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  • irishtimes.com - Posted: March 11, 2010 @ 5:41 pm

    Yes, we’ll soon be charging for the newspaper online. No, we’re not charging for content

    Hugh Linehan

    Next Thursday (March 18th) we will replace the Today’s Paper page on irishtimes.com with the epaper, which replicates online the experience of reading The Irish Times newspaper. For the next two weeks you can use the epaper on free trial.  In my humble opinion, it’s a pretty nifty service, particularly for those of our users whose primary goal is to find out what’s in the paper.
     So does this mean we’re now charging for content? No. Although we do already charge users for using certain services – archive and crosswords, for example – there is no change in the range of content which is free to access on the site.

     However, as has been noted here before, some of the world’s largest media organisations, including News International and the New York Times, are planning to charge for their content in the near future. Like the Skibbereen Eagle and the Tsar, we’ll continue to keep a beady eye on this and will make our own strategic decisions accordingly at the right time.
     What we are doing now, though, is charging for the experience of reading the newspaper. If you want to know exactly what articles were published and where in The Irish Times on a given day, the epaper provides that service (at, as we like to say, a very reasonable price).

     This forms part of a broader strategy on our part to differentiate between the newspaper and the site. You can see that strategy in developments like the Life, Culture and Society sections launched last year, where we moved away from replicating the sections and supplements of the newspaper towards a thematic grouping of content more suitable for online users. It makes more sense for the user, and it also serves to get away from any perception that irishtimes.com is simply ‘The Irish Times on the web – for free’.

  • 70 Comments »

    1.
    March 11, 2010
    6:20 pm

    Best of luck with it, seems like an interesting project.
    Personally not sure if I’ll use it though as I tend to prefer the real this or the latest news.

    Comment by Robert Kiernan
    2.
    March 11, 2010
    6:31 pm

    Best of luck indeed, but other news media outlets have tried paid subscription before with little success.
    http://www.observer.com/2010/media/after-three-months-only-35-subscriptions-newsdays-web-site

    Comment by slatz22
    3.
    March 11, 2010
    6:48 pm

    Tough choice to be made – newspaper revenues are falling, but will people look elsewhere for free content? Personally, I think I’ll subscribe, because it’s the only quality Irish newspaper out there. What I’d like to see is an IT app for the iPhone. Any sign of that coming along?

    Good luck with that. Hope it works out for you.

    Comment by mapman
    4.
    March 11, 2010
    7:07 pm

    An iPhone app would be very welcome indeed!

    Comment by Michael
    5.
    March 11, 2010
    7:17 pm

    so harder to find the hard news and more fluff,consmer lifesyle and egotistical pundits?

    Comment by steve white
    6.
    March 11, 2010
    7:44 pm

    I am looking forward to buying my iPad very soon and I would be more than willing to pay for the Irish Times if it were available for this form factor. I think that good journalism (which is usually evident from the Irish Times) is well worth paying for. However to convince other you are going to have to supply more than just a transcribed version of an online edition. Headlines and short RSS feeds should be available online for free. But a full, complete end-to-end product that I can start and finish is worth paying for.

    Comment by Ciaran
    7.
    March 11, 2010
    10:01 pm

    Steve@5 Not necessarily. Unless you think the hard news is all on the current Today’s Paper index. All the news content from that list is still there in such fluffy, consumer categories as ‘Ireland’, ‘World’ and ‘Business’, which are hardly buried.

    Comment by Hugh Linehan
    8.
    March 11, 2010
    10:25 pm

    Will more people buy the paper now and less visit the website without an increase in hardcopy sales?

    Comment by John Malone.
    9.
    March 11, 2010
    10:33 pm

    Good luck with it. Good journalism costs money and I personally would rather pay for quality than get lowest common denominator dross for free, which is the logical ultimate end-point for newspapers online.

    Still I have to say that trying to work out if a familiar column is going to be hiding in the ‘Life’, ‘Society’ or ‘Culture’ sections is usually a bit of a scavenger hunt.

    Comment by dealga
    10.
    March 12, 2010
    10:45 am

    I’m not thrilled to hear more of the paper will be hard to read – the culture, life and society sections leave me wondering every week where the columns I want to read are, and I’m never sure if I’ve see the whole thing. As someone who doesn’t buy newspapers from a green perspective, this doesn’t sound like a good move.

    Comment by CB
    11.
    March 12, 2010
    12:32 pm

    So, from March 18 a payment/subscription will allow a user read the e ‘newspaper’, but the same content will be available free but formatted differently under irishtimes.com’s section headings?

    Comment by Ted
    12.
    March 12, 2010
    12:33 pm

    Looks like the old argument about cannibalism in the print/online media is raising its head again. The advertiser supported model is good for a high traffic site but with a print publication supplying the content, it can have people switching to the online version. It will be very interesting to see if this new model works as a value added service. The initial move to a subscription model by the IT was badly timed. This one seems to have had more thought put into it.

    Comment by John McCormac
    13.
    March 12, 2010
    2:00 pm

    This may seem like a small change, but personally I think this seemingly inconspicuous blog post and what it says basically shows us that newspapers are at the tipping point. If these moves go well, newspapers as organisations will survive, if not, who knows.

    Aside from that, I loved the reference to the Skibereen Eagle, although, should it now be called the Southern Star and the Tzar?

    Comment by Stone Throwing Youths
    14.
    March 12, 2010
    2:07 pm

    Will the supplements also be available in ereader form?

    I’m particularly interested in the Ticket.

    Comment by Sean Brody
    15.
    March 12, 2010
    5:10 pm

    Sean – yes, all supplements are there

    Ted – yes, precisely

    CB abd Dealga – I acknowledge the finding columns problem, which needs to be addressed as part of an overhaul of our Comment/Opinion section – it’s just not up to scratch at the moment

    Comment by Hugh Linehan
    16.
    March 12, 2010
    5:20 pm

    basically you are now charging for something which was free

    my prediction is that revenue will be minimal especially after paying the 3rd party to host

    Comment by fergus
    17.
    March 12, 2010
    5:34 pm

    How is this any different to the “Digital Edition” that was always available?

    Wasn’t there a charge for that too?

    Comment by Tomas Finneran
    18.
    March 12, 2010
    5:39 pm

    I subscribe to the Irish Times on Kindle. Will I also be charged to avail of this service?

    Comment by Denise
    19.
    March 12, 2010
    6:43 pm

    Fergus@16: Actually we’re now charging a good deal less for something, which as Tomas @17 points out, was previously available under a different name.

    Denise@18: I’m afraid it’s a separate service from the Kindle and therefore priced separately.

    Comment by Hugh Linehan
    20.
    March 13, 2010
    10:09 am

    I have been subscribing to the IT for years and the last time I paid in April, it went free in June and you advised me that my fee would be taken into account for the crossword. Last year I paid for the crossword and now you are expecting me to pay the full fee again!!!……

    I have tested out the new e-paper and they won’t le me read it nor will they accept my subscriber’s login!…

    Congratulations for confusing us all…..

    Comment by Maureen
    21.
    March 13, 2010
    10:20 am

    I tend to read the Irish Times on my mobile (HTC Hero using Google’s Android Operating System). Given that Android looks set to overtake I-Phone on both phones and tablets, an Android app for the IT would be welcome. Ideally this would download the whole paper at home on fixed line Broadband for browsing later on the move, avoiding the need to use one’s precious mobile broadband download quota. I would pay for this app, but I will never buy any printed papers.

    Comment by Brian
    22.
    March 13, 2010
    10:49 am

    I usually enjoy reading the irish Times online, but slowly, slowly the anti-clerical bias is becoming too much for me; too many journalists with axes to grind. So no, I will not be subscribing.

    Comment by mos
    23.
    March 13, 2010
    12:18 pm

    ‘Given that Android looks set to overtake I-Phone’ (umm, iPhone actually)’. Yeah right! The Nexus one (Googles handset) in the US did 20,000 sales in the first week. Compare that to the 1.56 million iPhone 3GS sales in the first week of its launch. At the moment I just can’t see the Android overtaking the iPhone. Plus, try buying a Nexus One in Ireland, you can’t. Also, where are the apps? So far over 15,000 apps have been developed for the iPad, a device that’s not even available yet. By all accounts, the consumer wants the iPhone and iPad.

    As for the epaper product, I like it. It’s another way to consume news, especially for the Irish diaspora when they want the IT in their hands and yet it’s not available. We need to embrace these emerging technologies, as the last 15 years have proved, the internet is not a fad and will go away. Further more, as the technology evolves, so will the vectors that deliver news.

    Finally, it always amuses me that the notion, ‘oh its on the web, it must be free’. You don’t walk into in newsagent, pick up the paper and walk out without paying. Just because the news via online services isn’t tangible, like a printed newspaper, doesn’t mean it should be for free. Eventually online news will overtake printed news: wages for online editors need to be paid, as do the journalists that bring us the news. Subscription services will have to embraced eventually.

    Comment by Chris Carpenter
    24.
    March 13, 2010
    2:07 pm

    It’s an interesting development, and doubtless you’ll be monitoring who’s reading which version, where, and how. I take it there will now, in effect, be three versions – hard copy, epaper, and irishtimes.com, and umpteen methods of delivery of the latter two.

    I hope you can manage to offer the ‘paper’ electronically at a cost that’s competitive with the hard copy – since, presumably, the newsagent gets a whack of that and you have no physical production/distribution costs.

    The fear must be that you may lose hard copy buyers in your core market, but maybe you’ve seen and calculated that loss already.

    As a consumer, who would have an eight mile round trip in a car to buy the hard copy, the issue price will have a bearing on the frequency of purchase.

    The model I’d hope to see would be a customer account (off debit card) with a per issue price, and a discount kicking in as more and more issues are purchased over the course of a twelve month cycle.

    Best of luck with it.

    Comment by Ted
    25.
    March 13, 2010
    2:36 pm

    I meant to say also that while the opportunity exists to attract new paying readers who do not/cannot buy the hard copy, I worry that pricing will be based on a calculation of the numbers of existing purchasers likely to substitute the epaper for the hard copy.

    Comment by Ted
    26.
    March 13, 2010
    5:35 pm

    I agree with mos@22. Count me out.
    Brian P O Cinneide

    Comment by Brian O Cinneide
    27.
    March 13, 2010
    7:12 pm

    Pity – us from the 3rd world countries (as in Africa) cannot afford your subscriptions translated into our local currencies – and we suffer from being alienated from 1st wordl news and views of the world, modern thinking, etc. as our local news are totally parochial and viewed through 3rd world specs! Talk about one sided!! But so we lose again… So enjoyed your paper. Thank you.

    Comment by Elzane
    28.
    March 13, 2010
    9:11 pm

    Hmmm! We’ll just wait and see I suppose although not all of us have a great deal of time to sit in front of the computer to read the Irish Times – we’re not all employed in jobs where we have little else to do! I use the site for a quick glance and won’t be paying a subscription to do so! Don’t think its a clever move.

    Comment by rude-Junius
    29.
    March 14, 2010
    1:00 am

    Why can the headlines on the contents of ‘today’s paper’ not be accompanied by journalists’ by-lines?

    Comment by crocodile
    30.
    March 14, 2010
    11:44 am

    I’m not sure that I quote get this.

    As I understand it, the new epaper will be available in addition to the current content and formatting? No? Yes?

    If sois, I can’t imagine that there will be much of a take-up on the epaper.

    Maybe I’m wrong.

    Comment by europhile
    31.
    March 14, 2010
    9:48 pm

    Empathise with sentiments expressed @22 and @26.
    Journalists are admired for their analytical prowess and erudition; and everyone has a strong opinion about something or other but this relentless obvious agenda-driven journalism in the Opinion section of the Irish Times newspaper is really becoming, to say the least, unpleasant — off-putting in fact — which is not to say that there are no exceptions. I notice, also (when one could be bothered to take a look) that very few comments are posted underneath a column these days (in the online version). Much more interesting now is Irishtimes.com blogs — especially, “Mechanical Turk”, “Screenwriter”, “Politics” and many others — this is where quality, balanced, informative, engaging (and often very entertaining) journalism can be found at present, in my opinion — (yes and so much the better when one of these guys can also be found on the Irish Times ‘mainland’ — but what a long way to have to go to find them!). I think when all the data is analysed (with regard to what people are engaging with in the IT) and the stats begin to show what’s what, it will become clear that the editor of Irishtimes.com (MT) and his Blog colleagues (Columnists? Blogists? Same difference) are the future for the Irish Times — and of course, salaries are going to have to be amended accordingly. Hmmm … now what to do with that old crew from the paper?

    Comment by Josephine
    32.
    March 15, 2010
    9:36 am

    ‘The Irish Times on the web for free’ is the only reason you are anywhere as successful as you have been in this medium since you decided to open up to the Internet a few years ago.

    The niftiest feature you can ever imagine for a newspaper is to get the full printed edition on one page of article headings, and above all, in unencumbered text format so that search engines pick it up.

    After march 18, I am heading on to ‘Day in a Page’, available from:

    http://www.independent.ie/day-in-page/

    Comment by webuser
    33.
    March 15, 2010
    10:59 am

    webuser@32: hope you enjoy it

    Comment by Hugh Linehan
    34.
    March 15, 2010
    1:13 pm

    I think this brings into focus the essential nature and value of the print format in communicating the news of the moment: allocation of position and space (print wins), and timeliness (web wins). For my part, I have given up on trying to figure out what is new in print version features coverage (life, culture, art, whatever). Ireland, Business and Sports are just about manageable (i.e. scroll down to the untimed items). Still don’t think IT has cracked that indispensable web format model and hope it does so before the print format becomes little more than a pricey comfort blanket (which is what the NYT printed version has become, at least for me, at $2.

    Comment by Denis Bergin
    35.
    March 15, 2010
    3:15 pm

    thanks for the memories Bye.

    Comment by kevin wods
    36.
    March 15, 2010
    5:50 pm

    On another not unrelated matter – I joined the readers panel over a month ago. When might I expect to answer some surveys?

    Comment by Des FitzGerald
    37.
    March 16, 2010
    10:06 am

    It will not change how I read the paper..usually online, and if I want to read the printed edition I’ll buy it.

    I would however pay for an Android app as a previous poster suggested that allowed me to download todays paper while at home and read it while on the move. Having recently moved over to a Samsung Android phone..I imagine this is how I would like to read an electronic version of the paper

    Comment by Bobzee
    38.
    March 16, 2010
    2:24 pm

    I was surveyed recently by a competitor newspaper, and I indicated that I would be willing to pay something for privilege of reading paper online, as I live in USA. I understand difficulties of print media staying in business (unlike misunderstanding by some segments of population of difficulties of Ireland Inc. staying afloat). I hope I will be able to access Letters, and Analysis columns at the very least.
    It is an historical time in Irish history there – 100 years on from 1916 – and I am fascinated to watch events unfold.

    Comment by Aoife Sullivan
    39.
    March 17, 2010
    12:07 pm

    “for a price ugati,for a price”
    take a look at the u.k. indo -that is how you run a website for a paper -except they allow no comment on the hottest articles.
    irish times is ultra conservative re participation -put the comments with the articles !!!! all the articles !!!

    Comment by phrage frenta
    40.
    March 17, 2010
    4:22 pm

    @39 phrage frenta
    Too many cooks spoil the consommé
    Too many comments spoil the consonancy
    IT website should retain its own creative independence and develop organically — not slavishly ride in the online slipstream of a u.k. broadsheet.

    Comment by stock cube
    41.
    March 17, 2010
    4:54 pm

    Well there’s no money coming in from ads in the “Property Times”, so i guess you have to make your money somewhere.

    Comment by the irish corbusier
    42.
    March 18, 2010
    1:15 pm

    The argument about the ‘other’ sites that charge for content does not wash. There are enough free sites out there that you just don’t need to subscribe to any site for news.
    Just as I did the last time the IT charged for content, it’s back to the Indo online for me.

    Comment by Pete_ski
    43.
    March 18, 2010
    2:40 pm

    This is a really annoying development. You could at least have warned us properly!

    Comment by Ciara
    44.
    March 18, 2010
    9:58 pm

    At some stage will someone simplify the options for lesser mortals such as myself who use the IT website as a quick option on days when we can’t get a printed copy? Or who scan the headlines and breaking news in order to decide whether or not to buy a printed copy? How is an occasional reader (eg when out of the country) to know what to do and how to do it? In other words, will someone please make this clearer, soon?

    On the other hand, anything that helps the IT to survive with its independence unscathed is a Very Good Thing.

    At another level, this is also the e-reader versus printed books debate. Despite all its usefulness, planet-saving properties and all the rest, you can’t rattle an online version at your partner over the breakfast table…It’s a whole other experience, and surely there’s still room for real life as well as virtual existence.

    At another level, this is like the

    Comment by celebrate
    45.
    March 19, 2010
    5:59 am

    The IT will be backing away from this within the year. Business papers have managed to charge for content but thats it so far. The NYT might succeed but they have an audience of many tens of millions and they have recently introduced regional news sections to consolidate their national appeal. Yet it is seen as a real risk for them to charge. The IT online edition competes directly with the indo and The Guardian, both are superior web experiences and while the Times has better writing than the indo there is little difference in the quality of the journalism. I give it 6 months.

    Comment by seamus
    46.
    March 19, 2010
    9:59 am

    Am I alone in finding the epaper really tedious to read? And when I tried to send a link to Facebook, instead I created a bookmark…

    Comment by Ida
    47.
    March 19, 2010
    10:26 am

    Sorry to be such a luddite but could somebody please explain to me how to find all actual content from today’s paper without using the epaper. I’m not talking about breaking news, blogs or whatever, just content from today’s paper. Many thanks.

    Comment by europhile
    48.
    March 19, 2010
    3:21 pm

    This is an exercise in futility and a retrograde step. I suggest you start building an iPhone & iPad App if you want to generate revenue.

    Comment by Hugh O'Carroll
    49.
    March 19, 2010
    7:26 pm

    Basically this is just charging people for a content in one format that’s free in a different format. Really does sound like a laughably bad idea. Expect it to me dropped in a few months, when revenues prove to be minimal.

    Comment by Rhiannon
    50.
    March 19, 2010
    7:41 pm

    Ask yourself, why would anybody want to PAY to read the Irish Times online? Your readers either live in Ireland and you buy the print version, or live abroad and aren’t interested in the full paper.

    Seriously, Hugh, you need to produce content worth paying for before you slap on this Ryanair-style “optional extra”

    Look at online newspapers like the Huff Post for a successful model people want to read – hard-hitting opinion articles and interesting world news coverage.

    Biggest improvement needed – get rid of those awful editorials which sit on the fence and tell us nothing. I want a newspaper that has a strong voice of its own.

    Comment by Enda Murphy
    51.
    March 19, 2010
    9:59 pm

    So to much hulabuloo u launch the ‘Free Irish Times online!’ a few months ago, and then, meekly, you decide to revert back to paying again.

    I was pretty p****ed off to be honest – just the way I logged in for a read and realised I had to pay. Slyly done!

    Ok, ur initial strategy obviously backfired, but I don’t think this shifting and changing is doing ur credibility/ reputation any good.

    Comment by C Harris
    52.
    March 19, 2010
    11:17 pm

    Mnnnnn….people can get annoyed when freebies are confusingly rearranged to try to extract money. I suspect Linehan’s heart is not in this – but like all newspapermen he is facing an appaling vista – so I feel some sympathy. I will be amazed if it works out in financial terms. I think most IT writers are mediocre – the exceptions being Charlie Fell, Laura Marlowe, Michael Casey, Garret Fitzgerald. But would I pay to read them? Maybe 5c a piece if you could find a way to handle micro-payments.

    Comment by Brian Lillis
    53.
    March 20, 2010
    8:40 am

    Nah, not for me, was good while it lasted. Slàn

    Comment by Eddie Collins
    54.
    March 20, 2010
    11:18 am

    @52
    What is Mnnnnn… please?
    Did you mean Hmmmmm …?
    @ 53
    Slàn????? Surely you mean SLÁN
    This is a grave mistake. French grave, Irish fada.

    Comment by minutiae matter
    55.
    March 20, 2010
    1:03 pm

    Thanks for the ‘free’ read – i’m off to the ‘Indo’ – Good luck with the ’subscription’ editions…!!

    Comment by Tom (Sydney)
    56.
    March 20, 2010
    3:58 pm

    I live abroad and visit the IT website every day to keep up with what’s happening at home. Just tried the epaper for the first time. It’s nice if you have lots of time and a big computer screen, but found it quite frustrating due to misclicks, difficulty of navigation on a small laptop screen and the time it takes for pages to download, articles to enlarge etc. My old habit was to take 10 minutes on a weekday morning in the office to scan through the “today’s paper” section and see if there was anything new and interesting in that day’s edition. Looks to me like it would take about 30mins just to scan through the epaper version. Might be nice to do at the weekend but won’t have time for that on an average weekday morning. Will miss the “today’s paper” section.

    Comment by Luxman
    57.
    March 21, 2010
    4:54 pm

    I didn’t get a chance to get to the shops to buy the newspaper yesterday, as I usually do, and so I tried to read this epaper crap. It’s still stuck on Friday (today is Sunday) and the controls are pure clunky and not at all suited to how you would read on the web. Wait to piss off your readership.

    This new venture shows a complete lack of understanding of how the internet works. By restricting content, the decline in the readership is exponential, the extra revenues will be marginal compared to how much advertising revenues will be able to command when advertisers realise that the internet is the primary place people go for their news nowadays, and you annoy those that both buy your newspaper regularly and use your website consistently.

    I fell that this venture is a backward step and is ultimately doomed. If you want more revenue tell your advertisers that you are charging more.

    Comment by Seán B
    58.
    March 21, 2010
    9:10 pm

    I liked the “today’s paper” presentation. It was easy to read and I logical the way it linked back to the place on the page from where you last clicked.
    In contrast, I have a total aversion to your new e-version – portrait newspaper into landscape laptop just won’t fit! I won’t be reading it. And I predict that you will lose readers as a result.
    The rest of your website is fantastic, keep it up and drop the epaper idea.

    p.s. I seem to remember the early days of Ireland.com when one had to subscribe and pay for reading the news – it didn’t work then, why would it work now?

    Comment by Landscape Ann
    59.
    March 22, 2010
    11:49 am

    Any chance of giving us back a “today’s paper” section for subscribers? It’s very difficult to use the epaper on a netbook or small laptop, also having a browse through the today’s paper section was a lot more “office friendly” than the new e-paper format! The e-paper is nifty, but only with a very large screen. Also there’s no weekend edition?

    Comment by Doug
    60.
    March 22, 2010
    10:36 pm

    Echoing the comments of Maureen (20) and C Haris (51). I used to pay the online subscription, but IT stopped this sometime last year. I don’t recall that I got a refund of the ‘unused’ subscription balance. Will that be available to try out the new paid service without additional cost?

    Comment by paddy griffin
    61.
    March 23, 2010
    1:38 am

    I’ll just say it: from the point of view of usability and aesthetics, that e-paper is *atrociously* designed – kitchen sink right click menus, ungainly navigation, way too much chrome. hard to get a hold of as a user even on a high resolution 15″ laptop..

    it’s just godawful. you couldn’t expect anyone to pay for that. try the NY times reader maybe. Anything but what’s going on there.

    Comment by Aindreas
    62.
    March 24, 2010
    10:43 am

    I think people are missing the point, I too don’t like the ePaper, it would only be of use to me if I wanted to see the ads in the IT or to see the back page. But with a little but of re-adjustment, its still possible to see all the content. News\Ireland has Irish news from todays paper, News\World world news, etc etc..

    It’ll probably only be a matter of time before a 3rd party sets up a “todays’s paper” page with all the links on the one page again.

    I’ll still be reading the IT, but agree with other posters, ePaper is retrograde step, too heavy and clunky, I don’t want to be reading pdf documents in a browser!

    Comment by Richard
    63.
    March 24, 2010
    2:50 pm

    Agree with most of the comments here.

    I paid the subscription years ago, when it was offered. I wouldn’t mind too much paying it again – for a news site that is easy to navigate and find the news stories of the day, not mixed up with previous day’s stories.

    If the site remains like it is, I will not pay a cent. Before Paddy’s day I spent all my lunch reading the Irish times online, now I spend about 15 minutes. It’s just too messy.

    Comment by Anthony
    64.
    March 25, 2010
    12:35 pm

    Newspaper owners have dealt with the internet very poorly in general. Like how can they be surprised if sales are falling when they’re giving away their product for free on the internet? If people can get something for free rather than paying for it, it’s a bit of a no brainer.
    I doubt many will purchase this new service either, they’ll just read what’s available for free.

    Comment by Rocker
    65.
    March 26, 2010
    7:39 pm

    Slan Leat —-

    Comment by Michael
    66.
    March 27, 2010
    7:50 am

    a retrograde step charging for archives as a regular dailyreader i often wish to refer back sometimes 10 or 20 years or even longer as a buyer off and on since the 1970’s to refresh memory.

    Comment by keithcargill
    67.
    March 27, 2010
    7:23 pm

    Is it too early for a little “traffic” update from Mechanical Turk on how the e-paper is doing — or is he stuck in a traffic jam!

    Comment by wondering alice
    68.
    March 29, 2010
    1:52 pm

    ‘Todays paper’-was simple to use and free but I can’t see people paying to manipulate such an unwieldy product as the e-paper. Only people abroad and techno snobs at home who love having a complicated relationship with their laptop maybe. Much easier just to buy the print version.

    By the way Hugh it’s the first time I’ve seen the word ‘nifty’ in the Irish Times.

    Comment by Greg
    69.
    March 29, 2010
    7:40 pm

    I’m the same as Anthony in that I paid the subscription and would pay it again for a “Todays Paper” type experience.

    I used to read it every day on my blackberry while waiting for my train and the text only experience worked very well.

    Thank you for the link to the Indo, a paper which I never previously read, but its my only choice to get Irish news.
    http://www.independent.ie/day-in-page/

    Also (and again like Anthony) If the site remains like it is, I will not pay a cent. I’ve already stopped reading the Examiner as their online product is similarly confusing.

    All that happens is that I get out of the habit or reading newspapers at a specific time in the day and end up not visiting you at all.

    Take a look at this format, which while not perfect you can see what they are trying to do
    http://www.netvibes.com/elpais

    I want Todays Paper + subscription or a Net Vibes type aggregator experience. But the epaper thing is rubbish.

    Comment by joehas
    70.
    April 17, 2010
    8:57 am

    I’ve just subbed up a month’s worth of access. This is an excellent service I can tell already. The very fact you can get all the images normally only available in the dead tree version and it’s in that broadsheet format that means the eye can course up and down and across and diagonally, surfing in a way that can never be done on your traditional site but, which I missed all those years I had to rely on same (invaluable) traditional site because the I.T. isn’t sold in Asia. Excellent effort from what I’ve seen so far. Contents seems v. good and like the way you can either read the orig. newsprint layout or click to an article to bring it up in a more webby version. Good luck with this I’ve a feeling I’ll be taking out a year’s sub presently.

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