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  • 11 things I learned this weekend from three nights of Bruce

    May 26, 2008 @ 8:58 am | by Jim Carroll

    (1) I don’t think I’ve ever been at live shows in Ireland where the audience spanned every possible generation as much as they did over the last three nights in the RDS. From the gentleman who was proudly attending his 77th Bruce Springsteen show to the 18 year old kids singing along to every single word of “The Promised Land”, this was a show for all the family.

    (2) It was Friday night fever for me. Yes, I thought Thursday’s gig was fantastic (that version of “Thunder Road” was breathtaking) and Sunday’s show was epic (especially the encore which began with “Tenth Avenue Freezeout” and had “Ramrod” and “Glory Days” coming after usual show closer “American Land”, as if the band wanted the night to go on forever), but there was something about how the band rocked, how the sound was so punchy, how the set-list ran and how Bruce was on fire which made Friday the pick of the weekend. Maybe it was pay-day for the E Street Band - as well as for some of the working stiffs in the audience - and that explained the euphoria.

    (3) People now like to throw their kids at Bruce. For some reason, parents feel happy to lob their kids at Bruce in the hope that he will either kiss them or dance with them, as if he was running for public office. There was nearly a stampede in the pit every time Bruce appeared at either end of the runway as parents flung their kids at him, even though he now sometimes resembles Max Cady close-up. Sorry Bruce.

    (4) After Friday’s show, the E Street Band took over a bowling alley in Stillorgan for the night. True story.

    (5) There was a terrible rumour doing the rounds that Bono was going to do a guest turn on one of the nights. Thank our lucky stars that one turned out to be false. By the way, Southside Johnny, who turned up to share a mic on the first night, really is the dead spit of Steve Earle.

    (6) This really is how bands should do big open-air shows. No need for elaborate stage-sets, no point bothering with pyrotechnics, no call for choreographed dancing: all you need as a red-hot band, a singer giving his all and a set of fantastic songs that you really need two and a half hours to get through. I suppose the problem is that most acts don’t really have those three crucial elements.

    (7) After just a couple of months, “Livin’ In The Future” has already become a classic and not just because of its generous quota of “sha na na” moments. In fact, a lot of the new songs are bedding down well

    (8) The one dull spot of the whole weekend? That would be the truly terrible RTE TV documentary on Bruce which they aired (naturally) at silly o’clock on Friday night. While the interviews with Springsteen, done by pol corr David McCullough, were grand and dandy, the programme seemed to have been edited together by a couple of work experience numpties and looked shoddy, cheap and disjointed. But, hey, do we really expect anything else from RTE when it comes to music? They’ve become the station who prefer to put their time, money and effort into trying to hype a stupid glove puppet.

    (9) Watching Springsteen and co for three nights was a life-affirming joy. For all the shows and bands that I get to see and hear week in and week out, nothing beats watching these masters at work. I’m not really a fan of these big outdoor extravaganzas - give me a new band in a small room and I’m far happier - but Springsteen made the vast expanses of the RDS seem like a sweaty, loud room.

    (10) Bruce’s pole-dancing showed that perhaps Little Stevie was not the only one hanging out at the Bada Bing these last few years.

    (11) Anyone know if there are tickets left for the last European show in Barcelona’s Camp Nou on July 20?

  • 60 Comments »

    1.
    May 26, 2008
    9:27 am

    I learned that sound from the RDS travels all the way to my house in Rathmines which was a pleasant surpise to say the least. I went on the Thursday and was blown away. Proper music by proper musicians.

    Comment by Sean
    2.
    May 26, 2008
    10:00 am

    I’m still floating in rapture over the RDS after that setlist last night..Growin Up, Atlantic City, Rosalita……old songs sounding fresh and relevant- true marks of a classic. The best thing was Bruce and the guys looked as if they were enjoying it just as much as the crowd. Makes a nice change from the sulky faces of some of the newer (younger) bands out there! I’ve been getting a bit jaded at concerts recently, but the E. Street band have reaffirmed my faith in gigs, music.. hell in life itself! Dont hang up the guitars yet lads!

    Comment by Scottie
    3.
    May 26, 2008
    10:01 am

    Yeah, I must say the sound was superb. Even with my windows sealed with masking-tape, my ears jammed with plasticine and cushions stapled to my head, I was still able to hear Bruce extol the virtue of driving to places.

    Ah he’s not so bad. I respect the guy and some of his tunes are decent but seriously Jim, knock it on the head!

    Comment by Peter
    4.
    May 26, 2008
    10:02 am

    A personal highlight was when he played his greatest hit; ‘Summer of ‘69′.

    Comment by Brock Landers
    5.
    May 26, 2008
    10:06 am

    Brock and Peter - banned for life from this and every other Irish Times blog. Shane and I have instigated a hardline take-no-prisoners approach when it comes to anyone dissing Bruce.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    6.
    May 26, 2008
    10:09 am

    public enemy showed what it’s all about last night. ignoring the curfew at tripod. they just played and played and played. really great gig

    Comment by petee
    7.
    May 26, 2008
    10:20 am

    Fine. You can keep your stinking blogs. I’m going to set a Radiohead/ Morrissey appreciation one and you will not be invited to comment.

    Now, to force myself to like both “the head” and “morro” as I’m sure their current fans call them.

    Comment by Brock Landers
    8.
    May 26, 2008
    10:28 am

    got a last minute ticket for last night’s show. i can’t even begin to describe it. that was the third time i’ve seen him at the RDS - after tunnel of love and the human touch/lucky town tours and jfc it was so kick ass i think i’m going to cry. i was 15 at that 88 show so it was awesome seeing teenagers lose their collective shit last night.

    Comment by Q
    9.
    May 26, 2008
    10:28 am

    Brock - You could always call it “Mozhead”

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    10.
    May 26, 2008
    10:44 am

    4) As it happens I, for the first time in about 12 years went bowling on Friday. Arriving just before 8 we were told that we’d have to vacate the premises by 9 as someone had booked the entire place. We spent much of the hour discussing what sort of eccentric millionaire books Stillorgan Leisureplex for a night.

    Comment by Ian
    11.
    May 26, 2008
    10:49 am

    Incidentally. 3 nights. You asshole Carroll.

    Comment by Ian
    12.
    May 26, 2008
    10:54 am

    So true about these gigs.

    All this and more!

    Amazing stuff, brilliant vibe all around. I’m not usually one for the big outdoor gigs but these were special..

    Comment by MikeB
    13.
    May 26, 2008
    10:56 am

    I didn’t bother going to any of them but it didn’t stop me listening to all three gigs. For some strange reason I was able to hear it in my back garden all the way over in D7. Saved myself about €250.

    My wife went on Friday night and said it was like going to mass (except without the communion and transubstantiation). She said there was zero buzz from the crowd and that most had brought their knitting. This seems to conflict with your version of events Jim. Were you hob-nobbing with Larry Gogan in the VIP section?

    Also, on the Thursday Six One news on RTE they interviewed some people in Ceannt Station about the train strike. One of the interviewees was in a two-piece tweed suit and she was about seventy. She was ripping because she wouldn’t make it to Bruce. Is she indicative of the current Bruce demographic?

    Also, I was passing the RDS at about midday the other day and there were people already queueing to get in to Bruce. I reckoned that they were hoping to get up the front to emulate Courtney Cox’s moves from the Dancing in the Dark video. Did anyone get to dance in the dark with Bruce?

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    14.
    May 26, 2008
    11:04 am

    Ian - hey, YOU could have been bowling in his shoes

    mikeB - most outdoor shows rarely come close to what happened in the RDS over the last few nights

    matt - Your wife is WRONG, dude. Amazing atmosphere all three nights (and I was lucky enough to be in the pit each night). You sure she really went to the RDS? Maybe she went to Joe Satriani instead

    The crowd age make-up was all over the shop - from teens and tweens to 60somethings and everything inbetween. I tell you, if those teens who saw him don’t go off and form world-beating bands after that, the world is going to hell in a handcart

    Regarding Bruce’s dancecard, he danced with a 10 year old kid last night and a very happy Italian man on Friday night.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    15.
    May 26, 2008
    11:11 am

    The only way Friday night could have been a decent gig was if you were in the pit. The wind was throwing the sound everywhere which ruined it for me. Bruce was great as usual just a pitty about the venue. Belfast was much better.

    Comment by Soc
    16.
    May 26, 2008
    11:20 am

    “The only way Friday night could have been a decent gig was if you were in the pit. The wind was throwing the sound everywhere which ruined it for me. Bruce was great as usual just a pitty about the venue. Belfast was much better.”

    What wind on Friday? I was halfway back from the stage and it sounded amazing and I didn’t think the wind interfered with it. Totally fantastic show. Really, really wanted to go again on Sunday but couldn’t get a ticket. First time seeing Springsteen and I’d happily go to see him and that band again and again and again.

    Comment by Sinead
    17.
    May 26, 2008
    11:23 am

    What Sinead said. Friday’s show was faultless - amazing sound too. I was in the stands and it was just mad to see everyone giving it loads from the start. Matt Vinyl’s wife must have told him she was at Bruce and was, well, elsewhere.

    What are the chances he’ll be back again? Maybe when the Point re-opens?

    Comment by Mossy
    18.
    May 26, 2008
    11:30 am

    Forget the teens Jimbo, where I was on Thursday there were loads of dads with 7 year olds with them. They may have ruined the kids for all other gigs.

    Comment by Ian
    19.
    May 26, 2008
    11:44 am

    Was there the three nights as well and the same thing Jim, thought Friday was the best. Thursday was the weakest but still excellent. Last night was ruined a bit for me by a terrible section of people in the pit. Didn’t care at all about the music until the encores. Highlights of the weekend : Prove It, Because The Night, Rosalita, Thunder Road, Tenth Avenue, Glory Days, American Land, Candy’s Room and Jungleland. Mary’s place was also brilliant for a song i’ve never really liked

    Comment by Neil
    20.
    May 26, 2008
    11:49 am

    Soc - I agree with Sinead and Mossy and Neil, Friday was the one. I really didn’t notice any sound problems caused by wind, even last night

    Mossy - Maybe we should start that rumour about Bruce in the Point….

    Ian - 7 year olds? Pah! Past it. There was a 2 year old kid having the time of his life last night.

    Neil - I agree, last night’s pit was definitely fuller than Fri or Thur and there were far more assholes. I suppose they had all day to drink themselves stupid.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    21.
    May 26, 2008
    12:08 pm

    I suppose they had all day to drink themselves stupid.

    Limited drinking time didn’t seem to perturb the moron on Thursday who whipped his cock out and pissed into a beer glass behind me. It then took his mates the best part of a minute to talk him out of flinging it up into the air and put it on the ground.

    Comment by Ian
    22.
    May 26, 2008
    12:11 pm

    I was there Friday night too. Absolutely stunning - Night, She’s The One, Trapped, Prove It All Night, Long Walk Home, Jungleland…I’m actually slightly depressed because I know that none of the other gigs I see this summer are going to compare

    Comment by radical cleric
    23.
    May 26, 2008
    12:15 pm

    Kinda have to agree with 13 and 15. I was there on thursday, reasonably near the front, and it definitely could have been louder. Don’t get me wrong Bruce rocked, but when he sang The River it was far too easily drowned out by a couple of gobshites up from Laois for the day having an old chat about how expensive Dublin is and yelping “Fucking g’wan Brucie!” at any opportune moment. The pit was obviously the place to be.
    On the plus side, my mum came with me and rubbed my back when it got sore, so that was nice.

    Comment by Andrew
    24.
    May 26, 2008
    12:25 pm

    I must’ve hit it lucky in the pit last night. I was 6 rows back, left of centre and was great to enjoy a gig surrounded by total die hard fans who knew every word to every song. It reaffirmed my faith in the concert going public seeing people actually going to a concert for the music not to get smashed drunk.

    Comment by Scottie
    25.
    May 26, 2008
    1:07 pm

    Right, I’ll have to quiz the wife some more about her whereabouts on Friday night. Things aren’t adding up.

    However, I must question your journalistic objectivity on this one. I would suggest that anyone who goes to the same artist three times in four days must be somewhat obsessed by Bruce in the first place. Would this be a fair comment?

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    26.
    May 26, 2008
    1:45 pm

    Matt - when it comes to Bruce, I am a fanboy with a typewriter, a fact which has been well signalled here and elsewhere. No objectivity whatsoever.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    27.
    May 26, 2008
    1:52 pm

    Seeing ‘Thunder road’ live made me enormously happy! This is what live music is supposed to be like.

    And still no picture of his beeeeeeeehind…

    Comment by Liz
    28.
    May 26, 2008
    1:53 pm

    Bruce is to music what The Wire is to TV on this blog and it’s totally awesome.

    Comment by Q
    29.
    May 26, 2008
    2:31 pm

    Jim - Bruce Springsteen is just an Arcade Fire rip-off ;)

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    30.
    May 26, 2008
    2:40 pm

    So first prize one night of Bruce springsteen.
    Second prize two nights of springsteen.
    Third prize three nights.

    Same folk who blog about high ticket prices can afford three overpriced nights of Brucie or were all the tickets free to those in the know.

    Now my favourite is the streets of Philadelphia by a long shot or Born in the USA a close second.

    Comment by cj
    31.
    May 26, 2008
    2:42 pm

    Matt- Bon Jovi rip off more like.

    Comment by Brock Landers
    32.
    May 26, 2008
    2:43 pm

    Cormac - I take it from that spot of venting that you didn’t get a ticket. Or ever got a freebie for any show because you work in the industry? Pity, you’d have enjoyed Bruce. Great lights.

    Brock - you’re still barred

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    33.
    May 26, 2008
    3:17 pm

    I was at Sunday night’s show. Living In The Future was amazingly good, wasn’t expecting that at all.
    He also played Rosalita, the one song that HAD to be played. If he played Thunder Road the show would’ve been perfect.

    Comment by B'dum B'dum
    34.
    May 26, 2008
    4:09 pm

    Wrote up a review for my blog, calculated he played 43 different songs over the three nights(open to correction). Not a bad return when he clearly wants to play certain songs like the 5 pack which ended the main show two nights before it became 4 last night. Whatever room he had to change the songs he used.

    Comment by Neil
    35.
    May 26, 2008
    4:11 pm

    Thursdy and Sunday. My first time at boss gig even though I’ve been a fan since I could listen to music. I was blown away. Emotional still even thinking about it Badlands and Rosalita on Sunday were tear inducing moments. Best gig I was ever at. Would go again and again…. and even though he is 58, he’s H-O-T hot and yes, I so would….

    Comment by Maria
    36.
    May 26, 2008
    5:42 pm

    Took a straw poll amongst some workmates this afternoon. All went on Friday. All reaffirmed the view that my wife provided about the gig. Divorce proceedings have been stalled as a result of this latest info.

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    37.
    May 26, 2008
    6:39 pm

    Matt - They must be some crowd of bankers to think that

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    38.
    May 26, 2008
    7:08 pm

    Saw him in slane a long time ago before he turned the page and became cool again.
    As i said 3 nights and a high ticket price is not a problem for a few on this blog.
    I thought it was all about bruce and not the show or pyrotechnics?

    Comment by cj
    39.
    May 27, 2008
    12:58 am

    I was in the pit thursday and sunday.No comparison between the two crowds. Die hard fans were there on sunday night (with a fair sprinkling of lookers-on, to be fair) to the left of the centre stage. The stage set up on sunday had three ramps for bruce to get closer to us and I think this was a factor in stirring up the atmosphere.
    Only regret about sunday is that we missed out on Trapped and Jungleland, but he was awesome and i’m so happy to have been part of it. On the other hand a friend who was in the stand said that both the sound and big screen were excellent but there was very little excitement in the crowd until the encores.
    Lesson one: only place to be for a bruce gig is in the pit!

    Comment by Claire
    40.
    May 27, 2008
    9:54 am

    “Matt - They must be some crowd of bankers to think that”

    A wunch of bankers is the correct term I believe!

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    41.
    May 27, 2008
    10:32 am

    “I was still able to hear Bruce extol the virtue of driving to places.”

    One of the funniest things I’ve read on this blog, or any other :D

    Suppose that’s me banned now, too.. ;)

    Comment by Lauren
    42.
    May 27, 2008
    11:18 am

    I was in the stands Thursday and Sunday and in the Pit on Friday. I thought on Friday that show was going to be the highlight. Bue the setlist on Sunday, (Sandy, Growin Up, Spirit, Rosie) was very special. It just looked like Bruce didn’t want to stop.

    I am now in my usual post Bruce concert downer. Off to check flights to Barcelona. See you there Jim?

    Comment by brendan, belfast
    43.
    May 27, 2008
    11:23 am

    I never thought I’d be jealous of my mother touching the stitching of a 58 year old man’s jeans, but her getting into the pit the night I didn’t go and clutching at Bruce’s boots made me puce with envy.

    Playing nigh-on all of Darkness on Thursday was seriously special, given it’s my favourite album. Headwrecker I didn’t get to see Growing Up though…

    Comment by Dan
    44.
    May 27, 2008
    1:56 pm

    Well I am just wondering how the 5 biddies slept after the concert on sunday nite. They must have been just exhausted having spent the entire concert bitching…………. about the fact that my husband and I had our 3 kids 8,10 and 12 at the concert. No we we’nt high on drugs or in a drunken state but well capable of looking after our 3 kids and wanted to give them the experience of attending a live springsteen concert(they are big fans). So back to the 5 biddies, all single- I wonder why!!!! the reason I did’nt engage with them on the nite was so as not to put a damper on it for the rest of my family but in future MYOB!!! As regular concert goers and 4th time to see Springsteen we have thanfully met the likes.

    Comment by oonagh
    45.
    May 27, 2008
    2:11 pm

    lauren - yep, you’re banned too. I must say, I’m enjoying this spot of dictatorship.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    46.
    May 27, 2008
    2:19 pm

    Gotta tell ya, was at the gig on Friday night not a huge fand but was well impressed. Great gig by all accounts BUT from where I was sitting I have to agree the crowd took a good 90 minutes to get going. I haven’t a clue what was going on with them, seemed like half the crowd didn’t even want to be there. If you were in the pit that was the only place I saw that rocked all night long

    Comment by Maniso
    47.
    May 27, 2008
    2:30 pm

    Oonagh, out of interest, what were they saying? I saw a good few kids at the concert, some much younger than 8. I couldn’t help thinking that it was a long gig to bring kids to, but surely as long as they enjoyed themselves there was no issue?

    As regards, the Boss - fantastic. Went on Thursday and had to go back on Sunday for more. Blew me away completely, best gig(s) I was ever at!

    Comment by Anne-Marie
    48.
    May 27, 2008
    2:38 pm

    Just read no 44 and wonder if it should it be compulsory for all kids to go to Springsteen concerts? Get them onto the good stuff before they get contaminated with Westlife and the like..

    Comment by Scottie
    49.
    May 27, 2008
    4:09 pm

    They’ll still get the Westlife disease wont they though Scottie?

    Comment by B'dum B'dum
    50.
    May 27, 2008
    4:36 pm

    Went to Sunday nights gig with my wife Ann,(we missed seeing the band in Slane all those yearts ago as it was our wedding day). I have to say the highlights were Promised Land, Badlands, Rosalita, Dancing in the Dark and the rest was brilliant as well. Couldn’t sleep on Sunday night, just too much music still ringing in my ears

    Comment by Brian Carolan
    51.
    May 27, 2008
    4:52 pm

    Well basically anne-marie that we were a disgrace and that we had no regard for our kids!!, the children were in danger!! ect,ect. They did’nt have an issue with the length of time and thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes Scottie our sentiments exactly! Agree with no 16 Belfast’s Segar Sessions was far better. Tom Waits next stop (without the kids)

    Comment by oonagh
    52.
    May 27, 2008
    5:02 pm

    Yeah, thats the way to do it. Force your kids to like music you were listening to back in the 80’s. Once they hit those awkward teenage years they’ll politely thank you for introducing them to ‘Tunnel of Love’ at such a crucial time in their lives and you’ll sit back and smugly wish your own parents had Bruce when you were a nipper.

    Comment by Peter
    53.
    May 27, 2008
    5:23 pm

    “Just read no 44 and wonder if it should it be compulsory for all kids to go to Springsteen concerts?”

    Music is a very personal experience. Your children should listen to the music that they themselves like. Don’t force feed them your tastes. One man’s meat is anothers poison and all that. Unfortunately people’s vanity dictates that because they think something is good then other people, including their children, should also think its good. That’s not a good introduction to music by any means. However that kind of carry on is in the ha’penny place when you see parents inflicting their support of a particular sporting team on their children. Those cars that you see with stickers saying something like ‘Man Utd Baby’ or ‘Munster Baby on Board’. WTF? What kind of sap puts that on their car?

    On a personal note my seven year old is currently liking The Pigeon Detectives and the five year old is still digging Shakira. The 4 year old and zero year old aren’t expressing a preference at the moment. I hope they don’t start to like Tom Waits, I’ll have to remortgage the gaff!

    Comment by Matt Vinyl
    54.
    May 28, 2008
    12:45 pm

    Put the mp3 of Racing In The Street from Sunday up on my blog if anybody’s interested. It’s an excellent recording

    Comment by Neil
    55.
    May 28, 2008
    9:21 pm

    Incredibly jealous of you Jim ..all three shows.We were there on Thursday night in the pit (thanks Bren) and brought our two small boys…The smallest boy had been waiting (im)patiently for five years to see the E-Street band live and we were completely blown away.
    I saw Bruce in Slane as a twelve year old (on the lam) and have seen him each time he’s played in Ireland.It was my husbands first time seeing the E-street band..he loved it and as for the children..I had no urge to toss one in Bruce’s general direction..I was too busy watching them ‘get it’.The smallest boy was a little daunted by the crowd,(I’m sure being so close to ‘The Boss’ was something like seeing Santa in your loo on Christmas eve) even in the pit but before I could ask him if he was okay his legs started moving, followed by his arms and he danced for the entire three hours on the way home I asked him If he needed to use the bathroom to which he replied ‘he sand Thunder Road’..Magic indeed.

    Comment by Isitjust me?
    56.
    May 28, 2008
    9:43 pm

    Isitjustme - Good to see some parents were restrained from chucking their offspring at Bruce. On Fri, he went to dance with one of the kids but the kid just wouldnt move so Bruce moved on instead to a v happy Italian man quipping “I now scare small children” as he went.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    57.
    May 29, 2008
    12:02 am

    The funn thing is..You and I met years ago (I was the younger sister of a friend of yours) and with my being the awkward younger sister, we never got to discuss how much we loved those early albums.

    Comment by Isitjust me?
    58.
    May 29, 2008
    8:42 am

    isitjustme - It never fails to amaze me how much this blog revisits my past! Lets consider this thread and all the other Bruce threads payback for that lack of discussion years ago.

    Comment by Jim Carroll
    59.
    May 31, 2008
    12:40 pm

    Was there all 3 nights, thought Sunday definitely the best, near shat myself when he broke into racing in the streets. Definitely think crowd was a factor. We were pretty far back second night, and there was no atmosphere, lots of people with arms folded. Obvious most of those around us never go to gigs. Thought it was really arrogant, though, their attitude was, payed my 80 euro, entertain me. That’s what comes about from pricy tickets - crowd full of rich wankers. And listen, if you tie sleeves of your jumper around your shoulders, you shouldn’t be at a rock gig.

    Comment by Bar
    60.
    July 31, 2008
    6:14 pm

    I know it’s well late for this comment but I was in the pit Thusday and friday night and the friday show was one of the best Bruce shows ever (That was my 15th show since ‘81).Sound was great and better paced than Thursday night which was by no means a slouch. Trapped and Jungleland were so inspired that the morons from west Cork beside us stopped their nattering boy! for the duration.
    Bruce and the band are on the top of their game right now and have to be seen to see what a great rock band is all about. No bullshit, respect and love for their fans and a back catologue so great that every show is a magical experience. Ban and flog the unbelievers!

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