbagate?

    (3) Hot as hell? We’re on a roll here, people, stick with us. Belem was hot. Proper tropical humidity all day long except for the two crazy monsoon showers. Only mad dogs and Irishmen would go for a stroll in this kind of Amazonian heat. Actually, hang on, the dogs gave it a miss too. Belem was where I got a taste of tecnobrega, the completely insane favela pop music which ducks and dives, cuts and pastes, robs and steals from all over the place. Culchie baile funk - if only Diplo had come here instead of Sao Paulo and he had taken a ride with the taxi-driver we had on Sunday morning (I reckon he was one of the Senna family). By the by, the tecnobrega scene is a part of the music industry that is using piracy in a very interesting way.

    (4) What does hell look like? Hey, I like the way this is going. Want a sneak preview of The 02? Thrillpier Ian has had a quick look around inside.

    (5) Hell, no. The Liquid Liquid show has been pulled. Not enough people prepared to pay for tickets, methinks.

    (6) The Brazilian adventure is now at an end, with our last seminar taking place on Saturday in Belem. It really did feel like a band on tour, complete with moaning, whinges, in-jokes, superb catering, tantrums and some fantastic star performances. What we need now is an agent to book us some shows in Argentina, Mexico and Chile. Any takers? Muito obrigada to my travelling companions for sharing the trip.

    (7) Hell, no (parte dois). Seems like Lenny is also not coming to town. A mooted gig at Dublin’s 02 had been listed on his website for December 1, but it has now been yanked from the list. Maybe Lenny has made enough cash from his Irish dates this year to pay for a new hat and some nice Christmas presents for the folks.

    (8) Hey, any reports from the gig by the other Lenny last week? How many people showed up for it? Did it rain? Was it ironic? Any of those MCD folks who usually hang out here care to give us a copy of the Ticketmaster manifest for the show? C’mon guys, I keep showing you mine so you should show me yours.

    (9) Fiddy, can you spare a dime? Here’s why 50 Cent is the richest cash cow in hip-hop, even if he never spits into a mic again. Many of us hope his people at Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley are telling him to give up the rapping and stick with the mining.

    (10) Did you know that girls are not supposed to go to gigs? You didn’t? Well, you’re missing all the fun over at Chez Rocks.

    (11) If there’s a hell below, we’re all going to go. Have a read of this fine piece by Hugh Linehan on Paul Durcan’s strop with the Catholic Church (or as Hugh puts it “the unattractive spectacle of ageing irreconcilables hurling juvenile insults at Catholic bishops for doing what Catholic bishops are supposed to do. And worse, in verse”).

    Much to quote from it, including this:

    “But there does appear to be a generation which, despite having raged against the church since puberty, seems unwilling just to let it go its own way. Perhaps due to unpleasant formative experiences at the hands of the Catholic education system of the 1950s and 1960s, it seems to regress to the most tedious and banal adolescent abuse whenever the subject comes up.”

    (12) And finally, keeping with the religious theme, we hear that POD Concerts have brought in a large consignment of Child of Prague statues ahead of next weekend. The word according to the weatherman, for those who still have faith in that particular testament, is as follows:

    “Thursday will be largely dry and bright with sunny spells. Feeling very mild, even warm with highest temperatures ranging 18 to 23 degrees, again warmest across the southern half of the country, with mainly moderate southwesterly breezes persisting.”

    Here’s a video from the Stradbally-bound Wilco to get folks in the mood. Hey, anyone know any good songs about wellingtons and mud?

  • 56 Comments »

    1.
    August 25, 2008
    1:07 am

    So I hear EP is/was in serious danger of being cancelled due to the poor drainage on the site which means they can’t get rid of the water from the recent deluge.

    You heard anything about that, Jim?

    Comment by Neill
    2.
    August 25, 2008
    9:46 am

    we left the box of ***** at about 7.30 along with several others on saturday. The guards had closed off the tent the gorillaz sound system were in and told us that we’d get an update in 50mins. It was pissing rain and there was no other shelter so we left. The bus drivers said they’d heard the promotor was hoping that the concert would be cancelled due to the bad weather as ticket sales were v. poor.

    Comment by ams
    3.
    August 25, 2008
    10:48 am

    Neill - EP happening rain, hail, sun or snow. Bring a hat, wellingtons, sun-cream, a jumper and a Morrissey t-shirt and you will be fine.

    ams (and anyone else) - why was the tent closed off?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    4.
    August 25, 2008
    10:53 am

    Lenny Kravitz was rockin at Marley Park, getting out of the car park was god awful though, it’s a rubbish venue to get to.

    Comment by sarah
    5.
    August 25, 2008
    10:54 am

    I almost wish I was going just to see Wilco again. They were marvellous in Vicar St.

    Comment by Peter81
    6.
    August 25, 2008
    11:05 am

    Re Kack Box, was lots and lots of free tickets doing the rounds on Friday evening and Sat morning, I have not seen any reviews as yet could not imagine too many went.

    Comment by spacey
    7.
    August 25, 2008
    11:12 am

    Speaking of reviews….

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/0825/1219449685432.html

    The moral of the story? NEVER confiscate the brolly of an Irish Times scribe.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    8.
    August 25, 2008
    11:21 am

    4) Jim is that proposed Vicar St. 2 part of the Point Vilalge complex? Because I heard when I was down there last week that that development had been halted.

    Changing topic to something sorta musical related. David O’Doherty has won what was formerly the Perrier award at the Edinburgh Festival.

    Comment by Ian
    9.
    August 25, 2008
    11:25 am

    there’s an interesting review over on analogue too- another story of OTT security.

    http://www.analoguemagazine.com/reviews/lovebox-2008/

    (interest declared)

    Comment by Andrew
    10.
    August 25, 2008
    11:33 am

    One of our writers had a similar experience to Eoin with Security.

    http://www.analoguemagazine.com/reviews/lovebox-2008/

    Comment by Bren
    11.
    August 25, 2008
    11:36 am

    It was Lovebox Jim, but not as we know it! Waited all day for Sam Sparro to come on but no show with no explanation. Not good enough and I got the blame from boyfriend thinking we missed him as I decided to arrive ‘late’ at 4pm. Will be seeking a refund!

    Comment by Mike
    12.
    August 25, 2008
    11:48 am

    woo hoo EP week and still no timetable

    Comment by petee
    13.
    August 25, 2008
    11:56 am

    MCD still recruting security in outside mountjoy by the sounds of that review

    Comment by spacey
    14.
    August 25, 2008
    12:01 pm

    They wouldnt say what was wrong with it but we thought it was more likely that the gorillaz sound system didnt bother showing up - dont know anyone who stayed so cant confirm that.

    Swiped four deadly big brollies out of the confiscated skip on the way out though - they took ours off us on the way in so it was karma!

    Comment by ams
    15.
    August 25, 2008
    12:02 pm

    with a heavy heart i sold my ep ticket this morn. apparently the site is in bits. this coupled with the poor line up and obviously our great irish climate forced my hand

    Comment by emdee
    16.
    August 25, 2008
    12:18 pm

    Tent was closed for health and safety due to the wind Jim, I didn’t wait around for Soundsystem, they came on after NERD in the end a couple of hours later.

    Comment by Sean D
    17.
    August 25, 2008
    12:23 pm

    What were they doing even bringing a brolly to a gig in the first place? Had it been put up in any kind of crowd you can rest assured it would have been used as a weapon. Most likely against the owner, and possibly by me.

    Comment by Void
    18.
    August 25, 2008
    12:38 pm

    The Sparro thing was very strange, and I couldn’t get an answer, eiither.

    Now I wonder has the same thing happened for the Clinic/These New Puritans double bill for the Green Synergy festival. These New Puritans have been taken off the Ticketmaster listing, and there’s no mention of it anywhere on their official or MySpace sites, either.. although maybe they just haven’t gotten around to updating it yet.

    Comment by Lauren
    19.
    August 25, 2008
    1:08 pm

    What were they doing bringing a brolly in the first place though? Had it been put up in any sort of crowd there would be a very real threat it would be used as a weapon. Most likely be used against the owner and very possibly wielded by myself.

    As for bottle tops, the last two times I fell afoul of it a lighthearted, cynical and non-confrontational comment seemed to be enough for the staff to subtly leave the bottle top on the counter long enough for me to pocket it. Long may it continue.

    Awful shame about Liquid Liquid being pulled. Truth be known I thought the ticket price too expensive so sourced a guestlist spot for myself. My prudence it seems is part of the problem.

    Comment by Void
    20.
    August 25, 2008
    1:48 pm

    Honestly, Lovebox was pretty rubbish. Bad enough line-up to begin with, N*E*R*D were great but the place emptied out before Maximo Park even came on. The rain didn’t help - not much of an atmosphere and knackers galore.

    Also, what happened to the NYC Downlow 3 storey filmset stage that was advertised? It was nowhere to be seen.

    Comment by Seán
    21.
    August 25, 2008
    1:51 pm

    Awesome as they are, Wilco are only getting an hour on the main stage Saturday !

    Comment by Sean
    22.
    August 25, 2008
    1:53 pm

    inside info from people working on site at ep is that the site is fine. bit soggy around the main routes but the festival zone is surprisingly good. a decent week and it should be top drawer…. although im sure another shitty week and it could be oxegen2007 all over again

    Comment by david
    23.
    August 25, 2008
    2:20 pm

    well ignore my pervious post. i’ve managed to get hold of an EP timetable

    Comment by petee
    24.
    August 25, 2008
    2:33 pm

    Just on all these “rumours” about the state of the EP site - the word is, as david puts it at 22, that the site is fine. The main production routes are muddy but the rest of the venue is in good shape. And see www.meteireann.ie for weather updates.

    Makes me wonder if I should go and check where those “rumours” are coming from……

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    25.
    August 25, 2008
    2:39 pm

    http://forum.electricpicnic.ie/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4874
    Dont know how reliable it is, mind you.

    Comment by P&M
    26.
    August 25, 2008
    2:42 pm

    Saw Santogold from V festival on BBC last night,if i was going to EP i’d be up the front for that..

    Comment by fill3rup
    27.
    August 25, 2008
    2:53 pm

    that line up on the forum is missing the acts added last week like Ulrich Schnauss and Fields….
    I imagine its an older draft doing the rounds within POD.

    Comment by david
    28.
    August 25, 2008
    2:57 pm

    RE: Picnic site, have heard the production / stage areas are in bits, but the rest is ok.

    Comment by unarocks
    29.
    August 25, 2008
    2:57 pm

    Ulrich Schnauss is there but at an odd time - 2 to 2.45 on Saturday.

    Comment by P&M
    30.
    August 25, 2008
    3:00 pm

    line up i have here has Ulrich on at 14:00 Sat in the Electric Arena.

    http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll194/glastohoney/band20times-1.jpg

    Comment by Void
    31.
    August 25, 2008
    3:07 pm

    David @ 27

    That line up has Ulrich Schnauss at 2pm for Electric Arena.
    Likewise, I didn’t see Fields on it though

    Comment by Ciarán
    32.
    August 25, 2008
    3:13 pm

    Longtime reader, first-time poster! (Always wanted to say that)

    Was at the Stradbally site this morning. LIke Jim @ 24 and Una @ 28 said, the production areas are naturally muddy because of the amount of site traffic, but the rest of the site is grand and fairly dry because there has been no traffic on it for a while. The forecast isn’t bad either for the rest of the week, though I didnt see any Children of Prague statues when I was there.

    Comment by Sammy
    33.
    August 25, 2008
    3:22 pm

    Anyone know if there’s anything planned for 10:50-12:00 sunday in the Arena after MBV?
    Also is there any truth to the rumour that all contracts for MBV shows have a clause demanding no volume retrictions from the promoters? I really want to believe it but surely the licence agreement wont allow it.

    Comment by Void
    34.
    August 25, 2008
    3:35 pm

    Apparently so…after seeing them in Manchester, I’d definitely keep the ear plugs in this time.

    This still makes me smile:
    http://jonathan.greer.users.btopenworld.com/images/kevinshields.jpg

    Comment by Ciarán
    35.
    August 25, 2008
    3:37 pm

    RE: volume restrictions. Well, it’s not as if Stradbally is a residential area, although I’m sure the other acts won’t appreciate 132dB of white noise bleeding into their sound.

    Comment by unarocks
    36.
    August 25, 2008
    3:38 pm

    (and by ‘Stradbally’, I mean the Electric Picnic site, which is loike, fields and shit)

    Comment by unarocks
    37.
    August 25, 2008
    3:40 pm

    it’s not as if Stradbally is a residential area

    Ah, una, forfecksake, just because it’s outside Dublin doesn’t mean people don’t live there.

    As for white noise bleeding into other band’s set, anything which interferes with the Sex Pistols on the main stage is OK by me

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    38.
    August 25, 2008
    3:46 pm

    If Dublin Bus arrange a service for Friday night I may travel up and down each day as a lot of people I know have sold their ticket due to concerns over the bad weather. It’s either that or sleep in the car/cinema tent!

    Comment by Sean D
    39.
    August 25, 2008
    4:08 pm

    Last year there were folk outside the tents measuring the decibel levels. I’m pretty sure licencing plays a part* with the frankly pathetic quality of soundsystems on this island.
    Last week I was at Iron Maiden in Budapest in a field that must of easily topped 70,000 people. Even from behind the sound desk you could feel the bass make your trousers flap. Compare that to 7,000 in a tent for Tom Waits here and still the sound was “distant”. Even the Sex Pistols sounded great on that mainstage, and it was the same speaker set as they used 2 years ago.

    *along with the prevailing culture of audiences rarely knowing how much better they should have it, getting served sh*te and then calling it Gellato**

    **boutique ice-cream

    Comment by Void
    40.
    August 25, 2008
    4:31 pm

    Well, Jim, there is a difference between having really REALLY loud music @ the RDS or Marlay Park, which would interfere with thousands of people in the immediate area, and having it at the Electric Picnic site, which is pretty sparse when it comes to residential population, no?

    Comment by unarocks
    41.
    August 25, 2008
    4:45 pm

    i carried a major feckin buzzin in my ears for 3 days after the first Roundhouse MBV show. The holocaust section was 20 min but I hear they went to 30 in Glasgow. Ear plugs people…. dont try to me all cool like I was trying to be an lose 5% of your hearing permanently….. I saw massive attack 2 days later and it sounded like Del Naja hired some puppies to do backing…. yeah im a feckin eejit
    Thank fuck its not outdoors though. Electric Arena should do the job nicely…
    But seriously…. looking at that schedule…. the noise at the end of You Made Me Realise will coincide with Sex Pistols starting…. so I can see Chromeo getting som extra business.

    Comment by david
    42.
    August 25, 2008
    4:51 pm

    Someone has only gone and set up a weather sticky for the EP here:

    http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/event_forecast.asp?eventID=1073

    Looks alright to me.

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    43.
    August 25, 2008
    5:45 pm

    I saw MBV in Manchester.They did a 35 - 40 minute white noise rockout on ‘you made me realise’, that was the only time I bothered with the ear plugs. I was standing right in front of the stage and I was fine afterwards. Can’t wait to see em again! Hope they bring more strobes too…

    Comment by Bren
    44.
    August 25, 2008
    6:31 pm

    jerry dammers cancels. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Comment by petee
    45.
    August 25, 2008
    6:38 pm

    Was at Lovebox (got a free ticket) - not a good vibe at all. Sparse crowd, crap weather, dodgy punters - got started on by a drugged up fifteen year old. They closed the tend due to ‘high winds’ but the weather was fine most of the time; I have a suspicion that they wanted to get more of a crowd out at the main stage for N*E*R*D*.

    I left at half 8 to go to Seu Jorge in Monkstown - much cooler, and given the high number of Brazilians, better looking crowd

    Comment by simon
    46.
    August 25, 2008
    8:17 pm

    Lovebox = Poxfest. N*E*R*D were great. But they deserved a better venue/audience. Maximo Park were mediocre and Kid Creole me hole. Paolo Nuitini was sloshed and not much good. I had heard on Thursday that Sam the Sparro would not be there. Blatant false advertising re: Gorillaz Soundsystem, Sparro and NYC thingy. MCD Bastardos. And as for the amount of young scrotes at the gig asking us to buy them pints… don’t get me started!

    Comment by NaRocRoc
    47.
    August 26, 2008
    11:12 am

    So people are selling their EP Tickets due to weather concerns? I presume these peiople have just arrived in Ireland from the Bahamas as that would only explain their horror that EP could be muddy.

    Comment by nerraw
    48.
    August 26, 2008
    11:19 am

    nerraw - you said it. I would have thought people who live here are well used to this kind of weather. If you want a festival with sunshine and no mud, go to Benicassim. Irish (and UK) fests will ALWAYS be subject to possible inclement weather.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    49.
    August 26, 2008
    11:40 am

    Re: weather concerns - I’m a lightweight ok! no fun raving in the mud!

    Comment by emdee
    50.
    August 26, 2008
    11:47 am

    Here’s the weather forecast from Met Eireann

    ”Thursday will be a largely dry, warm day, with some good spells of sunshine at times. Temperatures will climb to the high teens, possibly the low twenties further inland, with light to moderate westerly winds. It will be a similar day on Friday, with temperatures again in the high teens and the low twenties. The warmer weather will be in the east of the country. Winds will be light to moderate and will back to a more southerly direction. Saturday will see temperatures falling back a degree or two, it will still be mild, with light to moderate south to southwest winds. It will be a mostly dry day, however, some rain will develop along western coastal areas during the evening”

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    51.
    August 26, 2008
    12:09 pm

    I can hardly blame people for selling their tickets. Sure, its Ireland, but with the summer we’re after having the prospect of another rainstorm to stand in (worse case scenarios I know, but likely!) wouldn’t fill me festival joy either.

    Comment by Peter81
    52.
    August 26, 2008
    12:56 pm

    A bit of rain is one thing. No problem with that. But the rain we’ve seen this summer has been something else. The prospect of camping in the midst of a deluge of biblical proportions…no thanks.

    Comment by Neill
    53.
    August 26, 2008
    2:18 pm

    rain is no fun i agree but wud it not b worth it to see grindermen?!

    Comment by Dave
    54.
    August 26, 2008
    5:08 pm

    Sod the weather! A lot of the gigs are in tents if you’re that worried. If it’s sunny it just makes it better…..but I’ll be having fun regardless!

    Comment by le Catch
    55.
    August 27, 2008
    4:30 pm

    Sorry to derail the discussion about weather and Electric Picnic, but I just wanted to say I’m really disapointed about the Liquid Liquid gig, I was pretty darn exceited about it.

    Comment by Elaine
    56.
    August 28, 2008
    11:29 pm

    oops for the repost on the Liquid Liquid news, I hadn’t seen this post (I was off on holliers).

    Tecnobrega is mental!

    Comment by Justin Mason

    Leave a comment


    • (will not be published)


Search On The Record

 
Close
E-mail It