On The Record

  • All eyes on next U2 album after poor reissue sales

    August 15, 2008 @ 4:13 am | by Jim Carroll

    That sound you can hear in the background is the sound of the U2 machine cranking up.

    With a new album due in the next couple of months - the appearance of the perennial “U2 tapes stolen” story must be just around the corner – and the band have announced another batch of reissues.

    The Live At Red Rocks DVD and the Under a Blood Red Sky live album will be released on September 26th.

    The band, record label and assorted interested parties will be hoping this bout of catalogue pimping will produce better results than their last reissue campaign.

    The revamped and remastered “Boy”, “October” and “War” albums have sold poorly in Ireland. In the three weeks between the release date on July 18th and August 7th, “Boy” and “War” accumulated less than 900 sales apiece, while “October” shifted just over 600 copies.

    Of course, reissues have a limited appeal and are usually viewed as long-term catalogue products. However, U2’s lavish
    reissues did receive a lot of media attention, and the poor sales indicate possible fanbase fatigue.

    The real attention, though, will be on the reaction to the next album. A new U2 record has always been seen as an event
    release and something that gets people into the record shops. But changes in how the retail sector operates, and especially in how music is distributed, has meant such event releases are now largely a thing of the past.

    With this album due to appear on a Universal label as usual, any intentions the band may have had of doing a Radiohead with the release don’t appear to have materialised.

    Meanwhile, the band’s new partners at Live Nation – who have inked a multi-million dollar deal with the band covering touring, merchandise and website activities for the next 12 years – will be hoping that the band hit the road early in 2009. That’s where the real money is to be made – and the live shows may even help to flog more of that back catalogue.

  • 31 Comments »

    1.
    August 15, 2008
    9:19 am

    It’s always amazed me how the U2 machine keeps rolling on in the years between new studio album releases…reissues, best-ofs, 3-D movies, etc…they never seem to go away. Apparently the title of the new album is ‘No Line On The Horizon’ and the big comeback single will be called ‘Sexy Boots’. I will be very surprised if the new album is not crap. Their creative decline since ‘Achtung, Baby’ has been painful to watch and listen to, culminating with their last album, which was shockingly poor.

    Comment by Quint
    2.
    August 15, 2008
    9:34 am

    Que U2 playing 10 nights in the O2 next Spring.

    Comment by Sean D
    3.
    August 15, 2008
    9:55 am

    With a new album due in the next couple of months - the appearance of the perennial “U2 tapes stolen” story must be just around the corner – and the band have announced another batch of reissues.

    On the Phantom news not 20 minutes ago. Some dude happened to be happening by Bono’s house in France and heard unreleased U2 music being played for people. The resourceful bugger happened to have some sort of recording equipment with him and taped what he heard. Then he happened home and put the recordings on YouTube.

    And that’s how it happened.

    Comment by Ian
    4.
    August 15, 2008
    10:25 am

    Wow - U2 albums - albeit reissues - selling fewer than a thousand copies really surprises me. I must email them and ask them if they’d like a support slot. Is it not weird to release reissues and live albums in the same year that you’re doing a new album? Seems to me that you’re draining your fans’ pockets. I always thought those types of things were done as a filler when there’s a hiatus between albums.

    Comment by Mumblin' Deaf Ro
    5.
    August 15, 2008
    10:42 am
    6.
    August 15, 2008
    11:03 am

    I don’t know why anyone is surprised that these re-releases haven’t sold so well when there’s a new album ‘on the horizon’!! This new album is what all the anticipation and talk is about - just look at U2.com and that’s mainly what members are talking about. I think it’s wind-up-talk to suggest that there’s may be U2 fan fatigue - just watch the tickets go when the live dates are announced…. and the crazy prices that people will be prepared to pay on ebay.

    Speaking of ebay I have recently noticed that Ticketmaster UK have linked themselves to ‘GetMeIn.com’ where “Tickets in high demand events usually trade above face value.” But thoughtfully: At GET ME IN! “we are committed to providing a free and open marketplace, where ticket prices are based on their market value.” Although it does appear that the tickets will have to pass through GetMeIn.com and the seller will not be paid until the buyer has received their tickets. Ticketmaster can no longet complain about scalpers really can they!

    Apologies for the distraction from the u2 theme.

    Comment by Redhead
    7.
    August 15, 2008
    12:29 pm

    I think the story on leaked songs has already surfaced!!

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article1560603.ece

    Comment by spazz
    8.
    August 15, 2008
    2:00 pm

    This was on NME.com reporting on todays gossip:

    A U2 fan struck gold when he heard Bono blasting out the band’s new album from his villa in the south of France. The quick-thinking fan recorded the songs and uploaded them to YouTube (The Sun).

    Comment by K
    9.
    August 15, 2008
    2:44 pm

    “U2 stolen tapes” - How could you be so cynical Jim? Next you’ll be saying Louie Walsh is behind those “Boyzone almost killed in plane crash” stories.

    On second thoughts maybe your right. “Bungling Bono blamed for leaked U2 tracks”

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article1560603.ece

    Comment by Kyle B
    10.
    August 15, 2008
    3:25 pm

    U2’s music just doesn’t weather the years very well in my opinion.
    Being in the moment is where they make their sales. But their later albums are few and far between.
    I’m sure the new album will be pretty similar to the last few - lackluster and uneven, with maybe 2/3 decent singles. They can’t afford to take any creative leaps like they did on their only decent album Achtung Baby.

    Comment by dave
    11.
    August 15, 2008
    5:47 pm

    here’s your leak story, bono takes giving music to fans for free to the next level (you can get in some sun at the same time in the south of france)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2562342/New-U2-album-leaked-online-after-Bono-plays-songs-too-loudly.html

    Comment by peter
    12.
    August 15, 2008
    6:48 pm

    Maybe they have done a Radiohead without knowing it - I thought I saw the new album up on a torrent site yesterday, mind you I still couldn’t be arsed to download it!

    Comment by Tabletop Joe
    13.
    August 16, 2008
    2:48 am

    Good to see that I can now predict the next day’s news in advance. Wonder if there is any money in that kind of thing?

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    14.
    August 16, 2008
    9:43 am

    Who cares about U2 and their washed up albums? My Bloody Valentine are the most influential Irish group ever - and the best.

    Comment by Uvox
    15.
    August 16, 2008
    9:58 am

    Sadly no danger of a “Stolen Planning Permission Application” will ever surface.

    Comment by Uvox
    16.
    August 16, 2008
    10:48 am

    Dave:”They can’t afford to take any creative leaps like they did on their only decent album Achtung Baby.”

    You could argue that they couldn’t afford to make that creative leap to Achtung Baby either. Previous album ‘Rattle and Hum’ was a critical misstep and a few years had passed with nothing on the shelves. Right now they’re riding on the back of Grammies and lucrative tours; they could probably do a Gary Glitter covers album and still absorb the hit.

    But if they make another bland arena Rock album that’s foisted on us for the next year from every supermarket tannoy and taxi-cab then they should be rounded up on Killiney beach, forced into a dingy and fucked off into the Irish Sea. Then we’ll see if they make a line in the horizon.

    Comment by Peter81
    17.
    August 16, 2008
    11:43 am

    Who cares about U2 and their washed up albums? My Bloody Valentine are the most influential Irish group ever - and the best.

    I was always a Rollerskate Skinny man meself.. massively underrated Irish band..

    Comment by fill3rup
    18.
    August 16, 2008
    6:35 pm

    Maybe it’s time for Rick ‘the resurrector’ Rubin to take over the production for the lads, not that it would make me want to buy any of their albums - how about calling the new album ‘dross, dross and more dross still’!

    Comment by Tabletop Joe
    19.
    August 19, 2008
    1:56 am

    I’m amazed at the negative comments regarding U2 and their music. Every album with the exception of POP has been spot on - very good to incredible. Even if you don’t like them - there are certainly far worse bands by anyone’s standards. They’ve got the songwriting skills, the hooks, the Edge, and the energy. They’re brave enough to take on the weightier topics in pop music and not care about being cool in the typical sense. Their best music is transcendent and soulful, their message is so often a powerful and good force in this world. Even the last album had several good and a few excellent tracks with no duds to speak of. The only problems IMO were a ridiculous album title and the lack of a concrete theme tying the tracks together. The sound of ‘Achtung Baby’ and the revolutionary Zoo TV Tour is one of the greatest transformations of any band period. Joshua Tree was also a masterful work brimming with passion and maturity. Bono might be a bonehead sometimes (overall he’s brilliant) but don’t allow personality to overshadow the music. Some of the best music has layers, revealing itself with repeated listening. It’s a shame that most of us have stopped REALLY LISTENING at one point or another! And if you can make better music -then by all means make it…just don’t be surprised when people criticize you or leach on to every word you say,

    Comment by dennis
    20.
    August 19, 2008
    2:15 am

    Are people actually saying that Lemon, Stay, Crashed Car, First Time, Dirty Day, Do You Feel Loved, MOFO, Gone, Miami, Please, Wake Up Dead Man, Walk On, Kite, In A Little While, When I Look At The World, New York, Vertigo, Miracle Drug, Love and Peace, Crumbs, Original of the Species are all no good……and bland???
    It has actually become all to easy to bash them just because of their worldwide success. U2 works harder than anyone else out there. Their last tour potentially brought in a new breed of diehard U2 fans, and by the crankiness of some of their long-time fans, U2 surely needs new diehards.
    There is a problem with music in general, as older people are getting to old and cranky to support bands that make a difference and progressive music that matters, and the younger crowds seems to have the here-today-gone-tomorrow mentality that will prevent and limit musical progression.

    Comment by Paul
    21.
    August 19, 2008
    8:38 am

    Paul: “There is a problem with music in general, as older people are getting to old and cranky to support bands that make a difference and progressive music that matters,”

    Paul, have a read of this blog sometime. You’ll find plenty of old “crankys” who are supportive and enthusiastic about new, progressive bands who hold some sort of relevancy in 2008. You’re obviously a little pissed off that your favourite band is getting a bit of a bashing but don’t accuse people here not being interested in music because the prospect of a new u2 album isn’t setting the blog on fire.

    I think u2 are bland because they present us with a Rock album that’s supposedly back to basics and raw and yet it has a polished, radio-friendly sheen that’s at odds with the music. The sound is colourless and overproduced and the songs are custom made for fans to shout back at the band in a big field somewhere. If I didn’t have to endure their singles I wouldn’t have a problem with them.

    Comment by Peter81
    22.
    August 19, 2008
    11:35 am

    Funny - I’ve just realised that absolutely no-one has discussed the really poor Irish reissue sales for the band since the “leak” story went public. Way to go to kill off a bad news story (not that I’m a conspiracy theorist or anything, like)

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    23.
    August 19, 2008
    2:54 pm

    Well, Jim I’m not convinced that the masses understand what re-mastering is about or really buy into it. There are probably a lot of folks wondering ‘how much better can it sound’ or are treating it like a die-hard collectors item. That coupled with the fact that many people buy online - and IMO it would be pointless to buy these re-issues online because the quality just wouldn’t compare to CD. Also, the market has been flooded with U2 books, a 3D movie, and re-issue tour DVD’s already, so even from a packaging/extra photo perspective - most fans bought the coffee table book already -so how many photos of the band do you need to stare at? Still, these album re-masters have more than 1 purpose. By making the first 3 albums available around the same time, the public can’t help but take notice. More importantly, U2 have always been concerned with their image - how the public sees them. The re-issue of their 1st 3 albums is timed to generate interest in their new upcoming album, and more importantly to align themselves with newer bands who are or have been involved in the post-punk resurgence. It’s smart on U2’s part because they realize it’s hard for the ‘kids’ to see them as a youthful post-punk band when they were introduced to U2 through their older siblings or even worse…their parents. So ultimately, U2 are cautious not to be seen as bloated stadium Dad-rock behemoths. They would prefer to be seen as hip post-punk pioneers. And even though they weren’t quite aligned with their peers in the late ’70’s and early ’80’s the preferred image does hold some credence. And everyone from Coldplay to The Editors have been mining much of U2’s past atmospherics and the Edge’s sonic palate. Coldplay going so far as to bring in Brian Eno to produce not just any album…but their 4th album. And, what was U2’s 4th album? It was The Unforgettable Fire, the first time Brian Eno produced for U2. It’s no coincidence - Coldplay are obsessed with this album and were hoping for a revolutionary change in their own sound -or rather U2’s. I think seeing these U2 re-issues on the shelves is pretty exciting (especially in vinyl) even though I personally haven’t bought them - yet. It reminds me of the feeling I had when I did originally by these albums years ago. It was wonderful to remember being a teenager and rushing out to buy U2’s latest…the feeling of anticipation and mystery in their music. Those are feelings I hope to never lose when encountering a new piece of music. And, LOL if you’ve read this far - I think these re-issues will pay off for U2 in the long run - especially if their new album is excellent.

    Comment by dennis
    24.
    August 19, 2008
    3:09 pm

    They lost that slightly adventurous edge that used to keep them from being a run-of-the-mill stadium rock act almost a decade ago.. the last 2 albums have mostly been a regurgitation of their older sound welded on to tame modern pop production, and Bono can’t write a non-cringeworthy lyric to save his life anymore.. The prospect of their new single being called ‘Sexy Boots’ makes me glad I gave up on them a while back. As for poor reissue sales, the first 3 albums were the least popular in their catalogue, and reissues are generally something that only the hardcore fanbase will pick up on anyway. The ‘Boy’ one was worth buying for the bonus content, not sure about the other two.

    Comment by dermot
    25.
    August 19, 2008
    5:10 pm

    I’ll happily admit to being a U2 nut and a completist - I was quite happy to fill my cd collection with absolutely everything they ever released (and plenty of pre-internet bootleg cds for 30 pounds from dingy dublin record stores for good measure). I even bought U218 for some bizaare reason…

    But I finally drew the line at those reissues - they sound identical and the extras are nothing more than curios that were already supposed to be on iTunes. Furthermore the albums are now 4 times the price that they were in record shops this time last year. They need to be told to their faces that they have taken the absolute piss once too often and I’m glad people haven’t bought them.

    Dennis - Pop wipes the floor with this decade’s two releases.

    Comment by dealga
    26.
    August 20, 2008
    3:58 pm

    I avoid remasters like the plague, does it not always mean just that the loudness is cranked up to the headache inducing levels which, sadly, prevail now?

    Comment by Andrew
    27.
    August 21, 2008
    12:19 pm

    It really depends, album to album. Some first generation CDs are pretty woeful sounding and can only benefit from a remaster. I got a Kinks album a few years ago called “the Village Green Preservation Society” . It sounded like it was a straight transfer from vinyl on a cheaper label. The songs are great but I just couldn’t listen to it. It was tinny and the stereo separation was really distracting. So a year or two ago I got the remastered album and it made a world of difference. The sound is clear, punchy and dynamic, but they didn’t go crazy with the compression and loudness either, so its opened that album up completely for me. I regret buying the first one but the remaster was money well spent. *

    What I don’t understand is the recent phenomenon of remastering 10-15 year old albums like Pulps Different Class and Teenage Riot, sort of an anniversary edition. I’ve read many times that the best sounding CDs you can buy are from the 90s, the technology had been perfected and compression was not overused. So why would they take a perfectly good sounding album from only ten years ago and reduce the quality with modern day standards? It costs money to do these repackagings, it just seems like a waste with perfectly good products already on the shelves.

    (*I’m not an audio techie, if there’s any out there in blogland I’ll stand corrected)

    Comment by Peter81
    28.
    August 23, 2008
    7:35 am

    If the volume control is numbered from 0 to 10, Daniel Lanois will find a way to turn the volume knob to 12.

    Comment by Paul
    29.
    August 29, 2008
    10:40 pm

    (just some of the news from atu2.com)

    July 6, 2008: As described in this Sunday Mirror article, Steve Lillywhite has reportedly told Irish DJ Tony Fenton that the new album is U2’s best ever.

    June 28, 2008: Somewhere around this date, U2 has finished recording the new album. Daniel Lanois told Le Journal de Montreal, “It’s going to be different in several ways, but I think it’s similar from one point of view, namely that it’s going to push the known limits in the sound arena, the way Achtung Baby did in the past.”

    June 4, 2008: Appearing on RTE radio, Daniel Lanois says the album should be finished in about 3-4 weeks. “We’re just finishing the vocals. Bono’s in great form, singing fantastic,” he says. Lanois adds this opinion of the album: “I think we can safely say it’s one of the great, innovative records from U2.”

    Comment by Paul
    30.
    October 9, 2008
    3:10 pm

    The Unforgettable Fire and Achtung Baby were the only times the band let go of their inhibitions (with Joshua Tree as an interesting middle part). After Achtung U2 tried too hard to out-do themselves (Pop, giant lemons, all that crap) and because it fell flat they decided to just go back the old routine: Chest beating, radio friendly arena rock. Which is a shame, because they can be interesting when they want to be…. As the man said here: Where has the adventure gone?

    Anyway, the 2009 Beatles remasters will be the big one…

    Comment by Martin
    31.
    October 24, 2008
    7:19 pm

    THE REASON ACHTUNG BABY IS SO DIFFERENT FROM EVERYTHING ELSE PUT OUT THERE BY U2 IS FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THEY DIDNT WRITE IT..I HEARD ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR RIP-OFF AS FAR BACK AS 1989…

    Comment by DARLA

    Leave a comment


    • (will not be published)


Search On The Record

 
Close
E-mail It